What Gives, adem?

[killgod]

im pretty sure most would have called bullshit or been skeptical he said madden 10 would have 9 man piles/gang tackling way back..

I almost think it would have had a better effect had they told us before this was coming.....let us call bullshit....then proved us wrong.


But their marketing team has already proved borderline retardation with that rookie mode trailer of awfulness.

 

[Tailback U]

I think some of you are underestimating the importance and coolness of the Pro Tak system.

It is going to literally change the feel of the entire game because every player on the field can literally change the flow and direction of every single play. It means increased player detection and awareness and will making tackling much more realistic.

 

[Rush]

Honestly, I can't remember many times when it took 9 guys to make the tackle. 3 or 4, maybe 5 but never 9.

Watch the Broncos defense..

 

[Nukleopatra]

I don't consider the info so far as ''small things.'' Hell, I'd list a few of them ahead of the tackling shit.

The new ratings, which help slow the game down, has been needed for years. The game has always played too damn fast, which completely ruined the previous game. And if they still managed to screw the game speed up, they added a game speed slider, which is also a nice feature. The new team also corrected one of the biggest goofs in Madden history - The removal of CPU sliders.

Adaptive AI - Assumning this actually works.... and I have my doubts.. This is the biggest feature in my eyes. Certainly blows the hell out of some lame ass nine man gang tackling.

Two features I have been begging for, for many many years. I just hope enough time has been spent on the features, to have them working correctly.

 

[Saluki]

You guys are seriously underestimating how pro-tak will change this game. Not just tackling, or pushing the pile or fighting for fumbles. This changes how every single player on the field interacts with each other. It enables the offensive and defensive lines to interact in a much more realistic way creating an actual pocket, it allows for a QB to still be able to throw the ball even as he's going down to the ground instead of just tucking it soon as he's touched like in every other madden, and im sure it impacts the game in other ways that they just haven't mentioned yet.

 

[jaggles82]

ea is a letdown indeed

 

[Nukleopatra]

How are they a let down this year? They're adding in everything we're asking for. A lot of it is small shit, but that's not EAs fault.. You people are so high on crappy shit like hand towels, it's almost laughable.

I've personally asked for the following....

Adaptive AI - Added.
Slower game play - Added.
CPU Sliders - Added.

Now, if those things don't work the way some of us expect them to work, I'll agree with you. And I'll be honest, I expect the worst, especially with Adaptive AI.. It's far too good to be true.

 

[Maynard]

Honestly, I can't remember many times when it took 9 guys to make the tackle. 3 or 4, maybe 5 but never 9.

no shit.....it doesnt take 9 guys to gang tackle 1 guy. one guy could break several tackles, but it never takes that many to bring someone down.

I can see it now.....EA will fuck it up and now on every tackle you will see 9 guys diving on the pile......maybe doing this will make the tackle stats be correct.......of course tackles dont mean shit when the CPU cant run the ball and then throws is 40 times a game

Adembroski really doesn't deserve all the shit he's taking. He didn't have to come in here a fill us all in on anything. He was kind enough to come in and fill us in on the things he saw. No one forced him to do it. Should just be thankful for what information he does give us. It's not like he has the authority to change what announcements are being made.

totally disagree.....there is nothing wrong with adem posting info or even saying new info will be out soon.....and nobody is giving him shit for the info he posted......he is getting shit for over hyping that info. And he deserves it......you wanna play reporter, then just report the info without the hype and let people decide for themselves what is great and what isnt

 

[Maynard]

How are they a let down this year? They're adding in everything we're asking for. A lot of it is small shit, but that's not EAs fault.. You people are so high on crappy shit like hand towels, it's almost laughable.

I've personally asked for the following....

Adaptive AI - Added.
Slower game play - Added.
CPU Sliders - Added.

