Who do you think is the best quarterback in college football?

[Woy]

Paul Jones.
























Seriously though, I like Luck or Locker.

 

[SuperKevin]

I fail for not including a poll but honestly I expected too many different answers to put a poll

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Kellen Moore by far. Most accurate quarterback I've seen in a long time.

 

[Chadman]

he fails at passing the ball.

 

[Sportsbuck]

he used to fail at passing the ball.

Fixed.

 

[Chadman]

Fixed.

he still fails at passing the ball and reading coverages.

wtf 22 sacks as a sophmore and as a mobile qb? 21 sacks his freshman year. 56.6 completion percentage? 18 tds...11 ints? No more than 300 passing yards in a single game? 7.10 yards per throw? And those little numbers he dose have..is against shit teams.

44.4 completion percentage vs usc
38.5 vs wisconsin
47.1 vs penn state.

Yuck. He still cant pass. If he knows whats best for him..he better stay untill he is a senior if he wants to have a legit shot in the NFL. If not...hes the next black scrambling qb to not do shit...as an actual QB.

if you think that sounds bad..try watching him pass the ball from the pocket and in game. he has no since of timing in the passing game, accuracy, and for being touted for having a big arm..rarely do you see that big arm in action.

 

[Sportsbuck]

wtf 22 sacks as a sophmore and as a mobile qb
21 sacks his freshman year. 56.6 completion percentage? 18 tds...11 ints? No more than 300 passing yards in a single game? 7.10 yards per throw?

1st game-Purdue(7gms): 89/159 (56.0%), 1169 yards, 10 TD, 8 INT; Rushing: 86 attempts, 367 yards (4.3 YPC), 4 TD's
Post-Purdue(6gms): 78/136 (57.4%), 925 yards, 8 TD's, 3 INT; Rushing: 76 attempts, 412 yards (5.4 YPC), 3 TD's

Pryor definately improved as the season went on, culminating in his Rose Bowl performance against Oregon.

44.4 completion percentage vs usc
38.5 vs wisconsin

No doubt, USC game he was a disaster.
Wisconsin was kind of meh, we started off the 2nd half with a pick-6 and KR for a TD and the offense was bascially shut down after that since that gave us a sizeable lead. He didn't really play well, but he didn't really have to at that point.

47.1 vs penn state.

Pryor actually had 2 bubble screens that were counted as runs... not that it really makes much of a difference only bringing it up to 52%.

Yuck. He still cant pass. If he knows whats best for him..he better stay untill he is a senior if he wants to have a legit shot in the NFL. If not...hes the next black scrambling qb to not do shit...as an actual QB.

Unless he develops into the second coming of Peyton Manning next year he'll be a four year player.

if you think that sounds bad..try watching him pass the ball from the pocket and in game. he has no since of timing in the passing game, accuracy, and for being touted for having a big arm..rarely do you see that big arm in action.

Did you even watch the Rose Bowl? Pryor was a completely different QB, that was painfully obvious for all to see, against a defense ranked in the top 25 in the nation in passing efficiency. He was reading defenses much better, hitting Saine up the sideline against a Cover 2, throwing a dart to Posey right as he made his cut on a slant against a cover 2 inside the corner, multiple backshoulder fades to Posey against tight man to man coverage, etc., finding Dane right away against a 0 blitz, I could go on.

The biggest difference with Pryor as the season wore on was a schmatic one from JT and the staff. Early in the year he really didn't have a running game backing him up, and for the most part our "running" game consisted of zone reads with Pryor out of the gun, and then there was the Purdue disaster. After that, JT went to a much more pro-style attack, and gave Pryor that running game he needed (We put up over 200 yards on the ground against such stout defenses as Penn State and Iowa), allowing him to grow as a passer as the defenses couldn't key on him completely. The bowl practices is where he grew the most though... the difference from the USC game to Penn State or Iowa was already significant, but it was night and day from Michigan to the Rose Bowl.

He had a great spring. We return 9 starters on offense (It's basically 10 since Mike Adams started 3-4 games last year). The only player of any significance we lose is Jake Ballard, and Jake Stoneburner is an upgrade in the passing game at TE over him (Although we are losing something in terms of blocking). His top 2 targets are back... we have an stable of talented backs... chances are he's going to have a pretty good year and he'll continue to grow as a passer.

