Vikings close to trading for QB...

[FirstTimer]

I think that's a pretty smart move on Minnesota's part.
Rosenfels an upgrade over Jackson ... and, at worst, a fall back plan if they can't get a better QB in the off-season.

Frankly, I think a guy flying under the radar is J.P. Losman. Strong arm, good mobility, starting experience. I think with the right team, he'd be an excellent pickup.

JP Losman is a worse version of Rex Grossman.

 

[Point Blank]

What was Sage's record as a starter :confused2:

 

[Hasselbeck]

I think that's a pretty smart move on Minnesota's part.
Rosenfels an upgrade over Jackson ... and, at worst, a fall back plan if they can't get a better QB in the off-season.

Frankly, I think a guy flying under the radar is J.P. Losman. Strong arm, good mobility, starting experience. I think with the right team, he'd be an excellent pickup.

Agreed.. Losman would be an excellent pickup for the Philadelphia Soul.

 

[corbin]

JP has raw skills to play in the NFL. Sadly for him he can't make a read or at times he can't make an accurate short slant to save his life.

 

[ralaw]

Wasn't Jackson playing really well at the end of the season?

 

[Leftwich]

From who?????

Aaron Rodgers. He'll dominate the Vikings secondary and while that happens, Freeman can see how its done.

 

[Prodigal Son]

Wasn't Jackson playing really well at the end of the season?

I believe it was more of a "Well, at least he's not fucking it up." type of play.

 

[FirstTimer]

Aaron Rodgers. He'll dominate the Vikings secondary and while that happens, Freeman can see how its done.

But Freeman won't be playing against the Vikings secondary.

 

[dave]

JP Losman is a worse version of Rex Grossman.

I think if you look at the numbers objectively, you might wanna reconsider that argument.

Losman only lost his job because of injury ... and the Bills haven't given their QBs very good supporting casts.
One above average receivers (Evans) and Lynch came on board after Losman lost his job.
I still think Losman has some upside ... and could succeed if given a better supporting cast.

 

[killgod]

Losman sucks dave. He also sucks at pro football. He'd need elite players to make him look just good.


Anyways..

Aren't the Vikings a struggling franchise? Like they can't even put people in the seats? Sage Rosenfails isn't going to help that out one bit.....

 

[dave]

JP has raw skills to play in the NFL. Sadly for him he can't make a read or at times he can't make an accurate short slant to save his life.

Look at the Bills' receivers.
Other than Evans, they all suck and can't get open.
Has Losman made bad reads? Absolutely.
Does he try to force the ball sometimes? Yup.

But if you have receivers like the Bills have, an underachieving offensive line and bad coaching, it's not gonna help the QB.

 

[Leftwich]

But Freeman won't be playing against the Vikings secondary.

Good call.

 

[Archer]

 

[FirstTimer]

I think if you look at the numbers objectively, you might wanna reconsider that argument.

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Umm no, I wouldn't. Losman lost his job because he sucked and Trent Edwards wasn't screwing up every other play as Losman was. JP is trash.

JP was a sub .500 QB with the same teams that Trent Edwards had in playoff position.

Grossman has been one half away from winning a Super Bowl.

 

[dave]

Umm no, I wouldn't. Losman lost his job because he sucked and Trent Edwards wasn't screwing up every other play as Losman was. JP is trash.

JP was a sub .500 QB with the same teams that Trent Edwards had in playoff position.

Grossman has been one half away from winning a Super Bowl.

Grossman is Losman without the scrambling skills.
Grossman didn't lead that Bears to the Super Bowl, your defence did.
That's like saying Trent Dilfer led the Ravens to their Super Bowl.

 

[FirstTimer]

Look at the Bills' receivers.
Other than Evans, they all suck and can't get open.
Has Losman made bad reads? Absolutely.
Does he try to force the ball sometimes? Yup.

But if you have receivers like the Bills have, an underachieving offensive line and bad coaching, it's not gonna help the QB.

Yeah and Grossman had world beaters at WR in Chicago.

 

[dave]

Yeah and Grossman had world beaters at WR in Chicago.

But Grossman sucks too. You already know that.

 

[FirstTimer]

Grossman is Losman without the scrambling skills.
Grossman didn't lead that Bears to the Super Bowl, your defence did.
That's like saying Trent Dilfer led the Ravens to their Super Bowl.

I never said that Grossman "lead" the Bears anywhere.

On top of the fact Grossman's play in the playoffs sure as hell did his part in helping the the Bears to the Super Bowl. The Bears defense for the last half of 2006 was anything but impressive.

 

[FirstTimer]

But Grossman sucks too. You already know that.

Grossman at his best>>Losman at his best.

 

[FirstTimer]

OMG you two. Losman and Grossman both suck, and picking which one is better is like picking what sack of shit smells better. Who cares? They shouldn't start for a team again, although they can add depth to a team.

So could I just by virtue of being on the roster