The Arcade Random Thoughts Thread

[SethMode]

No, wont effect gameplay at all. They are just charging for people to have new/different skins on their guns. Purely just a visual upgrade, but pretty shitty for them to do.

I guess. Far be it for me to say so but if they want to charge for cosmetic things that they pay for I say go for it. I just don't care about the shit and the only people that get "duped" by it are the people that are okay with paying for it anyway and thus not "duped". Just my opinion. Personally, I'd be all for a system where the aesthetics were charged for and the story shit wasn't (i.e. -- charge those weirdos that need different guns in Gears and let the dlc be free) now of course that would never happen but still....my point is, being pissed about charging for extras is insanity.

[Swarley]

I guess. Far be it for me to say so but if they want to charge for cosmetic things that they pay for I say go for it. I just don't care about the shit and the only people that get "duped" by it are the people that are okay with paying for it anyway and thus not "duped". Just my opinion. Personally, I'd be all for a system where the aesthetics were charged for and the story shit wasn't (i.e. -- charge those weirdos that need different guns in Gears and let the dlc be free) now of course that would never happen but still....my point is, being pissed about charging for extras is insanity.

I could care less about gun skins really. I just get mad about the idea of charging for anything and everything they can think of. It's just something that shouldn't be excluded from the game. Next thing you know, we're going to have to pay $0.50 to pick up new weapons in campaign, and pay $1 to advance to the next level lol (joking of course, but you get the point). We already pay $60 for the game, excluding little shit like this is just them being greedy dicks.

[padman59]

I guess. Far be it for me to say so but if they want to charge for cosmetic things that they pay for I say go for it. I just don't care about the shit and the only people that get "duped" by it are the people that are okay with paying for it anyway and thus not "duped". Just my opinion. Personally, I'd be all for a system where the aesthetics were charged for and the story shit wasn't (i.e. -- charge those weirdos that need different guns in Gears and let the dlc be free) now of course that would never happen but still....my point is, being pissed about charging for extras is insanity.

I wish more companies would take Valve's approach to this very issue.

[Fox1994]

So wait, what are you mad about again? Correct me if I'm wrong but, this doesn't effect one's ability to play the retail game, right?

I think they're upset that Microsoft has hitched on an unnecessary fee in the interest of getting people to buy something they need even less than the actual game. It's pretty tacky, but I guess when there's a dollar to be made we'll do whatever to make it.

[Twigg4075]

So wait, what are you mad about again? Correct me if I'm wrong but, this doesn't effect one's ability to play the retail game, right?

Oh, christ. You just love playing devil's advocate.

It's a horrible, horrible thing to do. It's something that is intentionally left out of a game so they they can charge for it. That isn't cool no matter how you look at it. It's the same as charging for all those fucking costumes in Street Fighter. But again, you defended that practice as well. $45 is an absolute JOKE for a few weapon skins. 3/4's of the price of the ENTIRE GAME for weapon skins? Seriously?!?

At least include these small "bonuses" with the season pass thing for chrissake.

The way I look at it is that these companies are deliberately trying to take advantage of their biggest fans. These are the people that will blindly buy this worthless shit just because it's part of the game that they love. That is just wrong. Sure, they will make money off of it because of exactly what i said, and I know that they are a business. But that doesn't make it right. Ultimately in the long run you're going to piss off more fans and customers than appease them. All these companies care about is how to make more money NOW, not a few years down the line.

Just look at Medellin. He can speak for himself but I'm pretty sure he was big Street Fighter fan. But after their bullshit practices of completely overcharging for costumes and releasing five versions of each game, he got fed up. He's a huge Gears fan too and it's shit like this that might drive someone like him away from the series.

[IamMedellin]

It's a horrible, horrible thing to do. It's something that is intentionally left out of a game so they they can charge for it. That isn't cool no matter how you look at it. It's the same as charging for all those fucking costumes in Street Fighter.

Just look at Medellin. He can speak for himself but I'm pretty sure he was big Street Fighter fan. But after their bullshit practices of completely overcharging for costumes and releasing five versions of each game, he got fed up. He's a huge Gears fan too and it's shit like this that might drive someone like him away from the series.

1st of all Mackey, dont go singling me out, I dont Need your Armanian Money Train heat on me.

Next of all, It was NOT Street Fighter, it was Marvel Vs. Capcom 3; or rather it was Capcom's handling of MVC3; capped off with the announcement of ULTIMATE MVC3 that drove me to disassociate myself from the franchise.
So with all that said, Fuck Street Fighter, Fuck Capcom, Fuck Micro$oft, Fuck Cliffy B's 9/11 mocking ass, and just for funsies Fuck you Mackey.

STRIKE Team Baby
Medellin Inc Presents Mortal Kombat Fight stick Designs Koming Soon!

[Twigg4075]

1st of all Mackey, dont go singling me out, I dont Need your Armanian Money Train heat on me.

