The Trade Deadline Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

It's July, so trade talks will be heating up. So far, we have had one move that I would classify as the start of deadline season:

Rockies Get: 2B Mark Ellis

A's Get: P Bruce Billings

Ellis, the definition of "average" in almost every way, became expendable when Jamile Weeks was called up and took his job. I thought it was odd that the Rockies seeked out a 2B, considering they have J. Herrera wasting away on the bench and Ellis turns a million years old this year. Ellis is playing every day.

I don't know anything about Billings, but getting a sack of balls in return for Ellis is a win for Oakland.

 

[Goober]

Brewers better trade for a SS. Reyes is out of the question, but I'd like to see Jamey Carroll traded to Milwaukee.

 

[Leftwich]

Orioles won't be contenders this year so if i'm them, i'm shipping out Luke Scott to someone who needs a bat and possibly Jeremy Guthrie although we're already stretched desperately thin at starting pitching. Don't really care what we get in turn but possibly prospects.

 

[Woy]

Bullpen help. Bullpen help. Bullpen help.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Teams have called the Reds for Ramon Hernandez, but I cant see them trading him even if they fall out of the race, because he would be a Type A FA based on his numbers the last two years, so the FA compensation would likely be better than what anyone would give up in a trade.

 

[FirstTimer]

I'm a firm believer if the Cubs can trade Carlos Marmol and get some good prospects back they should do so.

I doubt the Cubs can and will do much at the deadline. There are rumors they are looking to trade A-Ram...his option complicates things.

The Red Sox seem pretty good with where they are at and I doubt we see any moves out of them.

 

[NAHSTE]

Only position the Braves can upgrade is CF, but with our wealth of young pitching talent I wouldn't be surprised to see us make a few crazy offers for Kemp, Rasmus or Bourn.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Repotedly the Reds asked about Ludwick, which I don't understand. He's no better than the three LF's they already have.

 

[EmpireWF]

The Mets are in a strange spot. Obviously, it would take a miracle for them to get back in the division race (over 10 games out today) but they're anything but totally out of the wild card (6.5 games out today I think).

At the same time, I don't expect them to add any "big" piece at all via trade. If anything, they will be more inclined to sell on Beltran and even K-Rod if someone is willing.

Plus, they're getting David Wright back within the next 2-3 weeks so you figure the line-up will improve (they'll even have a logjam in the infield causing either Turner or Tejada to the bench). I know you can't count on him for this year but it's possible Johan Santana returns by the end of August.

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It's tough though because if by the middle of July, the Mets are 4-6 games out of the Wild Card, they have to decide to go with what they got or another option.

Beltran's been the clubs #2 player all year behind Reyes, doesn't make sense in trading him unless you get back a starter who can help. Even though Beltran walks at the end of the year and they get nothing back, how can you trade that production?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Mets will move Beltran by the deadline, I'm nearly certain.

Marlins will move Leo Nunez by the deadline, I'm nearly certain, and considering he's the top RP that will be on the market, he should garner something decent.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Mets shouldn't do anything if they are still within 5 or so of the WC. Make a run, and let these guys walk. Take the compensation.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Mets will move Beltran by the deadline, I'm nearly certain.

Marlins will move Leo Nunez by the deadline, I'm nearly certain, and considering he's the top RP that will be on the market, he should garner something decent.

Heath Bell? KRod? Mike Adams?

There will be a few quaility guys.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Heath Bell? KRod? Mike Adams?

There will be a few quaility guys.

I don't know if K-Rod will get traded (I don't think he will, but I think he should) and I'm certain Adams won't. Bell might, but not sure if teams will pay through the nose for him, as the asking price right now is high high high.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The Mets shouldn't do anything if they are still within 5 or so of the WC. Make a run, and let these guys walk. Take the compensation.

I'd trade everything, Reyes included.

 

[EmpireWF]

Mets will move Beltran by the deadline, I'm nearly certain.

He'll be dealt if the Mets are completely out of the WC race (7+ games out). Otherwise, how can you deal your 2nd best hitter?

The Mets shouldn't do anything if they are still within 5 or so of the WC. Make a run, and let these guys walk. Take the compensation.

I agree.

Only thing is, they get no compensation off Beltran walking. They can't offer him arbitration.

I'd trade everything, Reyes included.

That'd be beyond ridiculous.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

He'll be dealt if the Mets are completely out of the WC race (7+ games out). Otherwise, how can you deal your 2nd best hitter?



I agree.

Only thing is, they get no compensation off Beltran walking. They can't offer him arbitration.



That'd be beyond ridiculous.

False...time to scrap the whole thing and start over.

 

[EmpireWF]

False...time to scrap the whole thing and start over.

Don't think your owner would enjoy gutting the team and having 100 people in the ballpark.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Don't think your owner would enjoy gutting the team and having 100 people in the ballpark.

Better than having a huge payroll only to have 200 people in the ballpark.

Scrap it, start over. The team is a monster mess with a shit load of dead weight money...

They have an offer out to Reyes, but Reyes is determined to get Crawford money...I would rather trade him as a rental, get something in return, and then go and bid on him on the open market, especially if he doesn't come to terms soon.

Johan Santana, Carlos Beltran, Jason Bay, K-Rod...nearly 60M between them and Reyes and with Reyes' impending contract explosion...a whole lot of money going to nobody.

Get what you can, scrap the whole damn mission.

 

[EmpireWF]

Better than having a huge payroll only to have 200 people in the ballpark.

Scrap it, start over. The team is a monster mess with a shit load of dead weight money...

They have an offer out to Reyes, but Reyes is determined to get Crawford money...I would rather trade him as a rental, get something in return, and then go and bid on him on the open market, especially if he doesn't come to terms soon.

Johan Santana, Carlos Beltran, Jason Bay, K-Rod...nearly 60M between them and Reyes and with Reyes' impending contract explosion...a whole lot of money going to nobody.

Get what you can, scrap the whole damn mission.

And if they're 5 games out of the wild card? No way you can scrap it. Potential playoff run puts asses in the seats and if they strike gold and make it, that's an extra whatever million dollars in revenue.

Besides, they can't get good enough value for Reyes to deal him.

If they can get rid of K-Rod, by all means trade his ass and get out from the $17 million he'll likely get next year.

If the team is in contention in 2-3 weeks, the only guy I'd okay trading is K-Rod.

 

[RyanLeaf16]

Teams have called the Reds for Ramon Hernandez, but I cant see them trading him even if they fall out of the race, because he would be a Type A FA based on his numbers the last two years, so the FA compensation would likely be better than what anyone would give up in a trade.

Rays are supposedly interested in Hernandez. Maddon really likes him and he talked him up during our series with Cincinnati. If they were to acquire Hernandez, then I think the team DFAs Shoppach.

Also look for AF to try and add a lefty arm for the 'pen, and of course, the trading of BJ Upton which I firmly believe will happen this year. I also wouldn't be shocked to see Farnsworth dealt as well.