Whitlock tears up Iverson

[bucky]

Stackhouses play contributes the same effect.

It's easier to be successful with a shooting guard having that kind of playing style then it is with a point guard with the same playing style. It really takes away from the efficiency of a team to have a point guard with that same playing style.

Stack and AI have very similar offensive games early in their careers and in many ways a similar attitude. To blame AI alone for Stack being traded by Philly is a big leap. There is plenty of blame to go around to all three spots.

True. I think Philly's front office was nuts for drafting AI. I agree with ya that they (the front office) share in the blame for Philly's lack of success.

Philly KNEW THIS when they drafted him. AI was a scoring guard in college. What did they think they were getting? Again that's why I point to the ineptness of the 76ers front office.

I agree. Philly was nuts for drafting him.

We don't know that. AI was on the downside of his career when the 76ers shipped him out. Who knows how he would have responded to actual complimentar players in his prime?

AI drove away good coaches too. I really believe Coach Brown left because he knew you can't win in Philly with AI. You can find better Coaches than Coach Brown, but he is one of the best.

BS. Iverson always wanted to win. He'd do everything in his power to win. I remember for years people bashing against the GM of Philly for not making any moves and even tension between AI and King because King was content to stand pat with guys like Eric Snow.

If AI really wanted to win a championship, he wouldn't be forcing team's to change in order to fit his playing style. He would be changing his playing style according to what that team needs from him in order to make the team better. Either he doesn't want to win as badly as you think, or he doesn't know how to.

 

[FirstTimer]

It's easier to be successful with a shooting guard having that kind of playing style then it is with a point guard with the same playing style. It really takes away from the efficiency of a team to have a point guard with that same playing style.

AI was moved to essentially the SG position when they brought in Eric Snow. And if it's so obvious it's easier to succeed while having a SG playing that style and not a PG why the hell would Philly draft AI when they already have Stackhouse?

True. I think Philly's front office was nuts for drafting AI. I agree with ya that they (the front office) share in the blame for Philly's lack of success.



I agree. Philly was nuts for drafting him.

See above.

AI drove away good coaches too. I really believe Coach Brown left because he knew you can't win in Philly with AI. You can find better Coaches than Coach Brown, but he is one of the best.

Philly almost won with Brown and AI. But Brown als knows you need more than one player to win a title. Philly never ahd that and never really tried to get that.

If AI really wanted to win a championship, he wouldn't be forcing team's to change in order to fit his playing style. He would be changing his playing style according to what that team needs from him in order to make the team better. Either he doesn't want to win as badly as you think, or he doesn't know how to.

Again, i think this is reverese. They brough AI in to be a certain type of player. They knew what they were getting when they drafted him. AI never forced Philly to change any style. Philly bought into AI's style enough to draft him. When you draft a fracnhise guy like AI you say he's teh leader he's the guy he's the answer and build around his style.

 

[bucky]

FT,

We are gonna agree on some things and disagree on others when it comes to AI, but that's OK. That's what discussions are all about.

There are many players I would take before AI. Players that are not as physically gifted as he is. And I still believe you end up with a better team. From his first year in the league I've had the same opinion of him and I have not seen anything that would change it. In fact, his style of play and his attitude during press conferences have only reinforced my view.

I used the Sidney Moncrief example earlier. Sydney is not in AI's class when talking about Physical Gifts. Yet I would take Moncrief in a heartbeat over AI. We were really fortunate having Moncrief in Milwaukee. He did EVERYTHING well, including sharing the court with teammates.

 

[dell71]

Nice bringing up Moncrief. I used to enjoy watching him play.

 

[Senser81]

Who cares about Moncrief. If I were a GM starting a team from scratch, I'd take Paul Mokeski over Allen Iverson...

 

[bucky]

Who cares about Moncrief. If I were a GM starting a team from scratch, I'd take Paul Mokeski over Allen Iverson...

I remember him. He actually had a OK medium range shot. And ya, who cares about that Moncrief guy when you have Paul M. on your team!!!!:happy:

 

[dell71]

Who cares about Moncrief. If I were a GM starting a team from scratch, I'd take Paul Mokeski over Allen Iverson...

Wow, I had forgotten about that dude.

 

[Esjay]

Whitlock is still a douche bag. What does Tupac have to do with this? LOL

Iverson played harder than just about anybody not named Michael Jordan. I'm convinced if the Sixers ever had a real LEGIT #2 he would have taken them to the finals more than once.

And no 35 year old Chris Webber, Glenn Robinson (gag me), and Jerry Stackhouse don't count.

 

[Hasselbeck]

All this article proves is Whitlock is still a freakin tool.