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UFC 104: Machida vs Shogun 10/24

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Izzy is a bum
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Matchups:

Lyoto Machidavs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua
Ben Rothwell vs. Cain Velasquez
Josh Neer vs. Gleison Tibau
Spencer Fisher vs. Joe Stevenson
Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida

Yushin Okami vs. Chael Sonnen
Ryan Bader vs. Eric Schafer
Chase Gormley vs. Stefan Struve
Patrick Barry vs. Antoni Hardonk
Jorge Rivera vs. Rob Kimmons
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Razak Al-Hassan
 
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300k-400k.

Taking place during KIMBO TUF, but I don't think alot of the eyeballs watching that are PPV buyers, or even know who or care who Machida is.

This main event has no juice, and desperately needed a strong semi main to help carry it. Instead, the undercard is littered with Fight Night names.

Machida wins the fight.

sidenote-LOL@Okami in the prelims again. They are so afraid he will stink things up. Just cut the guy already, jeez.
 
I still feel the same way about the buys, if it does numbers in the 300k area then the UFC really needs to rethink their marketing scheme. Regardless tho I'm really looking forward to this card, Shogun/Machida has the potential to be FOTY and Rumble kicking the night off should be a lot of fun.

Who are you guys picking?
 
Shogun RUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAA

shogun needs to stay aggressive and keep pressing forward no matter how "elusive" machida becomes. if the "old" shogun (we seem to say that about every pride fighter now in the UFC) is back i think he takes it, but if he gets sucked into machidas gameplan it could be a loooooong night.

sidenote - rob you are a UFC schill, you just dont care to admit it.
 
I can't wait for the Machida vs Shogun fight, but, I am looking forward to the Cain Velasquez fight the most. Cain is probably my fav HW. So dominant on the ground with his wrestling. He made Cheick Kongo look stupid at UFC 99. The only weakness Cain has right now is his stand-up. Kongo almost knocked him out with a couple of punches, but, once the fight was back on the mat, Cain owned. Cain could be dominant down the road if he betters his striking and stand-up.
 
RyanLeaf16 said:
I can't wait for the Machida vs Shogun fight, but, I am looking forward to the Cain Velasquez fight the most. Cain is probably my fav HW. So dominant on the ground with his wrestling. He made Cheick Kongo look stupid at UFC 99. The only weakness Cain has right now is his stand-up. Kongo almost knocked him out with a couple of punches, but, once the fight was back on the mat, Cain owned. Cain could be dominant down the road if he betters his striking and stand-up.
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lol Kongo made Cain look stupid on their feet. i'll give Cain credit for having a head of steel cause those were some wicked shots he took and recovered very quickly to take Kongo down but Rothwell isnt going down as easily as Kongo thats for sure, and if he can land some clean punches i wouldnt be surprised if Cain got KTFO by Big Ben, and if not Cain gonna pound on him for a decision victory.
 
Cain had the chin of a 6 yr old girl in that fight. He looked terrible. Every punch resulted in wobbly knees.

Well see if it was his weak ass chin or Kongos herculean strikes.

Im taking Machida , Itll be interested to see how Rua comes out in this one. If fights balls to the wall I think he can pull it off.

People that dont speak "american" dont sell. Which is ironic because I dont recall a single witty or memorable thing a guy like Chuck Liddell has ever said.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
sidenote-LOL@Okami in the prelims again. They are so afraid he will stink things up. Just cut the guy already, jeez.
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exactly, just cut the dude if you're going to do this to him, he is ranked anywhere from 3-5 at MW and the guy cant get on the maincard, what a joke

free okami
 
Steel Mamba said:
Who are you guys picking?
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I still have to think about the title fight, I am torn, right my heart is with Shogun and my head is saying Machida

but my other picks would be

Ben Rothwell vs. Cain Velasquez
Spencer Fisher vs. Joe Stevenson
Anthony Johnson vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Yushin Okami vs. Chael Sonnen
 
JeremyHight said:
I went to go bet on this one (Machida and Vasquez) and it wasn't even worth it. Machida is like -550.
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At those odds, you almost have to play Shogun, even if you think Machida will win. Shogun is very capable of a flash KO, so he's definately the better play. Can't lay -550 and make serious money.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
At those odds, you almost have to play Shogun, even if you think Machida will win. Shogun is very capable of a flash KO, so he's definately the better play. Can't lay -550 and make serious money.
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Problem being that I think Machida is going to wreck Rua. Rua is like +250 or so (I will check again Saturday morning), but to me, it is a guaranteed loss.
 
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