I feel like this year, Pryor will continue his growth and have a good season. He won't put up Heisman numbers, but I'm expecting something along the lines of 60-61% completion, 2500-2700 yards, 23-25 TD's and 5-8 INT.

 

[Senser81]

My favorite is Mallet from Arkansas. Not sure how. I actually haven't seen him play much, but he gets a lot of hype and I haven't heard anyone call him overrated.

I've seen Mallet play a few times, and he's not very good. He is good for a couple nice passes, but he's usually inaccurate. Maybe he'll get better this year.


A few young QBs who could do well this year...

I really like Zach Collaros of Cincinnati. I thought he was much better than Pike last year, but Kelly decided to stick with Pike.

Kyle Parker of Clemson impressed me. Needs to be more consistent, but can make big plays.

Jacory Harris of Miami improved as the season went on. He could have a break-out year.



And my pick for best QB in college is:

 

[Tengo Juego]

And my pick for best QB in college is:

Kaepernick>Nesbitt :saythat:

 

[Senser81]

The biggest difference with Pryor as the season wore on was a schmatic one from JT and the staff. Early in the year he really didn't have a running game backing him up, and for the most part our "running" game consisted of zone reads with Pryor out of the gun, and then there was the Purdue disaster. After that, JT went to a much more pro-style attack, and gave Pryor that running game he needed (We put up over 200 yards on the ground against such stout defenses as Penn State and Iowa), allowing him to grow as a passer as the defenses couldn't key on him completely.

I'm calling BS on this. You make it seem as if Pryor had an epiphany after the Purdue game, but he was really just the same QB he had been. He could dink-and-dunk, and the only passes he could complete downfield were play-action lobs. The 5 games following the Purdue game, which included 3 of the weakest teams on OSU's schedule, Pryor completed 13, 11, 8, 14, and 9 passes. Sorry, that doesn't seem like a "pro-style" attack.

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The Iowa game is a great example of Pryor's shortcomings as a passer. Iowa actually has a good defense (unlike Oregon, who just before the Rose Bowl had given up 51 to Stanford, 41 to Arizona, and 33 to Oregon State. Ohio State could only score 26). Pryor 'played within himself' and completed 14 of 17 passes...for a grand total of 93 yards! The longest pass play for OSU was 17 yards!

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I hate when people answer without giving any support to their choice

Random Mediocre QB, because he plays for my favorite team.

A major reason the nfl/ncaa section sucks.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Prior stinks, I've never been impressed. Some weeks he's the best athlete on the field. Reminds me of Antwan Randle El, but Randle El was more dynamic.

 

[beamerball811]

Trying to generate some solid college football discussion in here to get amped up for the season.

Jake Locker may be the most physically gifted of the college quarterbacks with his Tim Tebow like frame and athletic ability but he has a much stronger arm to go with it.

Ryan Mallett has the strongest arm of the bunch but has the accuracy issues in big games that seemed to derail the careers of similar prospects like JaMarcus Russell and Kyle Boller.

Christian Ponder might not be the most gifted or exciting quarterback but his leadership and accuracy will remind many of Colt McCoy coming into his senior year.

Andrew Luck seems to be the current flavor of the week with people ready to annoint him the cream of the crop after one season at Stanford.

Terrelle Pryor is a Vince Young clone which a few years ago might have been a red flag.

Other guys worth mentioning: Jacory Harris, Matt Barkley, Nick Foles, Nathan Enderle


Personally I'm a big fan of Christian Ponder as I feel he's the most pro ready of the quarterbacks and he's the only one I'd feel confident putting under center as a rookie.

Ponder sucks! When will people figure this out...same with Jacory...people have been no his dick for 2 years and he hasn't produced. Tyrod Taylor is more worth mentioning than Jacory Harris...how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Case Keenum

/thread.

 

[BrntO4Life]

Ponder sucks! When will people figure this out...same with Jacory...people have been no his dick for 2 years and he hasn't produced. Tyrod Taylor is more worth mentioning than Jacory Harris...how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title

Seriously? How big of a homer can you be to diss other QBs as overrated and then mention Taylor, notoriously overrated QB, as the opposite?

 

[Sportsbuck]

I'm calling BS on this. You make it seem as if Pryor had an epiphany after the Purdue game, but he was really just the same QB he had been.

