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After watching the Canucks pretty much dominate the Hawks for the first two games, I have little doubt in my mind that they are going to win it all this year barring any more injuries.

They are just better than everyone else. A much more complete team all around. Maybe if Ian White didn't get hurt I'd say the Sharks had a chance, but with White out the Sharks aren't getting past them.
 
After watching the Canucks pretty much dominate the Hawks for the first two games, I have little doubt in my mind that they are going to win it all this year barring any more injuries.

They are just better than everyone else. A much more complete team all around. Maybe if Ian White didn't get hurt I'd say the Sharks had a chance, but with White out the Sharks aren't getting past them (assuming the Sharks even get the chance to meet them).

They just look to be playing faster and more physical than everyone else. Washington has looked pretty good as well. It'll be fun to see what happens because anything can happen but if I had to put money on it I'd say Nucks/Washington final with Vancouver winning.
 
Tailback U said:
After watching the Canucks pretty much dominate the Hawks for the first two games, I have little doubt in my mind that they are going to win it all this year barring any more injuries.

They are just better than everyone else. A much more complete team all around. Maybe if Ian White didn't get hurt I'd say the Sharks had a chance, but with White out the Sharks aren't getting past them.
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Ian White was not going to change that fact. I've been saying it for awhile, Vancouver is just anothe giant this year then years before, and if I put my money on any team, any #1 overall team to win, it would be Vancouver. Just crazy depth, as shown in both game 1 and 2, as anyone can score, Roberto is playing amazing and the defence is tops in the league easily.

This years cup is Vancouvers to lose. You can go up and down every team in the playoffs and say "they are missing this, they are weak here." Vancouver was what before the playoffs? A third line centre, which looking now, actually is filled by Lapiere who is doing good.

Now it is only 2 games in, and Vancouver has that choke effect always on their side. But I think mentally, playing Chicago in round one was what they needed, and probably the worst thing for any other team in the West. Once they beat them, all the talk about not getting by is done. They will most likely play Nashville or Anaheim if an upset doesn't happen in the other two, and I don't see any way either of those two beat Vancouver right now.
 
Weve got them right where we want them... :redsmug:

No but seriously, i disagree with the dominating part. I agree, this year Vancouver is better no doubt. But I think them dominating is a bit much. I think Chicago is playing awful right now. How many more times are they going to keep crashing the D forward letting Vancouver have odd man rushes? I mean, at this rate, Vancouver is promised at least 2 breakaways, and 3 2v1's.

That combined with nobody shooting, it took them almost 8 minutes last night just to get a damn shot off. Kane is getting pwned right now, their puck possession is shitty...Dont know how many times the simplest passes are being mis-handled.

And then there's Luongo, who showed last night, let one in, and more will follow. Maybe going home will be huge, but it wont matter if they dont start playing better.
 
With Kane, the issue is they play him so much and you know he is the go to guy, so they are just going to cover him and not let him shoot. The Hawks lack of depth like last year will hurt the top line because they are expected to do more, and well, you just make sure you have the right people out there when they are on the ice to stop them.

You can go back and forth on are they dominating or not depending on who is talking. I think they are. They showed a lot of it last night. Does that mean goals won't go in? Well, no, this is the NHL it happens. But there play is greatly overplaying the Hawks right now. They are getting their chances, but with Louongo standing on his head in game 1, and being solid in game 2, they need to find more ways.

You cannot play bad against this team and expect to get a victory. I think people have overhyped Chicago this season. Got to still remember they just made it into the playoffs. From Cup champions to final day playoff spot is a big fall and you are seeing it now.

The Hawks need someone like Hossa or Frolik or some of their blue liners to start putting in some goals and take the pressure of Kane, Toews and Sharp. Or maybe its time to shift the lines up and get those three apart. Spread the wealth so-to-say and see what happens. Because double/triple shifting Toews/Kane/Sharp is not working. Between the three of them, they have 1 assist.
 
