Trent Richardson to Colts

[Influence]

Colts are 4th in total rushing yards this year. Either the line is much better, or Bradshaw has been a huge upgrade these past three weeks.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Colts are 4th in total rushing yards this year. Either the line is much better, or Bradshaw has been a huge upgrade these past three weeks.

Week 1 he was barely used because of an injury. Ballard carried the load.

Colts are 4th in total rushing mostly because rushing across the league is down, so, the Colts, who are rushing what would normally be "average"...are now one of the better teams in the league. Teams are throwing the ball around all over the damn place.

 

[jms493]

Yeah Bradshaw has 2 starts in 3 games and is 41/186 with 2 TDS

 

[ThunderHorse]

Colts are 4th in total rushing yards this year. Either the line is much better, or Bradshaw has been a huge upgrade these past three weeks.

179 on the 49'ers made my Jaw Drop. I don't think Indianapolis has had a day like that rushing since the Addai/Rhodes days. When Willis left the game things really went downhill for their defense and as the game progressed the holes just got bigger and bigger.

I thought Richardson had an average performance for a guy who's learning a new playbook and has had all of 3 days with it, in addition to learning how his new offensive lineman move. I didn't like that he dropped a lot of passes, they were tough catches but from everything I've read his hands are supposed to be one of his better tools, That wasn't apparent on Sunday.

 

[JimLeavy59]

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[Warner2BruceTD]

remember when the Browns were giving up and throwing in the towel because they traded a slightly better than average RB?

 

[Golden Taters]

Trent Richardson's two games with the Colts:

13 carries, 35 yards (2.7avg), long 7
20 carries, 60 yards (3.0avg), long 12

If anybody cares about the stats...

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

This guy is averaging 2.8 ypc with Indy with a long of 12. This isn't the Browns here, this is a team with a loaded passing game and elite QB and he still couldn't get a first down if you gave him three carries. He has not been the Colts leading rusher in either game so far (Bradshaw against SF, Donald Brown on THREE carries against Jacksonville)

Browns committed highway robbery by getting a first rounder for this guy.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I don't really expect Richardson to have command of the playbook in 10 days, nor have a feel for his lineman and how they block either.

imo it's not fair to pass out judgement until this guy has had at least 4 weeks with the team.

In addition to that, his average against Jax is more of a testament to the offensive coordinator's playcalling, and less his ability. Any time Indianapolis chose to run it was in obvious situations.

 

[Maynard]

Trent Richardson's two games with the Colts:

13 carries, 35 yards (2.7avg), long 7
20 carries, 60 yards (3.0avg), long 12

If anybody cares about the stats...

after Trents first week with the Colts I posted about how bad he was and all the haters came back with 'oh it was his first game'
Ok, so throwing those 1st game stats out for both trent and willis

Former #3 overall who had a full training camp, vs 11 year vet with no training camp and still knocking off the rust.

T. Richardson
20 carries, 60 yards, 3.0 avg, long 12

W. McGahee
15 carries, 46 yards, 3.1 avg, long 9

didnt willis also suffer one of the most gruesome knee injuries ever? oh yeah, looks like the browns lost in this deal

 

[Pitty]

13 carries of which came after being up 27-3. I bet the Jags didn't know what was coming...

 

[ralaw]

I think it is safe to say that Richardson probably is not worth a first round pick, but he sort of showed that with the Browns. Richardson is a short yardage thumper who can catch the ball out of the backfield and that is about it. As he learns the system I am sure he will get better, but I would't expect anything special.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I don't really expect Richardson to have command of the playbook in 10 days, nor have a feel for his lineman and how they block either.

imo it's not fair to pass out judgement until this guy has had at least 4 weeks with the team.

In addition to that, his average against Jax is more of a testament to the offensive coordinator's playcalling, and less his ability. Any time Indianapolis chose to run it was in obvious situations.

Command of the playbook? Feel for his linemen?

He's a running back.

 

[Pitty]

Command of the playbook? Feel for his linemen?

He's a running back.

