Top 5 Pass Rushers

[Senser81]

Yep. Here's a guy with first round upside but didn't realize that potential until his 8th year bouncing around the league.

Kind of off-topic, but I think this shows how worthless Mel Kiper Jr. is.

The entire problem with Kiper and the draft prognostication field that he created is that they imagine players come out of college as known commodities. That a player's true ability and future performance are hidden traits, and the best teams are able to discern those if they look hard enough. It's 100% baloney.

How well a player performs is largely dependent on the coaching he receives after he's drafted, how hard he works, and whether he's given a chance to take advantage of his skills.

Folks like Kiper would have you believe that Tom Brady was a great QB and only Bill Belichick was able to see it, or that the rash of Bengals draft busts in the late 1990s was due to lousy scouting (as opposed to bad coaches and a lousy organization).

 

[Senser81]

That .75 number is sort of out of nowhere imo. At the same time though QB's can be hit and throw an INT which I'd much rather have than a sack.

But you don't know if the QB will throw and INT (or a TD, for that matter). Its like a batter talking a walk, and you saying you'd much rather have the batter not take a walk and instead hit a home run.

 

[Aso]

But you don't know if the QB will throw and INT (or a TD, for that matter). Its like a batter talking a walk, and you saying you'd much rather have the batter not take a walk and instead hit a home run.

Well the batter could strike out as well. Not a great great comparison just because in football whether QB X throws a TD or INT is of course dependent on the rest of the defense. If I'm evaluating a pass rusher I'd much rather look at all the numbers of when they were on the field (that site actually does keep track of every situation but you have to pay for it now, you didn't use to). So I'd much rather just say DE X had 80 QB disruptions total while OLB Y had 70, OLB Y was on the field for so many 3rd and longs while DE X was... etc. etc.

I just don't care enough at this point in my life to pay money just to absolutely know that so and so is a better pass rusher than someone else. I just don't care enough to pay the money.

EDIT: You use to be able to get sample 08 statistics and probably still can I bet. Not that anyone cares about who the better pass rushers were in the league 3-4 years ago.

 

[FirstTimer]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...ers-jason-pierre-paul-justin-tuck-jared-allen

TSN had Peppers at the top of the list.

 

[Woy]

Yep. Here's a guy with first round upside but didn't realize that potential until his 8th year bouncing around the league.

Stop it.

He is only good in Washburn's system. Once again, Champ would rack up double-digit sacks if he played there.

 

[G-men]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...ers-jason-pierre-paul-justin-tuck-jared-allen

TSN had Peppers at the top of the list.

Only ranking DEs though. I still think Ware tops the list if OLBs are included.

Also, lol at Justin Smith being above Jared Allen. Justin Smith isn't even the best pass rusher on his own team.

 

[trojan49er]

smh at Von Miller over Aldon Smith...Smith had more sacks, more QB hits, and more pressures in fewer snaps. Miller's a helluva pass rusher, dont get me wrong, but Smith had a bigger impact and, at least at this point, is a better pass rusher

 

[Villain]

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[Shayn•Da•Pain]

1. Ware
2. Allen
3. JPP
4. Aldon Smith
5. Jason Babin