Cant disagree with anything you said really. The lack of depth is really showing. They had to work so hard just to get in. They are getting pounded. I honestly believe the Hawks are a year too early with this team. With all the team turnover, and all the kids, them them just getting in was a gift. So if the can somehow protect home ice, I can see them losing the series 4-2 and ill be ok with that.
 
Ravin said:
Ian White was not going to change that fact. I've been saying it for awhile, Vancouver is just anothe giant this year then years before, and if I put my money on any team, any #1 overall team to win, it would be Vancouver. Just crazy depth, as shown in both game 1 and 2, as anyone can score, Roberto is playing amazing and the defence is tops in the league easily.

This years cup is Vancouvers to lose. You can go up and down every team in the playoffs and say "they are missing this, they are weak here." Vancouver was what before the playoffs? A third line centre, which looking now, actually is filled by Lapiere who is doing good.

Now it is only 2 games in, and Vancouver has that choke effect always on their side. But I think mentally, playing Chicago in round one was what they needed, and probably the worst thing for any other team in the West. Once they beat them, all the talk about not getting by is done. They will most likely play Nashville or Anaheim if an upset doesn't happen in the other two, and I don't see any way either of those two beat Vancouver right now.
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Yeah I agree. I think the Sharks can give them a series as they definitely have as much as talent and depth but losing Ian White hurts a lot more than you think. He was easily the Sharks 2nd or 3rd best Dman. The Sharks really don't have any glaring weaknesses except for the 5th and 6th DMen now who are Wallin and Braun.

Wallin is just awful. I really like Braun but he is a rookie. Either way, Canucks should and will be favored in every series, but we have seen upsets happen before.

As for Chicago, they just aren't a complete team right now and they aren't clicking. They are young and fresh off a Stanley Cup, so I question how badly they really want it. Vancouver is playing like they want it and they think they can get it, Chicago isn't right now. Maybe going back home will change that.
 
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Yeah I agree. I think the Sharks can give them a series as they definitely have as much as talent and depth but losing Ian White hurts a lot more than you think. He was easily the Sharks 2nd or 3rd best Dman. The Sharks really don't have any glaring weaknesses except for the 5th and 6th DMen now who are Wallin and Braun.

Wallin is just awful. I really like Braun but he is a rookie. Either way, Canucks should and will be favored in every series, but we have seen upsets happen before.

As for Chicago, they just aren't a complete team right now and they aren't clicking. They are young and fresh off a Stanley Cup, so I question how badly they really want it. Vancouver is playing like they want it and they think they can get it, Chicago isn't right now. Maybe going back home will change that.
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Eh the only thing I can say about white helping is because the sharks dman core isn't necessarily the strongest anyways. The guy has been shipped all over the league (4 teams in 2 years I think). Undersized and not too strong in his own end. Pretty good at getting the puck out though and does show some offensive skill.

Its kinda wierd some leaf fans loved him and I really didn't care for him and his constant turnovers.
 
PEYMAN18 said:
Haven't heard anybody talk about them being Stanley Cup contenders really.

Sleeping isn't the right word. Maybe flying under the radar based on Detroit's standards :ionno:
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Thats because there are 4 teams above them this year that are cup contenders as well.
 
leaffan said:
Eh the only thing I can say about white helping is because the sharks dman core isn't necessarily the strongest anyways. The guy has been shipped all over the league (4 teams in 2 years I think). Undersized and not too strong in his own end. Pretty good at getting the puck out though and does show some offensive skill.

Its kinda wierd some leaf fans loved him and I really didn't care for him and his constant turnovers.
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Well it depends on who he is playing with and how good the rest of the D is. The Sharks D is already a weak spot. Boyle and Vlasic are both mobile and good DMen. Murray is physical but slow and immobile. Wallin is shitty, slow, soft, dumb as shit and a faggot.

Demers is decent but lacks experience and smarts. White just complemented the defense really well because he is mobile, has the 2nd best shot from the point out of the defense, plays smart and isn't soft.

Now the Sharks are going to be forced to put Wallin and Braun or Huskins out there. It really depends on how well Braun plays.
 
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