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Wade Phillips has been fired

I can't see Dungy wanting to work alongside Jerry Jones.

Ditto Cowher. Ditto Gruden. Ditto Holmgren.

Guys like that will require player personnel control.

If Jones was serious about winning (and I actually think he is), he'd just concede it's time to bring in a mastermind and give up his GM job.

All four of the above would be excellent choices. I'd miss Gruden on MNF (I like him).

At the end of the day, if I were Jones I'd likely go Dungy. That said, Holmgren or Cowher wouldn't exactly be bad consolation prizes.
 
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Yeah, I don't see the appeal with Dungy or Cowher. I understand the both of them won a SB and abruptly retired, but it seems to me their absence from the game has caused people to overrate their value. They're both good coaches, but it's not as if they organizations they left declined in their absence. The both of them where beneficiaries of playing in well run organizations.
 
^Not to mention Cowher was known as a playoff stinker up until he won the SB..

I believe no HUGE name coach such as Cowher, Dungy, or Gruden will go to the Boys just because of Jerry Jones and his power just like you saw it didn't work out with Parcells.
 
1. It takes more then hollering at guys. You cant just go from a schlub to a hard ass and think its going to work. Players in that locker room have no respect for Garretts scheme or playcalling. Players on both sides of the ball have been calling him out for 3 years. If they dont respect you ,you can scream until your throat pops wont make a difference.
Remember that PM I sent you a couple months back? He may not be liked, but he is respected in the lockerroom. And the quarterback falls under both categories. As far as not running the ball enough, take a look at that offensive line with its 2.6 YPC average. For all the skill on that offense, they are handicapped by those guys. Have been for 3 years.
2. If he wanted to right the ship he would have benched Barber and given Choice more carries and be smart enough to know his playcalling was hurting the team on both sides.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'm very interested to see how much burn Choice gets against NY.
3. If Jerry was such a bad GM the Cowboys wouldnt be as "talented" as to be such a disappointment. The team is stocked with talent. If a coach is too much of a pansy to get Jones out of the way honestly its on the coach. Jimmy and Bill both managed to do it so it can obviously be done. IMO if its not worth the trouble of doing then its not worth the trouble of coaching.
Again, why has the line been neglected after it was obvious to everyone for three years that it was overrated (100% due to Romo making chicken salad out of chicken shit), old and falling off? What did he do to address it? Robert Brewster and Sam Young? The only reason Free got an opportunity was because of Columbo's broken leg.

Jerry is, and always has been about, flash. The neglect of both lines is on him and only him. We'll draft Patrick Peterson with that nice Top 5 pick. Watch.
 
Well, in Jerrah's defense, there isn't a great O-linemen available this year.. at least the way things are looking.

... and if there's some workout warrior that emerges, that's not exactly a great scenario.
I'm insinuating I'd rather trade down.
 
IMO Peterson would be a good pick for the Cowboys. The Cowboys have had issues in their secondary and you couple that with the fact that within the division you have Hakeem Nix, DeSean Jackson, etc than Peterson makes a good fit. Scandrick isn't much to talk about, Mike Jenkins has had issues this year and Terence Newman is getting up in age. Peterson is a special, special talent.
 
IMO Peterson would be a good pick for the Cowboys. The Cowboys have had issues in their secondary and you couple that with the fact that within the division you have Hakeem Nix, DeSean Jackson, etc than Patterson makes a good fit. Scandrick isn't much to talk about, Mike Jenkins has had issues this year and Terence Newman is getting up in age. Peterson is a special, special talent.

Agreed. I know we need help at OL but we also need a shit ton of help in the secondary. Scandrick sucks, I have been saying it since early last year. Jenkins can't get his head out of his ass and Newman is beginning to age. I don't see how we pass on Peterson if he gets to us, which at this rate he will only have to get by 2 teams.
 
Agreed. I know we need help at OL but we also need a shit ton of help in the secondary. Scandrick sucks, I have been saying it since early last year. Jenkins can't get his head out of his ass and Newman is beginning to age. I don't see how we pass on Peterson if he gets to us, which at this rate he will only have to get by 2 teams.
Look at how bad the technique of those two has been this year. Then look at who's responsible for coaching them.

I think Jenkins and Scandrick can be salvaged. But that can't happen until Bozo the clown gets his walking papers for a second time.
 
I really like(d) Jenkins coming out of USF.

.. but I haven't seen a DB get burned that badly since Ahmad Carroll was lining up in Green Bay.
Look how good he was last year. The talent is most assuredly there. His techniquw this year is night and day.

Same for Scandrick, look at all the plays he's been burned on, what's the constant? He's not playing the ball at all. He never sees it coming and is constantly out of position because of it.
 
Saw that a bit ago. They have not practiced in pads since the abomination that was training camp.

It validates me a bit, but it also disgusts me. Wade said they went "back to basics" last week.

You don't get any more basic than knowing how to tackle.

Also

Bryan Broaddus
First change at Cowboys practice today is Full Pads. Was told this will be every Wednesday from here on out.

Bryan Broaddus
2nd change, the head coach is actually watching special teams practice instead of getting his morning workout.

Todd Archer
First change of Jason Garrett era: players in full pads in practice. Wade Phillips had them in shoulder pads and shorts.

