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WrestleMania Weekend Thread

I still don't get why they thought they needed to end the streak. If it's not going to a younger guy who can take it and run with it as the "next streak" then why bother?

It was undoubtedly Taker's decision to stop now. As for not giving it to a younger guy, look at his opponents the past however many years and all were top level vets. You'd want a budding headlining heel to do it but how many of those are around? None except for Wyatt and no way he was getting it.




And this from Meltzer:

Lesnar went from a 40-to-1 underdog to the actual favorite on several gambling sites in the last hour or so before the match, so people in the knew met and won heavily on that result.

lmao
 
There won't ever be someone with that kind of streak ever again.

I know, which is why it should have been left intact in my mind. I don't understand the reason to end it, especially to a part-timer.

It was undoubtedly Taker's decision to stop now. As for not giving it to a younger guy, look at his opponents the past however many years and all were top level vets. You'd want a budding headlining heel to do it but how many of those are around? None except for Wyatt and no way he was getting it.




And this from Meltzer:



lmao

Again, I understand that when you look at his past opponents, and yes, a budding heel should have gotten it. I'll say it again, they didn't have to end the streak. If Taker didn't feel like he could go past this year, still have him get the win and then retire. I don't understand who really benefits from that decision.
 
I am not sure if Warner pointed this out early or not, but the Reddit Dolphins guy was finally given false information last night and was beefing on Twitter about his guy being a "fraud"
 
I watched with my brother, his fiance, and my fiance...the three of them do not follow wrestling at all so it was interesting watching them....some highlights.

My fiance becoming the biggest Daniel Bryan fan ever just because she hated Steph.

The Battle Royal was fun trying to answer every who is that question about jobbers.

The Shield matched seemed like it was over in a blink of an eye.

My brother went on a pizza run during Wyatt/Cena, my fiance was lost on why Wyatt kept wanting the monster to come out.

We were all legit stunned when Taker lost, only because i just assumed he was going to kick out again, it didt quite feel like the end of the match....our shock went away when they showed the black guy in the crowd.

When the did the false finish after the spear to Bryan and then RKO to Batista, i thougt itwas over and a riot was gonna ensue...that false finsh kinda had my brother going damn.
 
After sleeping on it.

The real loser in all of this was the commentating. The biggest issue I had with nearly every match, especially the WWE Storiezzz Style match, is that Cole/Lawler/JBL suck at telling the damn story so if they are going through this type of match, they need to improve so much in this regard.

The Usos v. The Real Americans v. Los Matadores v. Rybaxel - ***1/2. One of the better openers in a long time. I enjoyed it. Crowd was shockingly there in full force and into the match.

Triple H v. Daniel Bryan - ***3/4 - This was exactly the type of match that was needed to advance the storyline. A simple, straight forward old school Triple H methodical beatdown. Was it what the crowd wanted? Nope. Was anyone at home? They shouldn't have been. Commentary did a poor job of telling the story and holding the viewers hand through it. But the in-ring work was good and told the story that needed to be told. I thought it was a strong performance by Triple H. I bash him enough...I gotta give him props when they are due, too. If any match gets a bump from a second watch, it will be this one, I'm sure.

The Shield v. Kane/New Age Outlaws - ** - Squash match. It was exactly what it should of been...so I liked it.

The Andre The Giant Battle Royal - N/R - The right guy won. Fin.

John Cena v. Bray Wyatt - ** - No sir, I didn't like it. Wyatt just can't go in the ring yet (he may never) and Cena wasn't dragging him to a decent match. If you're going to tell storiez, you need adequate story teller on commentary. The best storyteller the WWE has is the guy that does all of their promo packages. Neither Cena nor Wyatt told an adequate story leading up. The commentary didn't elaborate on the story being told in the ring. The talent didn't relay the story adequately in the ring to make the lack of storytelling all around work. Wyatt just lacks the ability to tell the story he needs to in matches in a way that someone like Jake Roberts or Mick Foley can...and who can, really? Not many. But he needs to start doing his homework more and those are the two guys who he can model his style after and become a stronger in-ring worker, especially because all of his matches seemingly are STORIEZ-centric format matches.

The Undertaker v. Brock Lesnar - * - The match was bad. Real bad. I don't even care about the ending...he needed to lose sooner or later, hell, he has wanted to lose for years. But at this point people have been conditioned to expect a great match and this wasn't it. They didn't tell the story right in the ring nor could they on commentary. Maybe if you tell the story of the old, overconfident Undertaker taking on the younger, professionally trained beast and getting bulldozed properly, no one feels like they got kicked in the balls after the match and you don't get a go-away reaction. I simply didn't like anything about this match to the point they rustled my jimmies. If that was what they were going for...good job, I guess.

The Divas Match - * - It was sloppy and boring.

Randy Orton v. Batista v. Daniel Bryan - ** - As Warner said, this was your typical Attitude Era - Nitro style main event match that is overbooked to smithereens. First off, Triple Threats suck and are prone to shenanigans. Secondly, this match was destined to involve shenanigans to begin with. I wasn't feeling this match and no one will be feeling it after given time to breath. These matches never hold up. It was building up to THE MOMENT, but the journey getting there sucked, and honestly, to me, felt somewhat flat because of it. Sure, it was awesome to see Bryan finally overcoming da oddz, but again, it fell a bit flat because you had a good portion of the crowd dead on the inside from the Undertaker loss. Kudos given where they are due...the crowd doesn't bounce back from that Undertaker match until Stephanie and Triple H come back out. So, to be fair, that was well booked.
 
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RAW tonight from that Smoothie King building.

Warrior confirmed for the show.

Taker, we assume, will show up despite spending the night in the hospital.

What's next for Brock?

DANIEL BRYAN CHAMPION

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And of course, part of the charm of these post-WM RAWs are the hardcore crowds. Two years ago, the crowd chanted for Bryan all night despite not showing up. Last year was the Ziggler & Fandango show with Brock's return.
 
They REALLY couldve used that kind of energy in the crowd for that match last night. Bray aint got shit without ol Brodie Lee to fire the crowd up.
 
Pretty sure this crowd means little in the 'over department'. Considering last year they cheered huge for Ziggler, and booed the hell out of the Orton match...

What matches were they in last night?
 
That match with the Wyatts was better than the match they had last night, and I only caught the last five minutes. That should have been done instead of the singles match.
 
Pretty sure this crowd means little in the 'over department'. Considering last year they cheered huge for Ziggler, and booed the hell out of the Orton match...

What matches were they in last night?
Being over with the crowd doesnt necessarily guarantee a push with the suits.
 
Being over with the crowd doesnt necessarily guarantee a push with the suits.

Hence the Ziggler and Orton comment. Last year Ziggle was heavily cheered, Orton's match was the match the most crowd shit happened. A year later, Orton is in the main event of Wrestlemania, while Ziggler was, well, we know what he did.
 
Hence the Ziggler and Orton comment. Last year Ziggle was heavily cheered, Orton's match was the match the most crowd shit happened. A year later, Orton is in the main event of Wrestlemania, while Ziggler was, well, we know what he did.

True, but Orton was booed unceremoniously during his championship run, and Ziggler got good pops when he was in the ring.

EDIT: I see the point you are making, my comment is irrelevant.
 
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