Now, if those things don't work the way some of us expect them to work, I'll agree with you. And I'll be honest, I expect the worst, especially with Adaptive AI.. It's far too good to be true.

you have got to be kidding.....

adaptive ai has been something EA said was in the game the past couple of years.....there whole, u run the same play the defense will start to recognize your tendencies and the AI will Adapt to stop those money plays......did we all forget this?

cpu sliders.....cmon....this has been in madden since sliders were created.....how is this new?

slower gameplay.....OMG! does anyone remember madden when it felt like players were running in mud

you guys are fooling yourself if your buying into the hype EA has created yet again.....oh, but this year they are doing this and doing that.....oh, look what they are adding.......
they have been saying and doing all these things for the past 10 years......

and since someone you are so quick to forget.....2 words

DAVID ORTIZ

 

[Nukleopatra]

you guys are fooling yourself if your buying into the hype EA has created yet again.....oh, but this year they are doing this and doing that.....oh, look what they are adding.......
they have been saying and doing all these things for the past 10 years.....

Different team.

I'm pumped.. Don't really give a fuck what you think.

 

[Tailback U]

you have got to be kidding.....

adaptive ai has been something EA said was in the game the past couple of years.....there whole, u run the same play the defense will start to recognize your tendencies and the AI will Adapt to stop those money plays......did we all forget this?

cpu sliders.....cmon....this has been in madden since sliders were created.....how is this new?

slower gameplay.....OMG! does anyone remember madden when it felt like players were running in mud

you guys are fooling yourself if your buying into the hype EA has created yet again.....oh, but this year they are doing this and doing that.....oh, look what they are adding.......
they have been saying and doing all these things for the past 10 years......

and since someone you are so quick to forget.....2 words

DAVID ORTIZ

If you can't see the drastic change in attitude and additions to the game that EA has already made then you are a big time hater.

Do all of the additions mean that the game is going to be awesome? Not necessarily, but the change in attitude and effort is clear and something to be thankful for.

 

[Maynard]

Different team.

I'm pumped.. Don't really give a fuck what you think.

thats cause your an idiot.....wasnt Ian part of last years team,,,,whoops

oh i forgot, they are adding cpu slider.....moron

If you can't see the drastic change in attitude and additions to the game that EA has already made then you are a big time hater.

Do all of the additions mean that the game is going to be awesome? Not necessarily, but the change in attitude and effort is clear and something to be thankful for.

you are right.....i am a big time hater....this game has sucked my ass for years.
they bring in a new team every year with the same great attitude,,,,take your blinders off my friend because their attitude is all part of getting you to buy the game once again....the same game that has major issues and unrealistic gameplay every year

i could get pumped for this game, only if they brought in MLB the Show developers....they know how to make a quality game

 

[adembroski]

People have been crying over the perception that 2k5 had 3 man tackles (it didn't), and they bitch and moan about EA's tackling system for ever, EA finally creates something that, you cannot deny, utterly destroys anything done in a football game to date, and of course you say I'm over hyping it.

Eat me. You haven't seen it in action, you've only seen the lame "everyone stand in a circle and stomp around a bit" crap that the marketing department decided to use, for god knows what reason.

I have taken Brandon Jacobs around the edge and saw a nice 190 lb DB to run over, only to have him hang on for dear life until a linebacker showed up to clean it up. I have driven toward the goalline knowing I'm going to bowl over those two guys at the line, only to have a third grab me from behind and pull me back and prevent the score.

Call me "overhyping' if you want, but at least wait until you've actually used it first. As far as I'm concerned, it's the biggest and most important innovation in football gaming history, by a very wide margin.

As for Madden 10 in general: I'll be very candid... while I love their passion and direction, I don't know if they've got the skills to finish it. They've bitten off far more than any previous Madden team has, and that's a testimate to their ambition of course, but will they be able to deliver in the time alotted is the question. I'm praying for a bug free game, but it's not going to happen. There's gonna end up being this glitch or that that screws things up. I'm just hoping to god it's not a game killer, but I am very concerned.

