The Puro Thread

[FedEx227]

Also, Yujiro carried the KoPW match. He was great. Very underrated.

Agreed. I wanted to bring that up but yet again I left the match thinking man Yujiro should get this title shot. Great character and really controlled and stood out in this match.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Agreed. I wanted to bring that up but yet again I left the match thinking man Yujiro should get this title shot. Great character and really controlled and stood out in this match.

I woudln't headline Dome with Yujio, but he had one hell of a title match against Tanahashi last year. He's really rounded out his gimmick lately as well. He's good. This roster is pretty amazing, rivaling some of the best ever.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

NJPW, "ROAD TO POWER STRUGGLE", 2013.10.25
Tokyo Korakuen Hall

http://www.ustream.tv/njpw - $15

01. Super Jr. Tag Tournament - First Round: KUSHIDA & Yohei Komatsu vs BUSHI & Valiente
02. Super Jr. Tag Tournament - First Round: Baretta & Brian Kendrick vs The Young Bucks (Nick & Matt Jackson)
03. Super Jr. Tag Tournament - First Round: Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Tiger Mask vs The World Class Tag Team (Jado & Gedo)
04. Super Jr. Tag Tournament - First Round: Forever Hooligans (Alex Koslov & Rocky Romero) vs Suzuki-gun (TAKA Michinoku & Taichi)
05. Special Singles Match: Sho Tanaka vs Minoru Suzuki
06. Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Captain New Japan vs Manabu Nakanishi & Tomoaki Honma
07. Hiroshi Tanahashi, Yuji Nagata & Togi Makabe vs CHAOS (Tomohiro Ishii, Takashi Iizuka & Toru Yano)
08. Kota Ibushi & Tetsuya Naito vs The Complete Players (Yujiro Takahashi & Masato Tanaka)
09. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura & YOSHI-HASHI) vs BULLET CLUB (Prince Devitt, Karl Anderson & Bad Luck Fale)

NJPW, "POWER STRUGGLE", 2013.11.09
Osaka BODYMAKER Colosseum

. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Kazuchika Okada (c) Karl Anderson
. IWGP Intercontinental Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Minoru Suzuki
. NEVER Openweight Title & Tokyo Dome IWGP Contendership: Tetsuya Naito (c) vs Masato Tanaka
. Also participating; Kota Ibushi & Laughter7 (Kazushi Sakuraba & Katsuyori Shibata)
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Welp, Suzuki is going to murder the young lion. Old school squash, can't wait.

Also, match 8 looks fantastic.

I love that they mix in some young lions on these smaller shows. Also the themes are a nice hook. Last time they had elimination 8-man tags that were loads of fun, now the Super Junior tag tournament.

 

[FedEx227]

I woudln't headline Dome with Yujio, but he had one hell of a title match against Tanahashi last year. He's really rounded out his gimmick lately as well. He's good. This roster is pretty amazing, rivaling some of the best ever.

Well no I'm not saying he should but that my perception is if this is a number one contenders match I hope Yujiro wins. Of course I don't want him to main event but I can't help but think he's a better all around performer.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Mike Sydal is working NEX shows (Dragon Gate developmental) & openers:

10/13/2013 Aichi, Nagoya Telepia Hall - 550 Attendance
0. Ryotsu Shimizu (5:00 Time Limit Draw) Mike Sydal
1. Ryo "Jimmy" Saito, Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!{W} (9:21 Backslide from Heaven) Masaaki Mochizuki, Gamma{L}
2. Uhaa Nation (4:45 No Contest) Mondai Ryu
3. YAMATO{W}, Kzy (12:18 Gallaria) CIBA{L}, The Former Super Shenlong III: Yosuke Watanabe
4. T-Hawk{W}, Eita, U-T (15:19 Night Ride) Jimmy Susumu{L}, Jimmy Kagetora, Mr. Quu Quu Tanizaki Naoki Toyonaka Dolphin
5. Masato Yoshino, Akira Tozawa, Uhaa Nation{W}, Shingo Takagi (18:02 Uhaa Combination) BxB Hulk, Naruki Doi, Cyber Kong, Mondai Ryu{L}

