Tyrone Wheatley

[ZoneBlitz]

LOL at "entire draft", as if all drafts are equal. The 2005 draft was terrible, and Benson has had 3 straight 1000-yard seasons. He's not a bust.

Again, you act as if the draft is some type of machine, as if every year the draft produces the same amount of great players, and these great players are spread equally amongst all positions. Its just up to the teams to decide which great player they want to take.

Scouting is an inexact science. Drafting is somewhat dependent on your needs, and very dependent on who other teams take and also what the "market value" is for a player. If the Packers think Matt Flynn will be a good QB, but no one has him going higher than the 5th round and the Packers already have Aaron Rogers, would it make sense for the Packers to draft Flynn with their 1st round pick? No, that would be stupid.

You love to ramble and make stupid comparisons.

I will ask you again...do you think the appropriate expectations for the #4 pick in a draft is for the player to be a POS?

I ask you about Benson because you've stated how you feel hes a POS player...i dont necessarily view him as a bust, his career rebounded in Cincinnati.

 

[Senser81]

You love to ramble and make stupid comparisons.

I will ask you again...do you think the appropriate expectations for the #4 pick in a draft is for the player to be a POS?

I ask you about Benson because you've stated how you feel hes a POS player...i dont necessarily view him as a bust, his career rebounded in Cincinnati.

What on earth are you getting at? You've already asked me about Benson three times. I think he is a POS, but he's not a bust. I think Terrell Owens was/is a POS, but I wouldn't say he's a bust, either. I haven't really changed my tune on that. I don't know what "appropriate expectations" are for a #4 pick, because it depends on the draft that year. For about the fifth time, the draft isn't a rote exercise. You can't just plug in some numbers and say "this is what a #4 pick should do".

I will ask you again...do you think that a "bust" has 3 straight 1000-yard seasons? And if you don't think Benson is a bust, then WTF are you blithering about?

And where is the groan button?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

What on earth are you getting at? You've already asked me about Benson three times. I think he is a POS, but he's not a bust. I think Terrell Owens was/is a POS, but I wouldn't say he's a bust, either. I haven't really changed my tune on that. I don't know what "appropriate expectations" are for a #4 pick, because it depends on the draft that year. For about the fifth time, the draft isn't a rote exercise. You can't just plug in some numbers and say "this is what a #4 pick should do".

I will ask you again...do you think that a "bust" has 3 straight 1000-yard seasons? And if you don't think Benson is a bust, then WTF are you blithering about?

And where is the groan button?

I started this conversation in response to Larry, so if you jumped in and dont know what my point is, then thats your fault.

I will repeat my point...my point is that his stance that "a player is not a bust if he stays in the league" is completely incorrect.

You brought up Benson, and i asked you about him because YOU stated hes a POS player (i dont agree that he is). Im gonna drop it right there because i dont wanna confuse you further.

In conclusion, a #4 overall pick (in any draft year) has higher expectations for his career than being an average or POS player.

 

[Senser81]

I started this conversation in response to Larry, so if you jumped in and dont know what my point is, then thats your fault.

That makes sense. Its not like your conversation in response to Larry isn't posted on, say, a website forum, so I'm sure there are bits and pieces of your conversation that I am not privy to. Perhaps you can forward me those PMs between yourself and Larry, just for my sake?

I will repeat my point...my point is that his stance that "a player is not a bust if he stays in the league" is completely incorrect.

I don't recall saying that the objects of discussion, Ced Benson and Ty Wheatley, "are not busts because they stayed in the league". This is the typical "Mom, Dad...Zoneblitz is arguing with himself again!" moment.

You brought up Benson, and i asked you about him because YOU stated hes a POS player (i dont agree that he is). Im gonna drop it right there because i dont wanna confuse you further.

And I repeated that he's a POS, so I don't know where your confusion is stemming from, or why you continue to ask the same question over and over.

In conclusion, a #4 overall pick (in any draft year) has higher expectations for his career than being an average or POS player.

OK, you are retarded. The parenthetical "in any draft year" is just you repeating the same misguided construct that every draft year is the same. For the sixth time, the draft isn't a rote exercise. You can't just plug in some numbers and say "this is what a #4 pick should do". For instance, Cedric Benson was a #4 overall pick, and a few years earlier Ricky Williams was a #5 overall pick. Would you say that the expectations for Benson were HIGHER than the expectations for Ricky Williams, and, if so, the reasoning behind the expectations were because Benson was drafted one spot higher than Williams?

If you say yes, then your posting will be reported as being "unfit for posting duty".

 

[Senser81]

Cedric Benson is most definately a bust.

i dont necessarily view him as a bust, his career rebounded in Cincinnati.

You love to ramble

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I meant hes a bust if you consider him a POS, which you do but i dont.

 

[Senser81]

I meant hes a bust if you consider him a POS, which you do but i dont.

"You truly have a dizzying intellect."

 

[f16harm]

Him being over-drafted is irrelevant. He was drafted at #9, he didnt produce like a #9, therefore hes a bust. You can blame Cameron instead of Ginn, but hes still a bust.

You have returned to this site with the fury of full retard in you. That statement makes no God damn sense whatsoever.