What does Chris Johnson have to do to get in the MVP discussion?

[Bear Pand]

Chris Johnson is a lock for OPOY.

Break a rushing record (or get extremely close) and make the playoffs and he has a legitimate shot at the MVP.

 

[St. Francisco]

I'll tell you what he needs to do...pick a different year to excel. Guys like Chris Johnson and Matt Schaub are being overshadowed right now by the killer play of Favre, Brees, and Manning. Here's how I see the MVP race right now.

1. Brett Favre
2. Drew Brees
3a. Chris Johnson
3b. Peyton Manning

In order to even have a chance, I think C.J. needs to break Dickerson's single-season rushing record.

I hate the QB favoritism

It's not QB favoritism you jackass...they're just that good this year.

 

[NAHSTE]

MVP titles are for the Most Valuable Player to their team. Imagine the Titans without Chris Johnson. They would be HORRIBLE. Same with the Colts and Saints though. It should be between CJ, Brees, and Manning with Manning (i mean Brees) of course winning it all.

This is incorrect. It's the League Most Valuable Player award not the Most Valuable to their Team award. If that were the case, you could argue nearly any star player who has ever been hurt. Carson Palmer, for instance, is as valuable to his team's success as Peyton Manning or Drew Brees is to theirs.

 

[Len B]

Chris Johnson will win MVP... of fantasy leagues

Dude has carried me this season and I <3'ed taking him 5th overall, ahead of people like LT/DeAngelo Williams/Brian Westbrook

 

[Berowsk]

This is incorrect. It's the League Most Valuable Player award not the Most Valuable to their Team award. If that were the case, you could argue nearly any star player who has ever been hurt. Carson Palmer, for instance, is as valuable to his team's success as Peyton Manning or Drew Brees is to theirs.

So he should be considered. That's why there's a separate award for OPOTY and DPOTY.

 

[Tailback U]

Even then, look at his numbers.. he was expected to be the caretaker and just hand the ball off to AD. Instead, he's carrying this Vikings team right now.

24 TD's and 3 picks is unheard of for ANY QB.. much less a 40 year old.

24 TDs and 3 INT's is not unheard of. 2,000+ rushing yards is.

What Favre, Manning, and Brees are doing has been done before. Hell, it's done every single season.

Only 3 players in the history of the NFL have ever rushed for over 2,000 yards in a season.

Chris Johnson deserves the MVP if he breaks 2,000 yards. The fact that he can do it while being on a team that started 0-6 is even more impressive.

 

[Juggernaut]

24 TDs and 3 INT's is not unheard of. 2,000+ rushing yards is.

What Favre, Manning, and Brees are doing has been done before. Hell, it's done every single season.

Only 3 players in the history of the NFL have ever rushed for over 2,000 yards in a season.

Chris Johnson deserves the MVP if he breaks 2,000 yards. The fact that he can do it while being on a team that started 0-6 is even more impressive.

What other QBs have ever had a 24 tds and 3 ints through week 12?

too lazy to search but i doubt its been done that many times, and definitely not by a 40 yr old

 

[Archer]

If his team makes the playoffs he has a legit shot .... if not then he won't stand a chance and I don't really blame them .

I would be "iffy" about giving MVP to somebody who couldn't even get to the post season (I don't care if it was your fault or not)

 

[Tailback U]

What other QBs have ever had a 24 tds and 3 ints through week 12?

too lazy to search but i doubt its been done that many times, and definitely not by a 40 yr old

I can't find that stat specifically but this season Favre's QB Rating is 112.1. That ranks 4th all time.

No doubt Favre is playing incredible and his TD to INT ratio right now is amazing, but I think rushing for over 2,000 yards is more impressive as a whole.

 

[dave]

If the Titans make the playoffs, Johnson should get it.

Favre has Adrian Peterson, which makes him a better quarterback. That's not to say he isn't having an incredible season, he is, but what Johnson is doing is unreal.

Frankly, I wouldn't even pick Favre over Peyton Manning.