I can understand the linemen, he's going to know the tendencies of how holes will develop as he develops a rapport with them. As for the playbook, the only thing I could see him having to grasp is the pass blocking schemes, everything else is simply, run in this general direction.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

13 carries of which came after being up 27-3. I bet the Jags didn't know what was coming...

He averaged 3.5ypc before it was 27-3 with long of 7 yards. With half of his rushes being for one or less.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I can understand the linemen, he's going to know the tendencies of how holes will develop as he develops a rapport with them. As for the playbook, the only thing I could see him having to grasp is the pass blocking schemes, everything else is simply, run in this general direction.

Did you ever watch him with the Browns?

There were plenty of times he would have the Red Sea parted for him only to gain 0-1 yards on the run.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Command of the playbook? Feel for his linemen?

He's a running back.

It was obvious in the first week of his tenure here that Indianapolis couldn't really use him because of his ignorance of the playbook. This week it opened up a little more, Indy was able to use him in more formations than against the 49ers.

In addition to that Cleveland's offensive line is better than Indianapolis', whose unit has been arguably the league's worst for the last 2-3 years, I think it's fair to say that there's an adjustment period.

Colt rb's really haven't averaged much the last few years, I don't think anyone has really eclipsed 4 yards a carry since Joseph Addai was playing there. Donald Brown might have but it's not a testament to his talent, because outside of a couple of Jacksonville games Donald Brown would arguably be the worst pick of the Bill Polian era if not for Jerry Hughes. I've watched Joe Addai, Donald Brown, Vick Ballard, Delone Carter, and countless others try to find some success behind the offensive line in Indianapolis and it's never happened. Honestly if any of those guys started this game I doubt they even average what Richardson did. I can say with a decent amount of certainty that Richardson is probably the most talented back to suit up for the Colts since James. Bottom line is Indianapolis does not have the offensive line talent to harbor a 4 ypc back.

Was he worth trading a first round pick for? I don't know yet. But I'm going to wait until the season is up, possibly even through next season before I throw the guy under the bus. I just think it's to early to say that this was a bad move, but I will admit with two weeks of statistics one would be hard pressed to make a legitimate case that the guy has been successful.

One thing I will say is that Indy needed a guy who could move the chains and get tough yards whose name wasn't Bradshaw and they've got it. He's pretty much done everything Indianapolis has asked him to do at the goalline, and on the 3rd and one he failed to convert yesterday I swear the kid threw 4 Jaguars off of him.

Did you really watch the game against Jax? Jacksonville's linebackers played the run incredibly. I mean indy's offensive lineman looked so slow when they were pulling, none of the running plays they ran really developed. It seemed like Indianapolis was trying to run off tackle a lot and Jacksonville just was not going to allow it. Posluszny (Sp?) was untouched most of the time and Richardson never even got back to the LOS without having to fight through some traffic. Posluszny really caught my eye Sunday, it seemed like he was everywhere.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I can understand the linemen, he's going to know the tendencies of how holes will develop as he develops a rapport with them. As for the playbook, the only thing I could see him having to grasp is the pass blocking schemes, everything else is simply, run in this general direction.

His grasp of the playbook has less do with him personally as opposed to the team as a whole.

If he doesn't know the audibles, and is still learning blocking schemes, it limits what Luck can do before the snap. This was blatantly obvious against San Francisco and less of an issue with Jacksonville.

I wanted to see him have a better game against Jax, but I recognized pretty early in the game that Jax was content on making Luck win the game and taking out the rushing offense. Jax' linebackers just attacked the LOS with such ferocity, There were more guys in the box, and everyone flew to the ball. Luck had some incredibly easy throws towards the end of the game with guys literally by themselves because Jax was so adamant about stopping the run game.

 

[Maynard]

13 carries of which came after being up 27-3. I bet the Jags didn't know what was coming...

AD is the vikings only weapon...i bet the dee didnt know he was coming. In fact, I bet the same could be said for all the elite backs in the league

 

[Pitty]

AD is the vikings only weapon...i bet the dee didnt know he was coming. In fact, I bet the same could be said for all the elite backs in the league

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