Todd Archer
Jason Garrett involved in special teams drills. Wade Phillips talked w/ players or jogged during session
:rolleyes:
 
Look at how bad the technique of those two has been this year. Then look at who's responsible for coaching them.

I think Jenkins and Scandrick can be salvaged. But that can't happen until Bozo the clown gets his walking papers for a second time.

I don't see the talent or awareness in Scandrick but I guess that is where we differ. I would love to be proven wrong but I just don't see it happening.
 
I think the problem with the team has to do more with discipline than schemes and formations. Though throwing less would definitely be a good idea. I don't think Jones is a bad GM - they have compiled a lot of talent; they just need to build-up the offensive line. :ionno: Nothing new to be said here.

I just wonder how Garrett's going to change anything. And if he fails, who's going to be the end-of-the-year replacement? I'm thinking someone from the college ranks.
 
Confirmed.

I don't find it odd at all. Garrett had the title of Assistant HC/OC but he barely talked to the D at all. He didn't agree with much of the things Wade did or how he ran the team, but he did respect the chain of command and understood no good could come of him undermining him, especially in Dallas where the media is constantly looking for any sign of turmoil.

BTW, more stuff that's coming out that is downright infuriating to me.

Moore: Jason Garrett lets Cowboys know he's not playing around

12:36 AM CST on Thursday, November 11, 2010
COLUMN By DAVID MOORE / The Dallas Morning News
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IRVING – The players didn't have to wait for the first practice under Jason Garrett to realize a difference.

"Let's get moving," Garrett barked as the horn sounded and a group of players sauntered over to stretch. "We're not walking. We're not walking."

The first hint that the head coach is serious when he talks about structure and accountability didn't come earlier in the day at the 8:15 team meeting.

The doors to that meeting, by the way, closed at 8:13 a.m.

No, the Cowboys had a pretty good idea on Tuesday's day off that it would not be business as usual at Valley Ranch. That's when several of them received texts to be at the facility on Wednesday by 6:30 a.m. for a 7 o'clock meeting.

What words come to mind to describe Garrett?

"I don't know if I can say it," receiver Roy Williams responded. "Hard-ass. Hard-butt.

"And I like it."

Subtle and significant changes were evident Wednesday as the players returned to work for the first time since the dismissal of Wade Phillips. Garrett set the tone for this 1-7 team and let everyone know what is expected over the final eight weeks of the regular season.

Players practiced in full pads for the first time since training camp. They are expected to run from one drill to the next, not walk or jog. Defensive end Stephen Bowen noted none of the players had time to sit on the water cooler during practice as they have in the past.

There were no card games during the team's afternoon break, no domino marathons as there have been all season.


"For me, it was good just the way he came in there and took charge," linebacker Anthony Spencer said. "The things he was saying, the things he wants to get done. He got straight to the point.

"That's definitely what we need now."

Phillips is more conversational and often relied on relationships to make his point. Garrett's approach is more business-like. That came across as he outlined his plan in the team meeting.

Cornerback Mike Jenkins brought a notebook to the meeting for the first time since his rookie season to take down what Garrett had to say.
"There is zero gray area there," linebacker Keith Brooking said. "It is black and white. Very direct and to the point. No misunderstanding.

"I've been hit in the head a lot, but I could understand what he is saying when he stood up there and communicated to our football team. I believe in anybody like that."

Tight end Jason Witten has always said that Garrett does a great job of living in the now and moving forward. Everything points forward. There is no time for reflection. Not with the players, not with the media.

Garrett's afternoon news conference was a lightning round. He gave a brief opening statement, then answered 38 questions in less than 14 minutes.

Emotions? He's excited about the opportunity.

Lineup changes? Garrett won't talk about them. But he did let the team know it doesn't matter, "whether they're Pro Bowl players, drafted players or undrafted free agents. We're going to play the best guys."

His sideline routine now that he's offensive coordinator and head coach? It will be different.

How is he different from Phillips? Garrett isn't interested in comparisons. The New York Giants will be at the Meadowlands on 4:15 Sunday afternoon (3:15 central), and they're a good football team.

The whirlwind of the last 48 hours? Did you not hear Garrett say the Giants will be waiting for them at 4:15 Sunday afternoon in the Meadowlands?

"We've got to go," Garrett said. "The Giants don't care about this coaching change. The Giants are getting ready to play on Sunday afternoon."

Would that be 4:15 Sunday afternoon?

"It's a new day for me," Jenkins said. "It's a new day for everybody. It's a new coach, a new start.

"We are going to run with it."
WTF was this idiot doing conducting practices like that? This is basic shit! Training camp stuff! Where was the attention to detail? Where was the consistency?

It's no wonder the team had no sense of urgency about it. It has to be a small miracle shit didn't completely fall apart sooner.
 
It's no wonder the team had no sense of urgency about it. It has to be a small miracle shit didn't completely fall apart sooner.

Everyone likes the change in philosophy until it stops working. We'll see how they finish out the season. That'll determine entirely whether or not he's retained, I think.

But you're right. There shouldn't be a sense of lackadaisical-ness in practice. Maybe they don't need to sprint between every drill, but it beats the hell out of walking.

In any case, I certainly can't imagine them doing any worse under Garrett than they have under Phillips. Should be fun to watch. And here I was hoping they would fall out of the media spotlight. Oh well! =P
 
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