Wacky BCS scenarios

[ZoneBlitz]

If there was no east and west separation there would be no title game. The SEC held no such event for 100 years. Then they added two teams, someone had a great idea to split them up and stage a made-for-TV championship game at the end of the year, ???? and profit.

Who says you need East/West separation? What they needed was 12 teams, and they figured to separate them. Im ok with the separation for rivalry & scheduling purposes, but not for determing whos in the conf championship game.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

On par with your mental masturbation in this thread.

You should have stayed gone.

 

[Atlas]

So all of you who are attacking me would rather see LSU-Georgia than LSU-Alabama? Just making sure.

Alabama is higher ranked & has a better record than Georgia, my concept is the conference championship games should include the 2 best overall teams, not have them separated arbitrarily in 2 divisions. Every year you see shit teams win a shit division and get blown out in the conference championship game.

again, you are letting the point of this argument go over your head: it doesn't matter what we want, Georgia and LSU (likely) won their divisions and will play for the SEC championship, its as simple as that... same thing happened with Texas back in 2008... it does suck, but you cant just arbitrarily reassign teams to divisions every year (or in the middle of the season) to separate the two best teams, thats fucking retarded...

 

[ZoneBlitz]

If this was still pre-SEC CG days, we'd just crown LSU as the conference champion after the regular season. Would you prefer that?

Obviously what i prefer is to keep the 12 teams and just choose the highest ranked 2 teams, not to eliminate the game altogether. Whats wrong with all of you?

 

[NAHSTE]

Who says you need East/West separation? What they needed was 12 teams, and they figured to separate them. Im ok with the separation for rivalry & scheduling purposes, but not for determing whos in the conf championship game.

The fucking people who invented the championship game, that's who. You are arguing about something that was literally made up 20 years ago.

You: "They shouldn't do it like that they should change it!"
Me: "Uh, the only reason they even came up with this idea is to accommodate the very set up you are trying to change."
You: "So? They shouldn't do it like that they should change it!"

... repeat ad nauseum

Obviously what i prefer is to keep the 12 teams and just choose the highest ranked 2 teams, not to eliminate the game altogether. Whats wrong with all of you?

That would be the stupidest thing ever. Again, without a divisional format there IS NO NEED FOR A TITLE GAME.

You seriously want the SEC to merge into a single league but still hold a rematch between LSU and Alabama in Atlanta, three weeks after LSU beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa, simply for kicks?

The SEC CG is to accommodate teams in opposite divisions who have not gotten to play the top teams in the other division. Georgia has not played LSU, Alabama or Arkansas. How can you possibly pretend to know that they are not as good as the teams in the West? Because you are just guessing?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

again, you are letting the point of this argument go over your head: it doesn't matter what we want, Georgia and LSU (likely) won their divisions and will play for the SEC championship, its as simple as that... same thing happened with Texas back in 2008... it does suck, but you cant just arbitrarily reassign teams to divisions every year (or in the middle of the season) to separate the two best teams, thats fucking retarded...

Who said to arbitrarily reassign teams? What i simply said is choose the 2 best teams, and keep the division format as it is for scheduling & rivalry purposes. I didnt know that presenting a new idea for college football was so outrageous to some.

 

[ralaw]

I really like NAHSTE, but I would like to see LSU lose to Arkansas and see Oregon and Alabama win out. I want to see this for no other reason, but to see if voters would rank Alabama and Oregon ahead of LSU. If they did it would show its not about who you lose to, but instead when you lose.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The fucking people who invented the championship game, that's who. You are arguing about something that was literally made up 20 years ago.

You: "They shouldn't do it like that they should change it!"
Me: "Uh, the only reason they even came up with this idea is to accommodate the very set up you are trying to change."
You: "So? They shouldn't do it like that they should change it!"

... repeat ad nauseum



That would be the stupidest thing ever.

Oh, so because those people came up with it, then thats how it should be? Just like they came up with the BCS, so that should stay as it is too?

 

[FirstTimer]

So ignore on teh field results and just pick who Zoneblitz thinks are teh two best teams and have them play.

Awesome.

Is it possible that Georgia is betetr than LSU? Sure. Likely? Or do I think so? No. But it's possible.

There's no reason(at this point) that Georgia doesn't desrve to play LSU to see who is better and the champion of the SEC.

Zone must be an Alabama fan or something.

 

[Atlas]

we need to lock zoneblitz and jeremyhight in a room together and just let them argue about this til they both assplode...

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Me: They should keep everything how it is and just pick the 2 highest ranked teams for the conf championship game.

Others: Thats crazy! Thats stupid! They made it like this 20 years ago so thats how it should be!

 

[ZoneBlitz]

So ignore on teh field results and just pick who Zoneblitz thinks are teh two best teams and have them play.

Awesome.

Is it possible that Georgia is betetr than LSU? Sure. Likely? Or do I think so? No. But it's possible.

There's no reason(at this point) that Georgia doesn't desrve to play LSU to see who is better and the champion of the SEC.

Zone must be an Alabama fan or something.

Not who zoneblitz wants, but who is highest ranked. Try again.

 

[NAHSTE]

Me: They should keep everything how it is and just pick the 2 highest ranked teams for the conf championship game.

Others: Thats crazy! Thats stupid! They made it like this 20 years ago so thats how it should be!

The championship game came about because the East and West divisions were drawn up. Otherwise, they would have just continued to award the championship to the team with the best regular season record.

You can't eliminate divisions and still host a championship game when the divisional alignment is literally the ONLY REASON (well, that and money/tv ratings) we have a championship game to begin with.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Its not like the rankings are skewed and favor predetermined "favorites" from before the season even began.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The championship game came about because the East and West divisions were drawn up. Otherwise, they would have just continued to award the championship to the team with the best regular season record.

You can't eliminate divisions and still host a championship game when the divisional alignment is literally the ONLY REASON (well, that and money/tv ratings) we have a championship game to begin with.

For the 100th time, i didnt say eliminate divisions, what im saying is just pick the 2 highest ranked teams to play in the game. Ill keep repeating it as much as i have to, i trust that you guys will eventually understand what i mean.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Its not like the rankings are skewed and favor predetermined "favorites" from before the season even began.

Use the BCS then.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Use the BCS then.

Which uses a significant portion of their formula with those exact rankings.

:champ:

 

[NAHSTE]

For the 100th time, i didnt say eliminate divisions, what im saying is just pick the 2 highest ranked teams to play in the game. Ill keep repeating it as much as i have to, i trust that you guys will eventually understand what i mean.

:facepalm:

"Don't eliminate divisions, just completely disregard them"

Use the BCS then.

:rofl:

Aaaaaand we've come full circle.

 

[FirstTimer]

Me: They should keep everything how it is and just pick the 2 highest ranked teams for the conf championship game.

Others: Thats crazy! Thats stupid! They made it like this 20 years ago so thats how it should be!

You: Get rid of the rankigns! The BCS sucks! Playofss ROAR!

You(later): Use rankings to determine who gets into the conference championship game but I still support a more objective playoff system based on rankings! ROAR!



Essentially rankings aren't good enough to alone determine a NC or a NCG, but rankings alone are good enough to determine the game that leads to who plays in that game?!

Nigga you are fucking retarded.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Which uses a significant portion of their formula with those exact rankings.

:champ:

Thats the formula currently used to pick the 2 teams for the national championship game. This thread is full of idiots & assholes.