UFC 140: Bones vs. Machida (12/10 on PPV)

[Liquidrob]

lol @ ESPN not showing the finish on there recap, bunch of pussys

Also, I see a lot of MMA fans blasting Jones for just letting go of Machida and letting him drop, nothing wrong with that

 

[Liquidrob]

I see some future phototshops of Machida and Post Machida Rashad hanging out

 

[EmpireWF]

lmao, ready for another reason to dislike Bones?

http://www.twitvid.com/CC7Q9

That's Greg Jackson yelling at him.

The fact this was caught on tape is hilarious.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

Meh, that's not a statement on his personality, really. Just did what Jackson told him to do.

 

[EmpireWF]

Meh, that's not a statement on his personality, really. Just did what Jackson told him to do.

Not on his personality, but about how crafted his image may be.

 

[Steel Mamba]

He wasn't respected before tonight?

You guys have short memories, Mir was called a bum repeatedly by a bunch of different people here.

 

[Steel Mamba]

He said in the post fight interview that he knew he was asleep. Seems a little disrespectful to just shuck him to the ground like that no?

What's he suppose to do? Lay a pillow out and place him down gracefully?

It's a fight, he did what he's suppose to do by letting the hold go immediately. So funny how fighters like BJ Penn don't get any flak for not letting go of a choke after a tap, which is obviously far more dangerous. But, Jones get shit for someone who was knocked out falling to the ground? Doesn't make any sense..

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Great night of fights.
No need to help him down just like Mir doesn't feel the need to hold back on subs and is more than willing to snap an arm if you dont tap.
Difference is Mir knows and flaunts his being an asshole Bones is a phony.

 

[FirstTimer]

It's not even that big of a deal, I just don't see how you can say you respect someone greatly, tell Joe Rogan that you knew he was asleep, and still just shuck him to the ground. And he respects him enough to get TOLD to check on Lyoto.

I'm not mad, I know he's his opponent, but he said before this fight that he probably respects Lyoto more than anyone. Why does he have to be so fake? If you're a dick then show it.

:lolwut:

He didn't just throw him to the ground. he let go of the hold and frankly Machida was let down to the ground pretty slowly for someone who was unconscious.

On top of that the ref was pushing Jones away a bit and actually whiffed on trying to hold Machida up it looks like.

Anyone bitching about it must just be a salty Machida fan.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Not on his personality, but about how crafted his image may be.

He ran down a guy who robbed someone. Thats all I have to say about that.

 

[FirstTimer]

Fail on missing the point though.

You failed to make any point.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

He ran down a guy who robbed someone. Thats all I have to say about that.

And ?
What does stopping a robbery have to do with being an ego maniac or a douche ?

You failed to make any point.

You dont talk about respecting a guy and act like a classy dude then clearly do something that shows disrespect. Having to be told to go over is just more of it.
His point was pretty clear.

 

[mgoblue2290]

And ?
What does stopping a robbery have to do with being an ego maniac or a douche ?

Its show he's a good person. Even though he had a championship fight later that day, he was willing to risk injury to help someone he didn't even know. He could have stayed in the car or just left, but he didn't.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Its show he's a good person. Even though he had a championship fight later that day, he was willing to risk injury to help someone he didn't even know. He could have stayed in the car or just left, but he didn't.

I don't think anyone called him a bad person.

Its usually implied that an athletes persona isn't always reflective of there moral fiber.

Bones Jones is a douche. Frank Mir is a douche. Im pretty sure they'd both walk an old lady across the street. One of them remains a hypocrite this thread should indicate which.

 

[FirstTimer]

And ?
What does stopping a robbery have to do with being an ego maniac or a douche ?



You dont talk about respecting a guy and act like a classy dude then clearly do something that shows disrespect. Having to be told to go over is just more of it.
His point was pretty clear.

I think that's the point numb nuts.

It wasn't "clearly" asign of disrespect. He didn't throw him to the ground. Didn't even do the cocky "GTF off me" shrug off. He let him go as the ref told him to, the ref whiffed on holding up Miachida..which is his job, not Jones' ...etc.

He had and still has no point because it wasn't "clearly" anything

Some bitch ass Machida fans here.

 

[Primetime]

Grif :facepalm:

 

[FirstTimer]

The point is Jones is a dick and tries to act like butterflies n cupcakes.

Ok..and even if that's true(I really don't care either way).. that has nothing to do with what happened at the end of the Machida fight.

Because Jones did nothing wrong...or even questionable... by any reasonable standard.

Even if FT is right

I am.

Save that Jackson BS..he admitted to saying stupid shit.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/26512/tra...fans-comments-following-jones-ufc-140-win.mma

Just as Jon Jones was caught up in the moment following his submission win over Lyoto Machida, so too was trainer Greg Jackson when he told his fighter to "go check on Lyoto – get some fans."

"I shouldn't have spoken in that way, but that wasn't my intention," Jackson today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "It sounded bad, but moronic [expletive] comes out of my mouth sometimes."

