Top 10 RB's going into 2010-2011 season

[Kuzzy Powers]

Also, I think a lot of people here are underrating Jamal Charles' ability.. If you think Jerome Harrison is good then Charles should blow your mind. Just wait until he has a half decent offensive line in front of him. I really like the direction the Chiefs brass is taking that team.. sadly.

Damn nukka I wish I woulda read this post b4 I replied and I coulda just co-signed and saved my fingers the trouble.

 

[Fox1994]

You mean the super bowl the jets didnt play in? Thomas Jones has been a top 3 rusher in the NFL for the past 3 years, why would they phase him out for a player who's had a few good games? Are you fucking retarded....shit, now sarah palins gunna be pissed at me.

Oh shit, I'm trippin. The AFCCG. haha. My bad.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I really wish they would entertain moving DeAngelo before his injuries really start to scare off suitors. They may be able to parlay him into their QB of the future or at the very least a second option alongside Steve Smith.

That would be awesome, parlay him for the future and still have a top 10 RB in J Stew...excellent idea, I'd do it.

You mean the super bowl the jets didnt play in? Thomas Jones has been a top 3 rusher in the NFL for the past 3 years, why would they phase him out for a player who's had a few good games? Are you fucking retarded....shit, now sarah palins gunna be pissed at me.

It's actually Green+Washington. I'd stick with Jones myself, but I wouldn't be shocked to hear they went in another direction.

No love for Clinton Portis back in a Mike Shanahan offense?

He wasn't running great when healthy this year. He couldn't even get 100 yards against the Rams or Lions this season. His only 100 yard game was against KC. He averaged 4.0 ypc on the year, and missed 8 games. He just wasn't the same RB he was in '08, even when healthy.

Also, I think a lot of people here are underrating Jamal Charles' ability.. If you think Jerome Harrison is good then Charles should blow your mind. Just wait until he has a half decent offensive line in front of him. I really like the direction the Chiefs brass is taking that team.. sadly.

I picked up Charles on three of my fantasy teams this season, yes he was the shit. At one point I had him at #8 on my list, but I couldn't justify him considering all of his big games came on the weak KC schedule late in the season. He's undersized and I can't see him taking 300+ carries next season as teams key him all year. He's an amazing talent though, I just don't know if he'll be top 10 in rushing yards. Again, me being conservative I guess.

Not really. He did virtually nothing his whole career with given opps, finally went on a sexy 3 game stretch, and actually got a lot of press for it, too. He may turn into a 1000 yard rusher, who knows. But he got his fair "rate" when he actually accomplished something for a string of games.

/co-sign

 

[Fox1994]

You mean the super bowl the jets didnt play in? Thomas Jones has been a top 3 rusher in the NFL for the past 3 years, why would they phase him out for a player who's had a few good games? Are you fucking retarded....shit, now sarah palins gunna be pissed at me.

Because he's old. That's what they do to old backs. I meant the AFC Championship Game....

Anywho, he's been great. Surprisingly so, considering his age. It probably has to do with the lack of attention he got with Arizona. He was... decent... in Tampa.

It was in Chicago, at age 26 that he really started to pan-out as a first-round pick. I think he's an amazing back, and I think he's really doing so well because of Leon as a backup and because he peaked later...

But, if you watched the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (sorry for calling it the Super Bowl), you'd see that he wasn't accomplishing much, while Shonn Greene seemingly graduated to the feature back role...

I'm not saying I hope TJ falls-off. In fact, I hope he doesn't. I hope they develop a true three-headed monster next year, but we'll see....

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Because he's old. That's what they do to old backs. I meant the AFC Championship Game....

Anywho, he's been great. Surprisingly so, considering his age. It probably has to do with the lack of attention he got with Arizona. He was... decent... in Tampa.

It was in Chicago, at age 26 that he really started to pan-out as a first-round pick. I think he's an amazing back, and I think he's really doing so well because of Leon as a backup and because he peaked later...

But, if you watched the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (sorry for calling it the Super Bowl), you'd see that he wasn't accomplishing much, while Shonn Greene seemingly graduated to the feature back role...

I'm not saying I hope TJ falls-off. In fact, I hope he doesn't. I hope they develop a true three-headed monster next year, but we'll see....

That offensive line is the shit, if TJ stays in town I'll have to remake my list I think...then again Green looked so impressive in the ACCG he earned more touches next season with or without TJ. washington will be always be the next option after Green.

 

[Fox1994]

I agree. haha.

 

[Saluki]

People are reading way to much into a player who's had a couple of good games. Lets just ignore he lead the team in fumbles in the regular season despite a limited role, no lets just put this guy who happened to play well for a couple games and put the ball in his hands more over either one of our two other proven backs. Watch, his carried will be few and far between next season.

 

[Fox1994]

I guess we'll see. There are no sure things right now. The Super Bowl was Sunday... The draft is a few weeks away, no notable free agents have been moved around yet... Kurt Warner's the only guy I can think of who's retired... There's a lot of movement to be done.

There's always a youth movement in the NFL, though, especially with runningbacks...

 

[Saluki]

the main point is, he shouldn't even be being mentioned in a top 10 rbs thread, moving on.

 

[Derrville]

Remember Julius Jones!

 

[Fox1994]

the main point is, he shouldn't even be being mentioned in a top 10 rbs thread, moving on.

And yet he was. Put that in your mouth and suck it. Jk. Like it matters...

Remember Julius Jones!

Evidently, you do. And Seahawks fans.

 

[Derrville]

Evidently, you do. And Seahawks fans.

