There is another who can defeat Lesnar...

[Liquidrob]

oh and throw Genki Sudo on the list, butterbean is bigger than brock

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

of course he is a force, but he is 50 lbs heavier than randy and randy was putting him in the cage, got out from under brock and would have had brock done besides the cheating and randy is 48

brock has fought 2 guys with zero TD defense in Mir and Heath, Randy really showed a lot in that fight IMO

Of course Brock has a chance of beating the majority of the HWs out there, he is a freak a HW, but he has fought a sub artist twice and got subbed once, rode heath for a decision and randy was doing really well until he put him down

like I said before this fight, brock and mir can fight 10 times and it doesnt prove much, 1 guy smashes, the other guys subs, thats how it would always play out, Lesner did nothing that Ian and Vera did to Mir

I'd like to see Brock fight Carwin, Cain or Randy again

Randy showed a ton of heart that we already knew he had.. but other than pushing Brock against the cage and landing a couple solid punches, theres nothing there to lead to believe he'd win a 2nd time. Even he said after the fight that Brock is just too big and just hits too hard. Its not really a knock on Randy, just more of me saying its not fair to say Randy would flat out beat Brock the 2nd time. Does he have a chance? Of course.. hes Randy Couture.. but Brock has to be the favourite in a 2nd match, no doubt.

 

[Steel Mamba]

Lol.. come on Rob.. bring me something better than that. Theres no good reason to say it other than flat out underrating Brock. Face it man.. dude is a force.. id expect him to KO Randy a 2nd time if they fought again.

Randy wins 3/5 times against Brock IMO. He's one of the few guys that can negate Brock's size/wrestling ability. He just happened to get caught in that fight, when you get hit behind the ear by a punch you didn't see coming that's what's going to happen. Overall though Randy is still the better fighter of the two.

 

[Liquidrob]

Randy showed a ton of heart that we already knew he had.. but other than pushing Brock against the cage and landing a couple solid punches, theres nothing there to lead to believe he'd win a 2nd time. Even he said after the fight that Brock is just too big and just hits too hard. Its not really a knock on Randy, just more of me saying its not fair to say Randy would flat out beat Brock the 2nd time. Does he have a chance? Of course.. hes Randy Couture.. but Brock has to be the favourite in a 2nd match, no doubt.

'if' randy could get it to the 3rd and beyond I think he wins it

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Randy wins 3/5 times against Brock IMO. He's one of the few guys that can negate Brock's size/wrestling ability. He just happened to get caught in that fight, when you get hit behind the ear by a punch you didn't see coming that's what's going to happen. Overall though Randy is still the better fighter of the two.

What makes you think he wouldnt get caught again? Are Brock's hands going to get smaller? Is he going to hit with less force.

So Randy would win 3 out of the next 4 fights against Brock then? This is what you're saying? What is Brock going to have to do to get some damn respect? I dont even think Randy himself would say he could beat Brock 3 out of 5 times..

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

'if' randy could get it to the 3rd and beyond I think he wins it

By? IMO Randy's only chance to win was by decision or sub. He wasnt KOing Brock..

 

[Liquidrob]

What makes you think he wouldnt get caught again? Are Brock's hands going to get smaller? Is he going to hit with less force.

So Randy would win 3 out of the next 4 fights against Brock then? This is what you're saying? What is Brock going to have to do to get some damn respect? I dont even think Randy himself would say he could beat Brock 3 out of 5 times..

you dont get hit in the head again, its not like every fight is the same, its called making adjustments

every punch up until that point didnt drop randy, you dont have to get hit hard every fight

randy wouldnt say that because if they fought 5 times he would be 55 by then

 

[Liquidrob]

By? IMO Randy's only chance to win was by decision or sub. He wasnt KOing Brock..

By decision or a gassed brock laying on his back or turtled taking fists to the face and side of the head

When you are gassed its much harder to defend, to think Brock has a 5 round tank at this point is crazy, he was looking winded after 2 with Randy

 

[Steel Mamba]

What makes you think he wouldnt get caught again? Are Brock's hands going to get smaller? Is he going to hit with less force.

So Randy would win 3 out of the next 4 fights against Brock then? This is what you're saying? What is Brock going to have to do to get some damn respect? I dont even think Randy himself would say he could beat Brock 3 out of 5 times..

Just because I think Randy would win doesn't mean I'm disrespecting Brock. We're talking about a UFC HOFer here so that should be no slight to Brock at all. Who says Brock is going to catch him again? It's not like he was out-striking him.

By? IMO Randy's only chance to win was by decision or sub. He wasnt KOing Brock..

