The Trade Deadline Thread

[Chrispy]

Ken Rosenthal
Wandy staying . . . for now. #Astros #tradedeadline #MLB

Jon Heyman
#astros need to get to $60M. they can try to move wandy later.

 

[Mogriffjr]

I'd laugh if Heath Bell jinxed himself last night, basically saying on twitter he was going to be on a contender...Bell needs to shut his trap sometimes...

 

[EmpireWF]

I'd laugh if Heath Bell jinxed himself last night, basically saying on twitter he was going to be on a contender...Bell needs to shut his trap sometimes...

Everyone figured it was 100% he would be moved.

 

[Sharkweather]

In Bell trade talks, Padres wanted two top prospects--Wieland/Erlin-- for Bell. Rangers asked then for P with higher value, Adams

Guess Adams has more value because of his contract.

Also..

Have to believe there's a strong chance Heath Bell will sign an extension with the Padres soon. He wants to stay, badly.

 

[NAHSTE]

 

[Chrispy]

Joel Sherman
This is the 1st time since 1999 #Yankees did not make a July trade. They will hope for repeat: They won it all that yr

:smug:

 

[Sharkweather]

Joel Sherman
This is the 1st time since 1999 #Yankees did not make a July trade. They will hope for repeat: They won it all that yr

:smug:

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
NYY comfortable with deals not made, because prices were too high and they wanted to keep Montero,Romine,Betances,Banuelos and Nova. #trades

 

[Chrispy]

Plus there wasn't really anybody we really needed, Ubaldo maybe but their asking price was way to high.

 

[Rudi]

I have no problems with the Reds staying quiet. Although I was hoping for a trade a week or so ago, we got swept by New York and are 6.5 back. Team has a young core, will be contending for years. No reason to overpay for borderline star players. Now lets call Mesoraco up and see what he's all about!

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I have no problems with the Reds staying quiet. Although I was hoping for a trade a week or so ago, we got swept by New York and are 6.5 back. Team has a young core, will be contending for years. No reason to overpay for borderline star players. Now lets call Mesoraco up and see what he's all about!

Yeah. I would have liked to have seen something done, but at least there was no panic moves. This team was built from within and kept all of the A prospects.

Like i've been saying, they have 30 days to get within 3. This team as constructed is good enough to win if they are 3 out Sept.1, but if not, chalk it up as a down year and move on. It's a real good core, they'll be back.

 

[Sharkweather]

Anyone know anything about the Red Sox farm? Not sure how well regarded those three players the Dodgers got, but Trayvon Robinson is a nice get for Seattle.

 

[Sharkweather]

Stymied in their first attempt to acquire an often-injured starting pitcher for their rotation, the Boston Red Sox finally acquired one in Seattle Mariners left-hander Erik Bedard as part of a three-team trade that also involved the Dodgers. As a result, Boston nets Bedard, Seattle gets some long-term value, while the Los Angeles Dodgers simply rearrange deck chairs.

Bedard is mostly just fastball-curveball these days, touching 93 with good two-plane break on the curveball and missing a good number of bats with both. He has a show-me changeup but relies more on deception and fastball location to get right-handed hitters out, coming somewhat across his body to add to the deception. He's better than the fifth starter options available to Boston even when everyone's healthy. He's probably worth a solid win or two over the rest of the season and can provide some insurance if any of their top four arms has to miss a playoff start.

Josh Fields is a throw-in who has never matched his college (he was a closer at Georgia) velocity, mostly around 90-93 now with a fringy curveball and no clue where anything is going, with 72 walks in 101 career minor-league innings and 13 walks in 13 innings this year in Triple A.