The difference is, if there is one, I'm fairly certain it'll be patched. These guys have some professional pride, and once we get our hands on it, it'll be Community Day times several hundred thousand. I look forward more to seeing this game in September than I do August.

 

[krulmichael]

People have been crying over the perception that 2k5 had 3 man tackles (it didn't), and they bitch and moan about EA's tackling system for ever, EA finally creates something that, you cannot deny, utterly destroys anything done in a football game to date, and of course you say I'm over hyping it.

Eat me. You haven't seen it in action, you've only seen the lame "everyone stand in a circle and stomp around a bit" crap that the marketing department decided to use, for god knows what reason.

I have taken Brandon Jacobs around the edge and saw a nice 190 lb DB to run over, only to have him hang on for dear life until a linebacker showed up to clean it up. I have driven toward the goalline knowing I'm going to bowl over those two guys at the line, only to have a third grab me from behind and pull me back and prevent the score.

Call me "overhyping' if you want, but at least wait until you've actually used it first. As far as I'm concerned, it's the biggest and most important innovation in football gaming history, by a very wide margin.

As for Madden 10 in general: I'll be very candid... while I love their passion and direction, I don't know if they've got the skills to finish it. They've bitten off far more than any previous Madden team has, and that's a testimate to their ambition of course, but will they be able to deliver in the time alotted is the question. I'm praying for a bug free game, but it's not going to happen. There's gonna end up being this glitch or that that screws things up. I'm just hoping to god it's not a game killer, but I am very concerned.

The difference is, if there is one, I'm fairly certain it'll be patched. These guys have some professional pride, and once we get our hands on it, it'll be Community Day times several hundred thousand. I look forward more to seeing this game in September than I do August.

Fight the power Adem! I'm actually very excited for the Pro Tak feature, I just hope that it's not like 95% of the tackles have to be assisted and there's still a good amount of solo tackles as well.

 

[Maynard]

alot of sandy vag going on at the vsn today.....im sure the feature itself is as you described.....i will go ahead an assume its as great as u said it is......but even still, for most people reading your post about this great new feature that is HUGE and the best thing ever.....it was a HUGE let down

no offense, but thats why people are bitching.....u wanna play lois lane then just report the info.....when u add your feelings u open yourself up to criticism.....so dont be bitter u sandy vag

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

People have been crying over the perception that 2k5 had 3 man tackles (it didn't), and they bitch and moan about EA's tackling system for ever, EA finally creates something that, you cannot deny, utterly destroys anything done in a football game to date, and of course you say I'm over hyping it.

Eat me. You haven't seen it in action, you've only seen the lame "everyone stand in a circle and stomp around a bit" crap that the marketing department decided to use, for god knows what reason.

I have taken Brandon Jacobs around the edge and saw a nice 190 lb DB to run over, only to have him hang on for dear life until a linebacker showed up to clean it up. I have driven toward the goalline knowing I'm going to bowl over those two guys at the line, only to have a third grab me from behind and pull me back and prevent the score.

Call me "overhyping' if you want, but at least wait until you've actually used it first. As far as I'm concerned, it's the biggest and most important innovation in football gaming history, by a very wide margin.

As for Madden 10 in general: I'll be very candid... while I love their passion and direction, I don't know if they've got the skills to finish it. They've bitten off far more than any previous Madden team has, and that's a testimate to their ambition of course, but will they be able to deliver in the time alotted is the question. I'm praying for a bug free game, but it's not going to happen. There's gonna end up being this glitch or that that screws things up. I'm just hoping to god it's not a game killer, but I am very concerned.

The difference is, if there is one, I'm fairly certain it'll be patched. These guys have some professional pride, and once we get our hands on it, it'll be Community Day times several hundred thousand. I look forward more to seeing this game in September than I do August.