He didn't have an epiphany (although the way I worded it does make it sound like thats what I'm saying) but after the Purdue when he really started to make strides as a passer. If you wanted to point to the game where the lightbulb finally clicked all the way it would be the Rose Bowl.

He could dink-and-dunk, and the only passes he could complete downfield were play-action lobs.

Pryor did much more than dink and dunk and lob. He wasn't Peyton Manning out there, but he wasn't exactly checking down to his running back on every play either.
Against Minnesota I counted 1 long TD pass off of a play-action, a long pass for a huge gain where Pryor threw it perfectly to Posey's outside shoulder where only his man could get it, a few broken plays where Pryor found Posey and Sanzo coming back to the ball, and then him on a designed roll out where he found Posey beating a cover 2 for a TD.
Against NMSU there was a perfect strike for an 18-20 yard TD to Sanzo against a cover 1, where the safety was sitting in the middle and the corner was trailing. He found Posey for a 30 yard gain early on a 3 step drop fade.
Against PSU he found Dane right over the linebackers and in front of the safety in a cover 2 with the perfect pass for the situation (Dane got rocked though). He hit Posey for a deep TD when he got beyond the safety.
Against Iowa all he really could do was dink and dink, outside of a beautiful 17 yard throw to Posey thats really all we tried to do anyway (and with how dominant the run game was that day its no surprise).

The 5 games following the Purdue game, which included 3 of the weakest teams on OSU's schedule, Pryor completed 13, 11, 8, 14, and 9 passes. Sorry, that doesn't seem like a "pro-style" attack.

Up until Purdue we mainly stuck with a spead attack with zone reads, QB draws, and speed options as our running game. After Purdue, we went with a more I-formation, pro-set, ace, etc. style of attack and it worked like a charm as our running game exploded against great defenses like Penn State and Iowa. Obviously we still worked in the zone read and option (With a QB like Pryor you would be crazy not to) but we established the running backs first out of the I and other sets.

By pro-style I didn't mean a passing attack where we threw the ball 35 times, I mean the type of offense we tried to run in terms of formations, packages, etc.

The Iowa game is a great example of Pryor's shortcomings as a passer. Iowa actually has a good defense (unlike Oregon, who just before the Rose Bowl had given up 51 to Stanford, 41 to Arizona, and 33 to Oregon State. Ohio State could only score 26). Pryor 'played within himself' and completed 14 of 17 passes...for a grand total of 93 yards! The longest pass play for OSU was 17 yards!

Iowa sat in a straight cover 4 for 90% of the game and really forced us to hit the short stuff... that was the most blatant coverage scheme I've ever seen in my life. So, when we did pass we hit the flats with our backs and found our WR's underneath, but Iowa's defense snuffed them out before they could get much YAC.

Franikly I don't know why Pryor was brought up in this thread... I don't consider him a top 10 QB in CFB at this point let alone a top 5 and I don't consider him a Heisman candidate either. He's a solid player at this point but he's still got a lot of growing to do before he deserves the kind of hype he's gotten.

 

[Sportsbuck]

how couldn't you mention Greg McElroy of Alabama? A frosh to lead Bama to the title

? McElroy was a redshirt junior year last year.

 

[Chadman]

Mcelroy is okay. He did good vs shit teams and okay vs the great teams. im sure julio jones hates him.

 

[Fox1994]

McElroy was college football's answer to Trent Dilfer. He's Ricky Stanzi without the unwarranted hype.

Btw, thanks for the details on Mallet's suckitude. I'll try and remember that this season.

And Pryor was excellent in the Rose Bowl. Granted, Oregon didn't have a much-vaunted defense, but he seemed to have made strides from his mediocre-at-best regular season performance.

I think if he can continue progressing and stay for a fourth year he could develop into a true dual-threat pro quarterback. (McNair and McNabb at one point in their respective careers.)

 

[Tailback U]

I got to see Luck play live a few times last season so I'm a bit biased, but I was really impressed by his throwing technique and footwork. I'm sure the fact that he is so young makes him more impressive than he actually is, but he's a polished QB for his age and has a ton of room to grow. He will be a 1st round pick in a couple years, no doubt about it in my mind.

I've seen pieces of Jake Locker over the last 3 years and he's always been a stud, but has never really proved anything to me. He's a great athlete. I still don't know if he's a great QB, though.