10/15/2013 Dragon Gate Arena ~ Dragon Gate NEX 111
1. The Former Super Shenlong III: Yosuke Watanabe (7:24 Sakauchi) Chihiro Tominaga
2. CIBA (6:23 School Boy) Mike Sydal
3. T-Hawk (6:03 Rojo) Ryotsu Shimizu
4. Eita{W}, U-T (13:27 Numero Uno) Kzy, Mondai Ryu{L}

10/19/2013 Shizuoka, Shimizu Marine Building
0. Mr. Quu Quu Tanizaki Naoki Toyonaka Dolphin vs. U-T
1. T-Hawk, Eita vs. Akira Tozawa, Mike Sydal
2. Ryo "Jimmy" Saito vs. Hollywood Stalker Ichikawa
3. YAMATO vs. Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!
4. Masaaki Mochizuki, Don Fujii vs. Jimmy Susumu, Jimmy Kagetora
5. Masato Yoshino, Shingo Takagi, Uhaa Nation vs. Naruki Doi, BxB Hulk, Cyber Kong

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Bucks are part of Bullet Club and presumably this isn't a one off.

This is great news, and exactly the jolt the junior tag division needed.

Young Bucks are headlining every house show on the next tour, in between the two Korakuen shows, which are the Super Junior Tag Tournament iPPV's.

The main events are Karl Anderson & The Bucks vs Okada & either Forever Hooligans or Gedo & Jado (they alternate each show).

So they are getting pushed from the jump.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

".....I have heard people say that if I stay in Japan that I will be a big fish in a small pond, but I do not agree. If people think Japan is a small pond, then I will rebuild the pond with my own hands and make it as large as the Pacific Ocean.”

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

As reported exclusively by VOW, the reason Rene Dupree is working PWS next weekend (vs Takaaki Wanatabe & Lance Anoai in a three way) is to scout for Wrestle-1. Dupree books the foreign talent for Muta. There are people in PWS who want to be booked in Japan.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

At the press conference on 10/13 before the Sumo Hall PPV, Tanahashi said that he believed Naito was the best worker in New Japan history. For what it’s worth, for years Naito has had the reputation among the wrestlers for being a genius inside the ring. Naito at the press conference said that he learned a lot about working from Tanahashi and Karl Anderson. He said that growing up he had three dreams, one of which he accomplished by making the roster of New Japan Pro Wrestling. He said the other two he’s yet to accomplish, which is winning the IWGP title and being in the main event at the Tokyo Dome.

just....wow.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

What a great theme. What a great man.

 

[FedEx227]

YUJIRO 4 DOME!

 

:shifty: I meant Tokyo Dome you sick fucks.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

An interesting note on Dragon Gate iPPV's

A quick note on the iPPVs- They are handled by entirely by Gaora. DG themselves actually have nothing to do with them. Gaora are making PPVs and any pro wrestling they broadcast live broadcasts on ustream and the Nico Nico Live services.

This probably explains why wwnlive doesn't carry Dragon Gate Japan shows. Gaora likely has full worldwide rights to the broadcasts. I remember being told years ago that Gaora pays Dragon Gate a shit ton of money, and Dragon Gate would be out of business or reduced to a tiny indie without it.

Gaora probably saw what a game changer iPPV turned out to be for New Japan, and hopped on board. The problem, is even though Dragon Gate has sister promotions in the U.S. & U.K., it doesn't have even close to the appeal of New Japan worldwide or in Japan. When we live tweet Dragon Gate iPPV's, it's a ghost town. The big New Japan shows have a shit ton of activity.

 

[FedEx227]

I should make a graphic for the "VOW Buzz-O-Meter 5000"

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

TAKA & Taichi will defend the IWGP Junior Titles on their own produce indie show on 11/1:

They won the IWGP Jr. Tag Team Title at Sumo Hall, and now TAKA Michinoku and Taichi are set to promote their own show under the TAKA & Taichi Kougyou (Box Office) banner on November 1st at Shin-Kiba 1st RING. And the main event will see them make their V1 defense of the tag belts against Jado & Gedo. This will be the first time Jado & Gedo, 4-time IWGP Jr. Tag Team Champions, will challenge for those belts since 12/26/10 when they lost to then champions Kota Ibushi & Kenny Omega at Sumo Hall.

