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There is another who can defeat Lesnar...

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SHOGUN

4 WR 1 RB 0 TE. 24/7/365.
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Cock Chestnar is big and athletic and that's nice and all, but Minowaman, who is a paltry 5-9, 196, feasts on fighters much bigger than himself. Dude is an MMA legend. Minowaman will dropkick Lesnar and slap on a heelhook before we he even knows what happens! And before you think I'm crazy, check his record vs. HWs...

W- Bob Sapp
W- Errol Zimmerman
W- Don Frye
W- Bum Chan Kang
L- Big Zulu
L- Min Soo Kim
W- Mike Plotcheck
W- Butterbean
L- CroCop
W- Giant Silva
W- Dave Legeno
W- Kimo
W- Yvel
W- Leko
L- Semmy
D- Fulton

BONUS: Epic HL

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I love Minowaman, one of my favorites. But Brock would smash him to bits.

For all his shocking upsets of larger men, he also loses to scrubs on a regular basis.

Minowaman is awesome, but no.
 
There are a few guys I would bet to beat brock and a bunch of others that would be a pick em fight at this point

Guys who would beat him:

Fedor - The man, the myth, the legend
Overeem - Bad style match up for Brock, K1 level striking, ADCC level ground game, could KO or sub Brock
Barnett - Big strong, good chin, good subs, Barnett would go for toe hold after toe hold
Randy - Had a good game plan in the first fight, if Brock didnt grab the fence Randy would have put him on his back

Guys who would give him a good go:

Carwin - Good wrestling base, whoever lands the big right wins the fight
Cain - Younger, has great wrestling, could wear down Brock in 5 round fight
Brett Rogers - Never been on his back, would throw some lethal loopy punches and really test Brock chin
Nog: If he is healed up and not in Zombie mode he could check the big man with a sub
Aleks: Stop a couple takedowns and he is tagging Lesner with good boxing hands
Cro Cop: Same as Aleks but LHK
 
LOL.. how can you flat out say Randy would beat Brock when Brock already beat dude? At best I put him in the "will give him a good go" list.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
LOL.. how can you flat out say Randy would beat Brock when Brock already beat dude? At best I put him in the "will give him a good go" list.
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just like everyone said that Brock would flat out beat Mir after losing to Mir

I seen a lot in that fight that showed me Randy could and would beat Brock, maybe he should be in the next catergory, but I got Randy

plus Brock should have got a point taken for the blantant cheating

word is randy has a picture of brock on his mirror just like rocky had drago
 
But Randy wasnt dominating Brock the way Brock was doing to Mir in the first fight. I dont think its really comparable. Even if Randy was fighting him well, he still got his shit rocked.. it wasnt like Brock caught him in a sub.. hes not going to lose his "lunch pale" hands. I guess people are going to continue to write Brock off until he knocks out the whole damn division.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
But Randy wasnt dominating Brock the way Brock was doing to Mir in the first fight. I dont think its really comparable. Even if Randy was fighting him well, he still got his shit rocked.. it wasnt like Brock caught him in a sub.. hes not going to lose his "lunch pale" hands. I guess people are going to continue to write Brock off until he knocks out the whole damn division.
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it was 60 seconds of spazzing, there is much more you can pull from the randy/brock fight than the Mir/Brock first fight

Brock didnt even fight like he did the first fight so to say he would win based of that fight is crazy, if he fought the same way he would have probably lost again, the reason he won this fight was he took his time and was in control
 
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Liquidrob said:
it was 60 seconds of spazzing, there is much more you can pull from the randy/brock fight than the Mir/Brock first fight

Brock didnt even fight like he did the first fight so to say he would win based of that fight is crazy, if he fought the same way he would have probably lost again, the reason he won this fight was he took his time and was in control
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He implemented the exact same game plan, he was just more effective in it this time.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
He implemented the exact same game plan, he was just more effective in it this time.
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no, his first gamplan was no gameplan, takedown and hammer fist like I'm putting out a fire, lol

this one was to stay tight, control and pick his shots, but staying tight was the key, unlike the first time where he gave space the entire time
 