The Mariners get Chiang Chih-Hsien, a potential 4th/5th outfielder who is having a huge year in Double-A Portland but doesn't have the bat speed or raw power to match the stats he's put up in 2/3 of a season in AA. They also receive outfielder Trayvon Robinson, still somewhat raw at 23 with the athleticism to play center but an arm that limits him to left. The switch-hitting Robinson has above-average power from both sides of the plate, although his swing is better from the right side (particularly for generating power from his lower half) and so is his pitch recognition. His ceiling is an above-average regular in left because of his potential to hit for power and show plus range, although he'll have to work on his contact rates and ability to adjust to offspeed stuff. For two months of Bedard and a castoff relief prospect, Robinson's a good return, just not a sure thing yet.

The Dodgers get ... I'm not really sure what they get. Tim Federowicz is a catch-and-throw specialist who isn't likely to produce enough at the plate to be an average regular, but is plus across the board behind the plate (including a career 34-percent caught-stealing rate) and is no worse than a good backup in the majors. Stephen Fife probably profiles as a right-handed reliever rather than a starter because he lacks the out pitch to start; he'll touch 95 as a starter with a fringe-average curveball. Juan Rodriguez has a plus fastball, no average second pitch, and below-average command and control -- a nice arm to add to your system but a reliever at best and not a high-probability guy either. Unless Robinson was somehow burning a hole in their pockets, this doesn't make a ton of sense to me, as they didn't get any prospect as good as he is in the exchange.

 

[Sharkweather]

Projecting the acquisitions using the ZiPS projection system

Insider article, http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/6822338/analyzing-all-big-mlb-trade-deadline-deals

Michael Bourn: .277/.348/.366, 17 SB
Carlos Beltran: .279/.370/.476
Ubaldo Jimenez: 6-2, 3.09
Doug Fister: 4-3, 4.05
Erik Bedard: 3-2, 3.58
Hunter Pence: .291/.340/.469
Edwin Jackson: 4-3, 3.78
Jerry Hairston Jr.: .270/.333/.399
Kosuke Fukudome: .245/.354/.368
Rafael Furcal: .260/.331/.368
Ryan Ludwick: .267/.331/.451
Orlando Cabrera: .265/.302/.353
Jason Marquis: 3-3, 4.41
Derrek Lee: .258/.331/.418

 

[Mogriffjr]

Braves #Winning

what website is that from? wanna take a look on it...

nevermind, found it

 

[Sharkweather]

what website is that from? wanna take a look on it...

http://www.fangraphs.com/

 

[Slateman]

Yea. Great job Rizzo! Keep on trying to trade for a concussion injured Denard Span and a team that is out to exact revenge for trading Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps

Ugh ... Nats could have beat that package ... ugh

 

[nflman2033]

Yeah the Reds silence isn't a big deal, I mean I honestly don't think they are in position to be buyers this year, and if they are, I would want something that will help in the long term, and not over pay for mid level guys. I would have probably rather see them be sellers this year, maybe move Cordero, Arroyo, or Rolen to get some prospects since they really don't factor much into the future anyway.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yeah the Reds silence isn't a big deal, I mean I honestly don't think they are in position to be buyers this year, and if they are, I would want something that will help in the long term, and not over pay for mid level guys. I would have probably rather see them be sellers this year, maybe move Cordero, Arroyo, or Rolen to get some prospects since they really don't factor much into the future anyway.

Can't really move Arroyo, and nobody would want Rolen (who i'm also positive has a no trade that he wont budge on anyway since he wants to retire here).

I think they didn't move Cordero or Hernandez because at the end of the day Dusty & Jocketty decided that finishing up the year going all out and not throwing the towel was more advantageous than picking up a few C level prospects.

As you said, it's not a big deal, you never know. Get within 3 by Sept.1 and lets see what happens.

 

[Rudi]

Apparently there was a possibility of the Reds and Blue Jays swapping Votto and Bautista. Very interesting

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/

 

[Obst]

Apparently there was a possibility of the Reds and Blue Jays swapping Votto and Bautista. Very interesting

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/

This reminds me of the Howard for Pujols rumors around 2 years ago