 

[Archer]

I can't find that stat specifically but this season Favre's QB Rating is 112.1. That ranks 4th all time.

No doubt Favre is playing incredible and his TD to INT ratio right now is amazing, but I think rushing for over 2,000 yards is more impressive as a whole.

Not to take anything away from Favre but ....

Teams game plan to stop Johnson on the Titans

Teams game plan to stop AP on the Vikings

Facing single coverage while teams are loading up the box to stop AP does make Favres job alot easier .

 

[Deviant]

24 TDs and 3 INT's is not unheard of. 2,000+ rushing yards is.

What Favre, Manning, and Brees are doing has been done before. Hell, it's done every single season.

Only 3 players in the history of the NFL have ever rushed for over 2,000 yards in a season.

Chris Johnson deserves the MVP if he breaks 2,000 yards. The fact that he can do it while being on a team that started 0-6 is even more impressive.

Wrong. Done by five different players: Eric Dickerson, Terrell Davis, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, and (I think I might be wrong about this) O.J. Simpson. Only Sanders and Davis won the MVP and I think Sanders was shared, funny enough, by Favre.

If he breaks 2,000, he deserves Offensive Player of the Year, NOT MVP. Jamal Lewis didn't win it and Dickerson (the record holder) didn't win it either. The team's record or start doesn't make CJ's accomplishments any more impressive.

I still believe the MVP is Peyton Manning. I'm having difficulty giving it to Favre or Brees because they're both backed by two of the best running games in the NFL. All three QBs have been back by amazing defensive play as well, but the Colts just don't have the running attack that the Vikings or Saints have, which is why I can't just say that Favre or Brees are the MVP.

 

[NAHSTE]

24 TDs and 3 INT's is not unheard of. 2,000+ rushing yards is.

What Favre, Manning, and Brees are doing has been done before. Hell, it's done every single season.

Actually, it is unheard of.

Favre's TD-INT ratio would go down as the 2nd greatest of all time.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4704168&name=schefter_adam

A: Think a lot of people have been waiting for the bottom to fall out for a while now, Shaun. But to that, I give you this: Favre now has 24 touchdown passes and still only three interceptions -- an 8-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Through 11 games, the 8-1 TD-INT ratio is the second-best in NFL history. Only six quarterbacks have ever had a TD-INT ratio above 4 for a season. So basically, and amazingly, Favre now has the chance to have the greatest TD-INT ratio in NFL history -- one more record for him.

The quarterbacks all-time with a 4.0-plus TD-INT ratio for an entire season with a minimum of 20 TD passes:

PLAYER TEAM YEAR TD/INT RATIO
Tom Brady New England 2007 6.25 (50 TDs, 8 INTs)
Steve DeBerg Kansas City 1990 5.75 (23 TDs, 4 INTs)
Peyton Manning Indianapolis 2004 4.90 (49 TDs, 10 INTs)
Steve Bartkowski Atlanta 1983 4.40 (22 TDs, 5 INTs)
Milt Plum Cleveland 1960 4.20 (21 TDs, 5 INTs)
Vinny Testaverde New York Jets 1998 4.14 (29 TDs, 7 INTs)
Based on that, don't know that the bottom is going to be falling out anytime soon.

 

[Tailback U]

Wrong. Done by five different players: Eric Dickerson, Terrell Davis, Jamal Lewis, Barry Sanders, and (I think I might be wrong about this) O.J. Simpson. Only Sanders and Davis won the MVP and I think Sanders was shared, funny enough, by Favre.

I knew it was 5 but when I checked here: http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/indiv/rushing, only the top 3 were listed. My mistake.

If he breaks 2,000, he deserves Offensive Player of the Year, NOT MVP. Jamal Lewis didn't win it and Dickerson (the record holder) didn't win it either. The team's record or start doesn't make CJ's accomplishments any more impressive.

That's like saying the Vikings record or Favre's age shouldn't make his accomplishments any more impressive.