Liquidrob said:
no, his first gamplan was no gameplan, takedown and hammer fist like I'm putting out a fire, lol

this one was to stay tight, control and pick his shots, but staying tight was the key, unlike the first time where he gave space the entire time
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Thats not even fair to say.. he came in with no game plan? He just got overly excited when he bullrushed him and started reigning down blows all over his grill. You could see his adrenaline was pumping and he was kind of all over the place. He did the same thing this time.. he was just smart in doing it.. staying tight and avoding subs like you said. Still the same strategy tho.. get him to the ground and pound his face.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
Thats not even fair to say.. he came in with no game plan? He just got overly excited when he bullrushed him and started reigning down blows all over his grill. You could see his adrenaline was pumping and he was kind of all over the place. He did the same thing this time.. he was just smart in doing it.. staying tight and avoding subs like you said. Still the same strategy tho.. get him to the ground and pound his face.
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thats my point, he never stayed tight the first fight, he left so much space a couple times, on the armbar attempt and the leg lock, so from that first fight you could not pull anything from except that brock is big, stong and fast, he showed zero technique

watching randy/brock for a couple rounds is much different than brock/mir I where brock looked like a spaz, he never did anything remotley like he did in the 2nd fight and the first fight was 90 seconds long
 
Liquidrob said:
it was 60 seconds of spazzing, there is much more you can pull from the randy/brock fight than the Mir/Brock first fight

Brock didnt even fight like he did the first fight so to say he would win based of that fight is crazy, if he fought the same way he would have probably lost again, the reason he won this fight was he took his time and was in control
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That or it wasn't Brock's first fight in the Octagon anymore and the dude is starting to develop skill and becoming better?
 
Vinsane said:
That or it wasn't Brock's first fight in the Octagon anymore and the dude is starting to develop skill and becoming better?
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what are you saying? I'm talking about the info you could pull from the first fight, of course you are better in your 5th fight than your 2nd
 
Lol... I had to go back and watch this fight.. the way you and Rosetta talk about it it makes me feel like I watched a completely different fight than you guys. Evidently, thats not the case.. it is exactly how I remember it. Other than the take down that actually never happened (say what you will abt grabbing the cage), what is there to believe that Randy would flat out beat Brock the 2nd time? This is in no way comparable to the first Mir-Lesnar fight.. not by a long shot. And Lol @ Rosetta for always saying "Randy was winning the fight before he got caught".. no he wasnt. Brock definitely won the 1st round.. the 2nd round MAYBE goes to Randy but he gets GTFO before the judges even have to decide, so its a moot point. You guys need to go back and watch this shit again cause you're either overrating Randy's performance and just flat out love to discredit Brock. Up to you..

http://regretfulmorning.com/2008/11/randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar/

Randy may have squeeked out a decision if it went the same way it was going.. but he got KTFO. The same shit would happen to him the next time.. to say he'd flat out beat him is pretty dumb. Putting him in the "will give him a go" list much more reasonable.
 
Lol.. come on Rob.. bring me something better than that. Theres no good reason to say it other than flat out underrating Brock. Face it man.. dude is a force.. id expect him to KO Randy a 2nd time if they fought again.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
Lol.. come on Rob.. bring me something better than that. Theres no good reason to say it other than flat out underrating Brock. Face it man.. dude is a force.. id expect him to KO Randy a 2nd time if they fought again.
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of course he is a force, but he is 50 lbs heavier than randy and randy was putting him in the cage, got out from under brock and would have had brock done besides the cheating and randy is 48

brock has fought 2 guys with zero TD defense in Mir and Heath, Randy really showed a lot in that fight IMO

Of course Brock has a chance of beating the majority of the HWs out there, he is a freak a HW, but he has fought a sub artist twice and got subbed once, rode heath for a decision and randy was doing really well until he put him down

like I said before this fight, brock and mir can fight 10 times and it doesnt prove much, 1 guy smashes, the other guys subs, thats how it would always play out, Lesner did nothing that Ian and Vera did to Mir

I'd like to see Brock fight Carwin, Cain or Randy again
 
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