To be brutally honest, adem, this post is similar to every "don't call for my head when you haven't played it yet" post that has reared its ugly head for the past...5, 6...years that ended up looking silly in retrospect after everyone actually played the game for a few weeks-month.

 

[adembroski]

alot of sandy vag going on at the vsn today.....im sure the feature itself is as you described.....i will go ahead an assume its as great as u said it is......but even still, for most people reading your post about this great new feature that is HUGE and the best thing ever.....it was a HUGE let down

no offense, but thats why people are bitching.....u wanna play lois lane then just report the info.....when u add your feelings u open yourself up to criticism.....so dont be bitter u sandy vag

I'll opine all I want. If you don't appreciate the depth of this, I don't give a damn.

To be brutally honest, adem, this post is similar to every "don't call for my head when you haven't played it yet" post that has reared its ugly head for the past...5, 6...years that ended up looking silly in retrospect after everyone actually played the game for a few weeks-month.

I didn't say 'don't call for my head'. I said 'don't damn it until you've played it'. I wasn't implying everyone's gonna be gaga over it, and you can't read that into the post you quoted... I said wait and see.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2wjq7GGic&feature=channel[/media] thats for you adem.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoCFfJ1Wul8&feature=channel[/media]

And you'll be embarassed to have posted these in comparison to Pro-Tak.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I'll opine all I want. If you don't appreciate the depth of this, I don't give a damn.



I didn't say 'don't call for my head'. I said 'don't damn it until you've played it'. I wasn't implying everyone's gonna be gaga over it, and you can't read that into the post you quoted... I said wait and see.





And you'll be embarassed to have posted these in comparison to Pro-Tak.

All I can say to that is, don't act surprised when people come questioning you. I happen to remember a lot of "omg, don't knock *random new feature* until you try it" by many who have come before you and they all looked incredibly stupid after.

I would love to see Madden be a good game again, but just don't act surprised when people question you when you come with claims like this, that is all I am saying. At this point, I'd assume most are basically saying to themselves "second verse, same as the first"...

 

[adembroski]

does pro tak have all new passing mechanics and running?????!!!!

Pro Tak is a tackling system, not a passing or running system.

All I can say to that is, don't act surprised when people come questioning you. I happen to remember a lot of "omg, don't knock *random new feature* until you try it" by many who have come before you and they all looked incredibly stupid after.

I would love to see Madden be a good game again, but just don't act surprised when people question you when you come with claims like this, that is all I am saying. At this point, I'd assume most are basically saying to themselves "second verse, same as the first"...

I'm not the least bit surprised... I've gotten plenty of it long before anybody on here decided to call me out... the difference is I have to calmly take it and smile at OS. Here I can hit back. Some of that was my frustration with the kiddies over at OS like Coach Ruckus and the like being just childish about it.

If you feel justified calling me out, then I feel justified fighting back. Simple as that. So we have a difference of opinion... am I supposed to temper my excitement for the sake of your feelings? Do I have to pretend Madden 10 blows ass so you wont be disappointed when it's not 100% perfect? It's not my job to moderate your emotions. I'm not a reporter, I'm not media, I'm a football fan who wants a great game and feels we're getting one. If you chose not to believe that or have different priorities than I do (ie you don't feel that dynamic gang tackling is a fundamental necessity in a football game), then take my posts on the game with a grain of salt and move on. Don't ask me to be the one who's responsible for your excitement of disappointment with the game.

In other words, if you're disappointed in Pro-Tak, it's not my problem.

 

[Sven Draconian]

I'm curious what exactly would be an exciting new feature if 9 man gang tackles isn't it? Irregardless of what Adem thinks about the gae or about any let downs in the past...there aren't that many features to add to the game at this point that would be exciting.

He had clearly mentioned it wasn't online related (IE, no online franchise) and we had already learned about the improved pocket for passing.

Madden 10 upgraded from 3 man tackles to 9. Sure, it could be broken and it doesn't fix everything, but that's a pretty big feature IMHO.