The intention, he said, wasn't to be political but to remind Jones to conduct himself honorably inside the cage.

"What I was saying was, 'Go check on Lyoto,' what I meant was to remember that you're a public figure," Jackson said. "There's always attention on you and what you're doing all the time, and there's cage etiquette. There's things you're supposed to do, and going and checking on somebody is what you're supposed to do.

"And now because I'm in military mode and in shorthand mode, I say, 'Jon, go check on Lyoto and go get some fans,' and what I should have said was, 'You're a public figure. There's a way to conduct yourself.' But instead, I shorthanded it."

Light-heavyweight champ Jones (15-1 MMA, 9-1 UFC) submitted Machida (17-3 MMA, 9-3 UFC) with a modified guillotine choke in the second round in the headliner of this past Saturday's UFC 140 event, which took place at Air Canada Centre in Toronto and aired live on pay-per-view.

There are several unwritten rules between fighters and camps when it comes to the time before, during and after fights inside the octagon. One of the most well-recognized is the act of shaking hands with the opposing fighter and his coaches. But frequently when an injury takes place during a fight, or there is a particularly devastating stoppage, a fighter is seen attending to his downed opponent as medical officials tend to him.

In most cases, fighters are seen embracing as the official decision is announced inside the cage.

While Jackson's words implied a certain lack of care from Jones toward Machida, he said that isn't the case.

"That's the point I want to drive home," Jackson said. "Jon is a really good guy. Everybody is just attacking his character because that's what you have to attack when you can't attack somebody's fighting.

"It's not that he was a bad guy. You just literally go crazy. None of these guys outside of the cage could understand that after the fight, you're in the zone, man. It's such an intense camp, especially for Jon, month after month, fight after fight.

"Let's take B.J. Penn for an example. He's actually a really nice guy; he walks around licking blood off his gloves all the time. Chuck Liddell is one of the sweetest, nicest guys you'll ever meet, but when he knocks you unconscious, he runs around screaming and pumping his arms. That's not normal behavior. So my job with Jon is to remind him. When the referee said break, he broke, and then he was still there in that zone. I was like, 'Now, it's time to relax and calm down and check on the guy.' I should have said, 'Remember your public figure.' But like I say, 'Go get some Donald Cerrone,' I said, 'Go get some fans.'"

But as Jackson has become accustomed to during his time as a trainer to world-class fighters, he said his words and actions are frequently misinterpreted.

"So it's just a matter of time before everyone gets mad at me again," Jackson joked.

The silver lining, of course, is the performance of his fighter, who defended his belt for the second time in his fourth performance of this year. While Jones' struggled with Machida and appeared flustered in the first round, he took complete control in the second after taking the former champ to the ground and opening a cut with an elbow. After rocking Machida with a punch late in the frame, he seized upon a choke and put the Brazilian out cold.

"Machida came in with a great plan; he was trying to interrupt Jon's strikes in between what I call a 'heaviola' style of fighting," Jackson said "You put a note in between the notes, where every time they go to do something, you interrupt them. That was a brilliant, brilliant tactic. It worked very well for him.

'[Jones] got hit a few times really hard. He showed that he had a great jaw. He got kind of flustered and confused for a little bit and was able to bring it back and reconnect with everything. He got tested and he passed the test. I was so proud of him for that."

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I think that's the point numb nuts.

It wasn't "clearly" asign of disrespect. He didn't throw him to the ground. Didn't even do the cocky "GTF off me" shrug off. He let him go as the ref told him to, the ref whiffed on holding up Miachida..which is his job, not Jones' ...etc.

He had and still has no point because it wasn't "clearly" anything

Some bitch ass Machida fans here.

Right , and I guess it was imagination that he was being screamed at to go check on Jones ? Not like he immediately went to the cameras to smile and say "I love you guys".

Everything that's come out about Jones paints him as a self loving douche.

Get over yourself. Its an act thats wearing thin he's trying way to hard to be GSP , just drop it and embrace the jackass like Tito did.

 

[FirstTimer]

Right , and I guess it was imagination that he was being screamed at to go check on Jones

See above.

:yawn: at not wanting to check on Machida.

Not like he immediately went to the cameras to smile and say "I love you guys".

:yawn:

LOL at bitching about this in a sport where you have Tito Ortiz digging imaginary graves for his victims after fights.


For watching such a violent sport you guys sure are bitch made about this shit.


Jones is being Jones. Whatever. He did nothing wrong after the fight and anyone saying otherwise already disliked the guy to begin with and is just looking to continue grinding the axe.

I think it speaks pretty loudly that I have yet to see any real MMA fighters comign out and lambasting or taking Jones to task on this. It's only the internet board Chuck Liddell's bitching about this stuff.

 

[FirstTimer]

that Jones is a dick

:youmad:

:edlover:

Jones stopped a robbery.

Not a dick.

:smug:

:dealwithit:



Jones being a dick..which I don't really care about either way...has nothing to do with him not doing anythign wrong after the Machida fight, especially in terms of letting the hold on Machida go.

You mad brah?