I still sit and mope about what could have been.

 

[Fox1994]

Who knows? You have Felix Jones, now, though...

 

[stevsta]

the main point is, he shouldn't even be being mentioned in a top 10 rbs thread, moving on.

who are you talking about

 

[Fox1994]

I think he's talking about Shonn Greene... It's possible but highly unlikely that he was talking about Thomas Jones...

In either case, the OP brought both of those up in the initial post, not me.

 

[Blick]

Dude how is Jamaal Charles not on more of these lists. First guy in NFL history to rush for over 1100 yards on less than 200 carries. Averaged 5.9 yards per carry behind a line that allowed Larry Johnson to average 2.9 ypc.

Chris Johnson had 7 runs over 40 yards
Charles had 5 runs over 40 yards on 168 fewer carries

He's not a poor man's Chris Johnson. He can be just as good if he stays healthy. They're the same height and Charles is only 1 pound lighter. He has running away from the cops speed as well.

 

[Fox1994]

Dude how is Jamaal Charles not on more of these lists. First guy in NFL history to rush for over 1100 yards on less than 200 carries. Averaged 5.9 yards per carry behind a line that allowed Larry Johnson to average 2.9 ypc.

Chris Johnson had 7 runs over 40 yards
Charles had 5 runs over 40 yards on 168 fewer carries

He's not a poor man's Chris Johnson. He can be just as good if he stays healthy. They're the same height and Charles is only 1 pound lighter. He has running away from the cops speed as well.

Haha. Indeed. When he gets a line and a QB he's gonna be beast... Why'd they get rid of Thigpen? I think he's far more talented than Cassel, and if the NWE front office hadn't migrated to KC, I think Thigpen would've gotten a chance to prove me right.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Dude how is Jamaal Charles not on more of these lists. First guy in NFL history to rush for over 1100 yards on less than 200 carries. Averaged 5.9 yards per carry behind a line that allowed Larry Johnson to average 2.9 ypc.

Chris Johnson had 7 runs over 40 yards
Charles had 5 runs over 40 yards on 168 fewer carries

He's not a poor man's Chris Johnson. He can be just as good if he stays healthy. They're the same height and Charles is only 1 pound lighter. He has running away from the cops speed as well.

well...I hate to even do this because I really like the guy. I picked Charles up on three out of four of my fantasy teams this season, and he helped me to two championship games. If I were you I wouldn't complain if he's not on a top 10 list, because to me he falls anywhere from 8 to 12 on my list. Here's why.

He's that good because
All the reasons you said, and maybe some more. Plus he's a return guy, which I like.

reasons he falls out of top 10 most likely.
He had great success on maybe the easiest schedule to run the ball against.
Opponents from when he took the starting job.
Oak(rank 29) - 18 car, 103 yds, 1td
Pit(rank 3) - 17 car, 58 yds
SD (rank 20) - 14 car, 93 yds, 1td
Den(rank 26) - 18 car, 56 yds, 1td
Buf(rank 30) - 20 car, 142 yds, 1td
Cle(rank 28) - 25 car, 154 yds, 1td
Cin(rank 7) - 24 car 102 yds
Den(rank 26) - 25 car, 259 yds , 2tds

He's faced off against some very weak rush defenses this season, and when he's faced above average competition he's not done well. That's not to say I don't think he can do well against an above average run D, look at Cinci. I don't have any reason to believe that Charles can put up those number throughout the course of a 16 game season, not yet anyways. I hope to be surprised by him next year though. Right now, I see his great success was build on the backs of sub-standard run D's, so in my mind that takes away something from his thunder.

 

[Fox1994]

Besides that, though, he needs a good line. He's definitely top ten in talent, but he's gonna need top ten production. I think with a better line, he'll definitely get their though.

1120 yds, 7 TD; 297 receiving yds, TD

I think next year, just based on the conference he plays in AND the fact that he'll be starting more games, plus him getting closer to his peak, his numbers are gonna be higher. Now, he averaged 5.9 this year. If he averages 5.9 this year and gets his carries + LJ's carries, he'll have:

1894 yds... I think somewhere around 1600 is more likely. If he averages 5.6, he'll have 1766... But they'd probably use him more in the passing game, which could bring him down to 300 carries (18.75 a game) + 73 catches (his 40 catches, LJ's 12 catches, and the spare 21 touches) * 8.5 y/catch (his career average - 10.1 rookie year, 7.4 this year) =612 yds... I'd think somewhere around there would be accurate...

Mostly imperially, with a little estimation, his rushing numbers would be 300 carries for 1710 yds (5.7 y/a) with 14 touchdowns (he averaged a touchdown ever 27.14th carry last year, times 300 = 11; I think that's a little low).

Receiving, I bump the 8.5 to 9 y/catch * 73 catches = 657 yards; two touchdowns on 67 catches so far in his career... I'd say six or seven is more accurate...

He returned one kick for a touchdown last year - 925 yards, 24.4 average, 36 returns, one TD

But this is all guestimation with a little math worked-in...

[table=head]2010 Jamaal Charles|Rushing|Receiving|Returning
Touches|300|73|32
Yards|1710|657|781
Touchdowns|14|5|1[/table]

It might seem a little off-base, but this is just an estimation prediction...

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

1. Chris Johnson
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Jamaal Charles
4. Ray Rice
5. Michael Turner
6. DeAngelo Williams
7. Frank Gore
8. Steven Jackson
9. Shonn Greene
10. Maurice Jones Drew

Thats just how I think as far as overall production