strahanfan92
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Amirite saying.... Aaron Curry = AJ Hawk?
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Who will be the biggest draft bust of 2011?
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I'll go with Von Miller. I wouldn't say it if he was with a 3-4 team. I don't like the fit with him in the 4-3. Takes away his best asset, which is rushing the passer. The Denver front 4 is also not going to do him any favors in run defense. It definitely rubs me the wrong way that he's drawn comparisons to Derrick Thomas. He's not even close.
dave
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Fairley will be fine. Suh and Vanden Bosch won't let him slack.
TheImmortalGoud
New member
Not for Murray. I just don't think he's gonna end up doing anything.
CAM NEWTON calling plays
Sorry but nothing I have from him sounds like he is a quick, sharp guy. I wonder how many "exams" he took inn college....puhlease!
Sorry but nothing I have from him sounds like he is a quick, sharp guy. I wonder how many "exams" he took inn college....puhlease!
That Gruden question was unfair tough, because Auburn doesn't have play calls like that. I really don't understand why people get so caught up on that snippet.
What have you seen from him that makes you think he isn't "quick" or a "sharp guy"? I just want to know the basis for this argument. Is it just a feeling? IMO its one thing to questions a guys ability or desire, but an entirely different thing to question a guys intelligence. There are QBs that came in the league with the same question about intelligence and they've done well, so I don't think questioning someone's intelligence is the way to go. Guys who fail at the position don't fail because of a lack of intelligence, but because they don't have the necessary skills or ability, or because they just don't care enough.
Just most of the interviews he was in....I don't get the impression that he is bright....there are a million interview from this guy. When I hear Sam Bradford or Stafford speak they sound like they know what they want to say. It is just a personal feeling....they all could be fucking idiots for all I know but what else can I go by.
My main problem with Cam Newton and Jake locker, and it is not their fault, is how can a guy learn to play under center in 1 year after playing Shotgun QB for his whole life? The learning curve is so high and now your in the NFL when the speed of the game is 10 fold compared to college.
Take Mark Sanchez for example...another brainiac, he played in an USC pro offense style and he struggles in the NFL. Freaking Jets don't let him throw the ball past 10 yards most plays. Granted Sanchez is no where near the specimen that Cam is but I am not sure how much of a factor that plays at the NFL QB position.
OnlyOneBeerLeft
Fuck em
"Sorry, but nothing I have heard from him sounds like he is a quick, sharp guy. I wonder how many "exams" he took in college... please!"
I wonder how many exams JMS took in college... or better yet how many he passed :smh:
As far as the video.... what you are implying is that Cam Newton is dumb because he can not recall a long verbal play from Auburn, correct? Now... the fact that Gus has mostly numbered plays and short simple terms in the offensive playbook would have nothing to do with this, correct? That's like saying that the head cook in a strictly vegetarian restaurant is not good at what he does because he's never been asked to cook steak based dishes. That in no way shape or form means that he isn't good, or that he isn't willing to learn, or that he can't learn.
anodder engrish teachor on a interwub forim.....great!
Fine....he is a smart as a tack. You guyz win.
I bet my life savings that I passed more exams in college then (or is it than..OOB?) attended classes by Sir Cam.....lulz
Hasselbeck
Jus' bout dat action boss
Of 2011? No one.. you can't label a bust after a season.
From this draft? I'd say Cam Newton (Akili Smith II) and Julio Jones (he will be good but nowhere near as good as he should be given what Atlanta gave up to get him).. I'd say Andy Dalton could be a flop as well.
From this draft? I'd say Cam Newton (Akili Smith II) and Julio Jones (he will be good but nowhere near as good as he should be given what Atlanta gave up to get him).. I'd say Andy Dalton could be a flop as well.
That's strong. My understanding is that he is going to play a lot early on.
AnArtofWar
Laser
At #6...and for what...2 1st round picks...a 2nd round pick and 2 4th round picks? I expect superstar numbers. If he was simply picked at #6 I'd still expect stellar- 1st string numbers. The Falcons should have just got another guy in the late 1st round if they wanted an above average 2nd stringer.
Though it depends on your meaning of "bust" I guess. I think Julio might be the biggest bust other than Cam Newton. Though I feel like they still have that potential to do just alright in the league- they won't just be great or tank JMarcus style. I think someone who could be great or simply a bust is Von Miller seeing as his size could truly be a problem.
j.hen
Self Care
It was next year's 1st round pick, so just one 1st, one 2nd, and two 4ths. Not two 1sts.
And make no mistake, Julio will be Atlanta's star #1 receiver for years to come, but at this point with the talent around him it's just dumb to expect #1 WR numbers when we already have Roddy White (who led the NFL in receptions last year) and Tony Gonzalez as well.
The truth of the matter is, The Falcons had to get Matt Ryan another young superstar player on offense to gel with. Roddy White is turning 30 this year and it seems Tony G is in his last year of football this season. Atlanta needed another playmaker to stick with Matt Ryan to build their team around, and Julio Jones will be just that.
OnlyOneBeerLeft
Fuck em
:shifty:
Newton 65.4 comp% 2908 yards 30 TDs 7 int 178.2 rating
1586 rush yds 5.6 YPC 24 rush TD
Smith 56.6 comp% 5148 yards 43 TDs 14 int 152.2 rating
367 rush yds 2.1 YPC 6 rush TD
Not even close from a college statistics standpoint or size... how do you see them similar? Too highly drafted black guys? Newton is a clear leader on the field too.
Roy Williams says hi.
AnArtofWar
Laser
Alright that makes more sense. Though still. That is a ridiculously hefty price for a player who has been known to have some hands problems and when they don't need a weapon just this minute. I am still unsure of his abilities and I think what they gave up is way too much. Especially when considering how the draft will be stacked next year. A lot of talent will still be around later in the 1st round. If Julio Jones was the surest thing of being a superstar in the last couple of years then I think I'd find the Falcon's trade to be a good one.