I still believe the MVP is Peyton Manning. I'm having difficulty giving it to Favre or Brees because they're both backed by two of the best running games in the NFL. All three QBs have been back by amazing defensive play as well, but the Colts just don't have the running attack that the Vikings or Saints have, which is why I can't just say that Favre or Brees are the MVP.

I understand what you're saying but in that case Peyton Manning should be named MVP pretty much every single year.

I'm not saying Johnson should be named MVP just yet, but the fact that he isn't even being mentioned in most circles is disappointing.

 

[Tailback U]

Actually, it is unheard of.

Favre's TD-INT ratio would go down as the 2nd greatest of all time.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4704168&name=schefter_adam

We've seen QBs, especially since today's rules favor the passing game, post some amazing TD-INT ratios.

While his TD-INT ratio is incredible, it shouldn't be alone be enough to give him the MVP.

Drew Brees has more yards, more TDs, basically the same completion percentage, and a higher QB rating (112.6).

Manning has as many TDs, 1% higher completion, nearly 600 more yards, and a QB Rating of 102.5.

Again, while Favre is having an amazing season and I wouldn't mind if he was named MVP, the top quarterbacks have incredible statistics year in and year out nowadays.

What Chris Johnson is doing is rare. It is special to be able to watch a guy rush for over 2,000 yards in a season. Watching a guy post a 24-3 TD/INT ratio just isn't as special.

 

[Newkie]

Only 3 players in the history of the NFL have ever rushed for over 2,000 yards in a season.

Chris Johnson deserves the MVP if he breaks 2,000 yards. The fact that he can do it while being on a team that started 0-6 is even more impressive.

Brees threw for more than 5,000 yards last season. Only the second player in NFL history to do that, and it was just as impressive to watch as a 2,000-yard rusher.

But the Saints' defense was poo, and they didn't make the playoffs, so Brees didn't get the MVP.

If Johnson's production stays at this level, and Tennessee makes the playoffs, I'm all for him getting the MVP award. If they don't make the playoffs? Tough. One of the three QBs will get it, and it will be well-deserved.

Lots of huge impact players this season.

 

[Irish]

Darren McFadden
Jonathan Stewart
Felix Jones
Rashard Mendenhall

All got drafted ahead of Chris Johnson. And on draft day i was upset because i thought they reached for a guy with just a good 40 time and would probably just return kicks because they needed an offensive weapon.

BOY WAS I WRONG ON THAT ONE.

 

[Woy]

Darren McFadden
Jonathan Stewart
Felix Jones
Rashard Mendenhall

All got drafted ahead of Chris Johnson. And on draft day i was upset because i thought they reached for a guy with just a good 40 time and would probably just return kicks because they needed an offensive weapon.

BOY WAS I WRONG ON THAT ONE.

I felt the exact same way, surprisingly. I absolutely hated the pick.

 

[steeljake]

CJ has 3 80 plus yard td's this year... no other back has that many in their career, let alone one year. Teams are putting everyone up to stop him and he still gets his yards. Peyton is always going to be in teh running for MVP, he is the Colts. Favre is having a great year but it is due in part to the single coverage he sees (and you cant tell me 20 years nfl qb experience doesnt make that like shooting fish in a barrel for him) thanks to AP and the burners he has at wide out. Out of those two, AP and Favre, I think AP should get the nod for MVP over Favre becasue Favre does what he does becasue of AP.

CJ is beasting and if he is not doing his work, does VY lead this team to 5 in a row? I doubt it. The only hit on CJ is where was he while they were losing? He is in the mix for mvp, he has to be due to his insane numbers, but never forget what the mvp means. It is not the best player in the league, it is the most valuable player, meaning that without that person what would that team be? Without Peyton the Colts would be 8-8 at best.

 

[Tengo Juego]

Rodgers is currently at 22 TD and 5 Int
Rivers 19 TD 6 Int
Brady 20 TD and 8 Int
Brees 27 TD and 9 Int

Favre's stats aren't "unheard" of. Just shocking with his interception prone-ness in the past.