This is why I seem angry

[Steel Mamba]

I agree Mamba, Strikeforce doesnt promote or hype well, 1 reason is because they rely on Showtime to do this, thats how they work, they are a premium channel, its a different animal, so you wont see UFC type hype

but my question is why people who 'know' MMA act the way they do towards Strikeforce and the other shows that are not under the Zuffa banner

Look at the WEC, they do as bad of if not worse than Strikeforce except when they did a PPV, there last show averaged like 315,000 on a channel that is in 80 million homes, Strikeforce always averages that and peaks much higher on a channel that is only in 20 million homes and a pay channel

So why is WEC covered by the MMA media like they are gold?

It depends on what you're comparing the WEC against. The media definitely covers SF CBS and any non-challenger card far better than the typical WEC event, aside from a few of the big title fights. But, again even in the WEC their fighters are made into stars, they tell their stories, and do a great job of explaining to the media and fans what makes some of these guys so special.

I think SF needs to scrap the Challengers series entirely. Start doing more shows, and put the developing talent on the under cards. I understand trying to build these guys, but if no one is watching them, then you're not building them.

Jon Jones was put on GSP vs Penn 2 and exposed to millions, that's how you build a fighter.

The UFC also has more inside access type shows. The had the ones with Rachel Leah where they followed a fighter around for a day, the do preview shows for every event, and the 24/7 thing for the big cards. The show that they're doing for the boxing tournament is the same type of thing that they need for SF.

& more CBS events. As far as that goes tho I think these guys are just using SF, CBS doesn't need MMA. But, Sho is in desperate need of some help in order to keep up with HBO, so they're really just trying to bolster Sho and throwing SF a bone every now and then with CBS.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

UFC has been stubborn about controlling their own production. They have let very good looking tv deals with HBO & CBS fall through because they refuse to let someone else produce their product. The slick video packages, the current music, Joe Rogan who the demo relates to, plus everything is fisrt class, state of the art, and up to date..from the graphics to the camera work and everything else, including the pace of the show and the format.

Strikeforce let's Showtime & CBS produce the shows, so you get some 50 year old sports directors vision of MMA.

Another thing that sets UFC apart is the ring walks. They let these guys choose their own music, and the camera follows them from the tunnel to the cage while Rogan has an orgasm telling you how awesome the guy is. Strikeforce has the same generic techno music for everyone, with the same pyro & slow walk down the ramp. Everyone cpmes off generic this way. The two most over guys for the ring walk last night were King Mo & Jacare. Mo did his thing, and Jacare was dancing like a fool and doing his crock chomp gimmick. People ate it up. They sat on their hands for everyone else, who just walked in a straight I a straight line and high fived people.

 

[stevsta]

I'm one of the guys who is a zuffa zombie (mainly a silva junkie) but have no real knowledge of the sport just like to see guys kick ass and take names also big fan of Joe Rogan commentary

I'm the guy you guys hate

 

[EmpireWF]

Another thing that sets UFC apart is the ring walks. They let these guys choose their own music, and the camera follows them from the tunnel to the cage while Rogan has an orgasm telling you how awesome the guy is. Strikeforce has the same generic techno music for everyone, with the same pyro & slow walk down the ramp. Everyone cpmes off generic this way.

Like ol school WWF and WCW. WCW's music was always that shitty generic crap. WWF had Jim Johnson creating awesome themes.

But the UFC doesn't always let guys choose their own music. I'm pretty sure Dana White has to approve it and if not, he picks for them.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yeah, Dana does reject some songs, that's part of keeping his production vision in place. He let's Wandy use his gay techno song, and he let's Cro Cop use the even gayer Wild Boys by Duran Duran, so yhe knows when to back off. Roy Nelson with "Fat" too.