TAKA & Taichi Kougyou, 11/1/13
Shin-Kiba 1st RING

- IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: TAKA Michinoku & Taichi (c) vs. Jado & Gedo

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

10/26 & 27 Card Information, New Foreign Roster Member Information

10/26/2013 Hyogo, Kobe Sambo Hall
1. Masaaki Mochizuki, Don Fujii vs. Ryo "Jimmy" Saito, Ryotsu Shimizu
2. T-Hawk, Flamita, Rocky Lobo vs. CIMA, Gamma, CIBA
3. Mr. Quu Quu Tanizaki Naoki Toyonaka Dolphin vs. U-T
4. Akira Tozawa, Anthony Nese vs. Jimmy Susumu, Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!
5. Special Singles Match: YAMATO vs. Eita
6. Masato Yoshino, Shingo Takagi, Uhaa Nation vs. Naruki Doi, BxB Hulk, Cyber Kong

10/27/2013 Okayama, Kurashiki Sanyou Heights
0. Jimmy Kagetora vs. Rocky Lobo
1. Eita, Flamita vs. Ryo "Jimmy" Saito. Jimmy Kanda
2. T-Hawk vs. Gamma
3. Uhaa Nation vs. Kzy
4. Shingo Takagi, Anthony Nese vs. Jimmy Susumu, Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!
5. YAMATO, Naruki Doi, BxB Hulk vs. Akira Tozawa, Masato Yoshino, Shachihoko BOY

Several new foreign performers will be making their debut on this series.

Anthony Nese
178cm/81kg - 28 years Old - New York City Native
A DGUSA regular, Nese has quickly risen through the American independent ranks. He will be affiliated with MONSTER EXPRESS. His trademark is the 450 Splash.

Flamita
170cm/75kg - 18 years old - Mexico City Native
A DTU regular that competes all over the Mexican independent scene. He has been affiliated with the Millenials since their formation in Mexico. He is known for his high flying.

Rocky Lobo
168cm/79kg - 18 years old - Tulancingo native
A DTU regular, he is known for his unparalleled balance on the ropes. He will be affiliated with the Millenials.
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Flamita is the dude who had the standout matches with Rich Swann & Ricochet in DTU. He's pretty advanced for 18 years old.

I know nothing about Rocky Lobo.

Remember these two for Rookie of the Year consideration next year, as they will debut in Dragon Gate after September 1 and will be eligible in 2014. Shit, as weak as this year's rookie field is, i'm tempted to vote Flamita anyway if he impresses on this tour.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If Spike TV was smart, they'd ditch TNA and bring in New Japan...maybe ask to get get a few more English Speaking Wrestlers and have an English Speaking commentating team and they'd be good to go.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Devitt, Archer, DBS, Shelton, Tama Tonga, Anderson, Fale, Shelley, Romero, Kozlov are the regulars off the top of my head who can speak English. Not a ton of great promos in that group. Just Devitt really. Archer & Anderson are OK. The rest are bad or assumed bad.

In a world where TNA is dead, I'm sure Tenay would jumo at the chance to do it.

 

[FedEx227]

Are we under the assumption that a wrestling company on American TV can't succeed unless it has a number of above-average talkers or a high percentage of English speaking stars?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Are we under the assumption that a wrestling company on American TV can't succeed unless it has a number of above-average talkers or a high percentage of English speaking stars?

A promotion needs to be able to sell to a GenPop...you can't put the entire onus on the commentators to sell the product. The talent needs to do it in some regard, IMO.

I think, the only thing holding NJPW back from being a successful promotion in the United States is a little more English into their product. English commentating team. A few high end English speaking promos. Thats really about it if they can get a TV deal.

 

[FedEx227]

I agree, I just wanted to start a dialogue to see if they'd be able to bring that gap. I think the other issue is — wrestling isn't cool. It's been destroyed to the point where people think "wrestling" is beer baths, promos and contract signings. A sport-oriented promotion may not work anymore, which is just a god damn shame.