He was hurting Brock with some solid shots in that fight.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Lol @ he was hurting Brock. Never does Brock show any solid evidence of being in trouble or being "rocked". Most every fighter gets hurt in a fight.. they're punching each other in the face.. that shit hurts.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I REALLY hope they fight again and Brock KOs him again.. im guessing Brock is just going to continue to be written off until he just clears out the whole heavyweight division..

I mean we got someone saying Randy would win 3/5 and Brock's already fucking won once.. to tell me Randy would beat Brock 3 out of the next 4 times IMO is preposterous.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

im a fan of minowaman and have a lot of respect for him for going out and routinely fighting guys outweighing him by a weight class or two but i think brock would smash him. i wouldnt say minowa would have zero chance cause he is very good at subs. hard me for to pick him beating brock when he has a loss against zulu...

 

[Hogle]

the only people that have a chance at putting up a fight with lesnar are shane carwin, and bobby lashley

 

[Hogle]

and on the couture vs lesnar subject, couture could not ko lesnar, and lesnar will never lose by decision since he will dominate every fight by controlling his much smaller, much less talented wrestler on the ground the whole fight. And you're saying lesnar would be gassed after 3 rounds? are you kidding he moves like a welterweight, and trains harder than almost anyone. IMO, you guys are just trying to come up with scenarios to discredit lesnar, but the fact is lesnar would knock couture out again, or at least tko, and no one here (except bob kuzzy) is giving lesnar enough credit for his size speed and strength, and the fact that he is probably the best wrestler in all of the ufc

 

[Steel Mamba]

The wrestling fans have been defending Brock like he's their first born. No one is trying to take anything away from Brock, the guy is certainly legit. Saying Randy would win 3/5 means that he's only 1 fight better, so I don't see the huge diss there.

 

[Steel Mamba]

the only people that have a chance at putting up a fight with lesnar are shane carwin, and bobby lashley

I think you're forgetting a certain someone on that list there.

and on the couture vs lesnar subject, couture could not ko lesnar, and lesnar will never lose by decision since he will dominate every fight by controlling his much smaller, much less talented wrestler on the ground the whole fight. And you're saying lesnar would be gassed after 3 rounds? are you kidding he moves like a welterweight, and trains harder than almost anyone. IMO, you guys are just trying to come up with scenarios to discredit lesnar, but the fact is lesnar would knock couture out again, or at least tko, and no one here (except bob kuzzy) is giving lesnar enough credit for his size speed and strength, and the fact that he is probably the best wrestler in all of the ufc

He works the hardest? Maybe, but what are you basing that off of? Also, he's not the best wrestler in the UFC. At least in terms of applying that wrestling ability to the MMA game.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Its not that its a diss, I just dont think its realistic..

And it honest to god has nothing to do with wrestling.. im talking without any bias here.. I actually think that everyone seems to have a bias against the guy. I could care less if Brock was from the WWE or the WWF (world wildlife foundation).. dude is just a beast.. has that swagger.. and knows how to sell a match. And did I mention that hes a flat out beast? Ive always loved Brock from his wrestling days.. and I still love him now.. but I completely doubted his abilities to do this legitimately.. I picked Randy to win that fight.. ive come to the realization that aslong as Brock fights a smart fight theres very few people that are going to beat him.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Its not that its a diss, I just dont think its realistic..

And it honest to god has nothing to do with wrestling.. im talking without any bias here.. I actually think that everyone seems to have a bias against the guy. I could care less if Brock was from the WWE or the WWF (world wildlife foundation).. dude is just a beast.. has that swagger.. and knows how to sell a match. And did I mention that hes a flat out beast? Ive always loved Brock from his wrestling days.. and I still love him now.. but I completely doubted his abilities to do this legitimately.. I picked Randy to win that fight.. ive come to the realization that aslong as Brock fights a smart fight theres very few people that are going to beat him.

and one the very few is this man

cro cop next ufc champ... book it

 

[Steel Mamba]

and one the very few is this man

cro cop next ufc champ... book it

Cro Cop via eyepoke.

 

[Hogle]

ok first of all, before ufc 100, brock lesnar was 75% successful on takedowns, and landed 86 strikes, and only 18 landed on him, so obviously he is applying that wrestling, and yes, he was an NCAA champion wrestler. Second of all, I don't see why people won't realize that first of all, couture is getting old, and isn't as good as he used to be, and second of all, that lesnar is too heavy and strong for almost everyone in the ufc to beat him, unless thay catch him with a submission. And no I'm not a fan of the WWE, I just think he's a beast and an exciting fighter... not to mention his quality post fight interviews lol