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Xbox360 or PS3

I have both systems.

PS3
Pros:
Quiet, built-in wireless,
blu-ray player,
great DVD upscaler,
solid collection of exclusives, good downloadable games,
PSN Network is free, no points ... you use actually use cash to pay for stuff you want.
The ability to use USB flash drives and portable hard drives.

Cons: Not crazy about the controller, I have the original, it's cheap, light plastic.
Playstation Network not as good as Xbox Live.

360
Pros:
All EA Sports games look and play better on the 360
better selection of games, better selection of classic arcade games,
Xbox Live superior service,
better controller IMO.

Cons: Unreliable machine (you're sure to get RROD at least once in your gaming life),
loud as hell if you don't have a huge hard drive to install all your games (I have the 20 gig HD),
proprietaryy madness (you can't use USB drives for storage, you have to buy Microsoft's hard drives which are brutally expensive, etc...).
No blu-ray player and the DVD player isn't as good as the ps3's.
MS Points annoying. I don't want to pay for future purchases. If I'm paying $5.99 for a Tiger Woods add-on course, let me pay $5.99. I don't want to spend $7.50 for 800 MS Points.
You have to pay for a wireless adapter.
 
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I was referring to wireless as wireless internet adapter built in, but I will still thank you for your calm and collective response el chupa nibre.

And dave I agree the sixaxis is a joke, but luckily they discontinued it.
 
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the base 360 is cheaper yes, but it doesnt come with a hard drive or component cable, so its definitely not just 200 bucks. you need to factor the cost of a HD, component cables and however much your spending to play online. even with that its still cheaper then the ps3 but not by 100 dollars. and dave makes a good point with using money online to buy stuff. 360's carnival pricing is kinda wack, at least on the ps3 its dollar value so your not left over with an odd amount of points you cant really do anything with.
 
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It doesn't fucking matter i have both but I play my 360 more cause most everyone I game with has a 360. I use my ps3 for the exclusives that shit on the 360 exclusives.

The next time a thread like this pops up I'm closing it.

They always bring a decent discussion. I love reading them for some reason. Fanboys are hilarious.
 
When Blu-Ray gets cheaper or does something that makes a Dual-Layer DVD's a nuisance, it'll be a Pro; for now, it's just a different format used for games. I'm aware that a dual layer Blu-Ray can withhold about 50-60 gigs, and a DL DVD holds about 8.5 tops, but still, there isn't enough difference to label it a PRO.
I think Beer was more pointing to the movie capabilities of blu-ray. Being able to watch The Dark Knight blu-ray on my 61" tv with surround sound=amazing.
I don't want to spend $7.50 for 800 MS Points.

It's actually $10 for 800 points, which proves the point you were trying to make of how confusing their whole carnival ticket bullshit is.
 
depends on what your gonna do, If your gonna strictly play games go with the 360, If your gonna play games but also want a convient place to store your pirated movies and a nifty bluray player then ps3 is for you. Forget about the failure rate, Ive had my 360 for 3.5-4years with not one problems (wood knocked) and I feel that I have gotten my money out of it. If youve got the extra to blow though Id get both cause it makes you the envy of all your friends...
 
depends on what your gonna do, If your gonna strictly play games go with the 360, If your gonna play games but also want a convient place to store your pirated movies and a nifty bluray player then ps3 is for you. Forget about the failure rate, Ive had my 360 for 3.5-4years with not one problems (wood knocked) and I feel that I have gotten my money out of it. If youve got the extra to blow though Id get both cause it makes you the envy of all your friends...

:laugh: yeah it must not be true if yours hasn't failed.
 
Didn't say it wasn't true just that it wasn't as big a deal anymore as it used to be, if im not mistaken ps3's have started to crap out pretty regularly and the new 360s failure rate has dramatically been reduced... and even if it hasn't a monkey with the right tools and some basic computer knowledge can fix a rrod... I also believe it has alot to do with how you haev your 360 sitting, my brother bought his the same day as me and left his laying horizontal had a rrod within the first year, mines standing up and no problems at all.... it is a noisy fucker though...
 
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I have a 360 and have had it get the RROD twice. I still love the thing. If I had the movie I would get a PS3 because of what it is capable of. Microsoft are Nazi's when it comes to external drives. I wan't to stream my 160 GB worth of movies/music from my external hard drive but I can't. If I had both I would use the 360 for gaming and use the PS3 for media.
 
Didn't say it wasn't true just that it wasn't as big a deal anymore as it used to be, if im not mistaken ps3's have started to crap out pretty regularly and the new 360s failure rate has dramatically been reduced... and even if it hasn't a monkey with the right tools and some basic computer knowledge can fix a rrod...

Crap out regularly? Still less than 4%
 
Im tired of seeing these threads. But since you can kick my ass I'll keep it open.
I think we should have one stickied thread called "Pros and Cons of the PS3 and 360". In it we could list all the pluses and minuses and every time someone thinks of a new one we can add it to the original list. That way anytime someone is thinking about making a console purchase they can consult that list. It will also keep all the fanboy comments in one thread, hopefully.

I was actually thinking about doing it a while ago. I compiled a really good list but never got around to posting it. I have since lost it. Boo.
depends on what your gonna do, If your gonna strictly play games go with the 360, If youve got the extra to blow though Id get both cause it makes you the envy of all your friends...
This statement always irks me. Like the PS3 doesn't have any great games? It actually probably has more quality exclusives than the 360. This year is a great example. Obviously everyone's tastes in games are different but to make a blanket statement like this is pretty absurd. I can understand the "if you play lots of online" argument, but this one doesn't come close to holding water.
As for the second part, don't forget that you will also have a much larger e-penis.
 
This statement always irks me. Like the PS3 doesn't have any great games? It actually probably has more quality exclusives than the 360. This year is a great example. Obviously everyone's tastes in games are different but to make a blanket statement like this is pretty absurd. I can understand the "if you play lots of online" argument, but this one doesn't come close to holding water.
As for the second part, don't forget that you will also have a much larger e-penis.

Oh no the ps3 exclusives are much better and it also has plenty of quality games but if your just gonna play games you might as well save the 100 bucks and pick up a 360, I do believe the ps3 is the better system I just like my 360 more for some reason, I blame it all on fable... (forget teh damn failure rate cause that messes up my argument )
 
Oh no the ps3 exclusives are much better and it also has plenty of quality games but if your just gonna play games you might as well save the 100 bucks and pick up a 360, I do believe the ps3 is the better system I just like my 360 more for some reason, I blame it all on fable... (forget teh damn failure rate cause that messes up my argument )

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:facepalm::facepalm: double facepalm, its just an opinion and the route I would have taken had I not had this line of credit that would happen to cover the purchase of both. The ps3 is better I said that too, Its just well idk, I like the 360 for gaming and the ps3 for media and some games.... Its all preference and I quit this thread...
 
:facepalm::facepalm: double facepalm, its just an opinion and the route I would have taken had I not had this line of credit that would happen to cover the purchase of both. The ps3 is better I said that too, Its just well idk, I like the 360 for gaming and the ps3 for media and some games.... Its all preference and I quit this thread...

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if your playing on a SDTV and dont care for saving your games and playing online then yes it is a hundred dollars cheaper
 
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