Next of all, It was NOT Street Fighter, it was Marvel Vs. Capcom 3; or rather it was Capcom's handling of MVC3; capped off with the announcement of ULTIMATE MVC3 that drove me to disassociate myself from the franchise.
So with all that said, Fuck Street Fighter, Fuck Capcom, Fuck Micro$oft, Fuck Cliffy B's 9/11 mocking ass, and just for funsies Fuck you Mackey.

STRIKE Team Baby
Medellin Inc Presents Mortal Kombat Fight stick Designs Koming Soon!

LMAO. Let's play some fucking Gears 2 bitch! I need cheevos!

[IamMedellin]

Im waiting on ur Ass, u fukin Jabroni

[SethMode]

Oh, christ. You just love playing devil's advocate.

It's a horrible, horrible thing to do. It's something that is intentionally left out of a game so they they can charge for it. That isn't cool no matter how you look at it. It's the same as charging for all those fucking costumes in Street Fighter. But again, you defended that practice as well. $45 is an absolute JOKE for a few weapon skins. 3/4's of the price of the ENTIRE GAME for weapon skins? Seriously?!?

At least include these small "bonuses" with the season pass thing for chrissake.

The way I look at it is that these companies are deliberately trying to take advantage of their biggest fans. These are the people that will blindly buy this worthless shit just because it's part of the game that they love. That is just wrong. Sure, they will make money off of it because of exactly what i said, and I know that they are a business. But that doesn't make it right. Ultimately in the long run you're going to piss off more fans and customers than appease them. All these companies care about is how to make more money NOW, not a few years down the line.

Just look at Medellin. He can speak for himself but I'm pretty sure he was big Street Fighter fan. But after their bullshit practices of completely overcharging for costumes and releasing five versions of each game, he got fed up. He's a huge Gears fan too and it's shit like this that might drive someone like him away from the series.

Not really. I just don't care, and bitching about something that isn't required to get the full retail experience is just bitching. JUST DON'T BUY IT. If they drive you from the game because of it THAT IS THEIR FAULT.

You call me a devil's advocate, but I'm not. I just don't see the need to complain about something that is optional. Complain if you can't have the full retail experience without it. Don't complain because they're over charging for something COMPLETELY OPTIONAL.

Or just be pissed off because you feel they should be more loyal to you. Whatever. I just won't buy it and something tells me I'll still enjoy the hell out of Gears.

[Twigg4075]

Not really. I just don't care, and bitching about something that isn't required to get the full retail experience is just bitching. JUST DON'T BUY IT. If they drive you from the game because of it THAT IS THEIR FAULT.

You call me a devil's advocate, but I'm not. I just don't see the need to complain about something that is optional. Complain if you can't have the full retail experience without it. Don't complain because they're over charging for something COMPLETELY OPTIONAL.

Or just be pissed off because you feel they should be more loyal to you. Whatever. I just won't buy it and something tells me I'll still enjoy the hell out of Gears.

But that can be argued. One can easily say that you aren't getting the full experience without all the skins. Sure, are skins pretty pointless? Pretty much. But we all know damn well they are included in the actual game and were only "removed", ie LOCKED OUT, so that MS could fill their coffers.

[SethMode]

But that can be argued. One can easily say that you aren't getting the full experience without all the skins. Sure, are skins pretty pointless? Pretty much. But we all know damn well they are included in the actual game and were only "removed", ie LOCKED OUT, so that MS could fill their coffers.

If you don't feel that you're getting the full game without the skins (and I know you aren't saying that, I'm just speaking in generalities here) then don't buy the game. It all just comes back to this sense of entitlement that I don't think a gamer has just for being a fan of the franchise. There are other issues worth talking about more than something you don't need to buy (for example, the naming of the Gears of War Triple Pack -- I know what I'm getting, but that is a tremendously misleading name in the context of the 3rd game coming out). This idea that you buy their games so they shouldn't try to make more money off of you is just unrealistic. And silly in the sense that at the end of the day the final choice is always yours.

[Twigg4075]

If you don't feel that you're getting the full game without the skins (and I know you aren't saying that, I'm just speaking in generalities here) then don't buy the game. It all just comes back to this sense of entitlement that I don't think a gamer has just for being a fan of the franchise. There are other issues worth talking about more than something you don't need to buy (for example, the naming of the Gears of War Triple Pack -- I know what I'm getting, but that is a tremendously misleading name in the context of the 3rd game coming out). This idea that you buy their games so they shouldn't try to make more money off of you is just unrealistic. And silly in the sense that at the end of the day the final choice is always yours.

Yeah, but there are a few things that make this complete bullshit. The most important thing is that they spring this on you the day before the game comes out. So you expect a hardcore Gears fan to say "Fuck it, I'm not buying Gears 3 now" because of the skins? No way. But will they be super pissed and maybe even not buy another Gears game (if there is one), Epic game or MS game? Quite possibly.

And I don't think this really falls under the whole entitlement issue. If we were talking about real DLC like maps, extra levels, etc and we were saying we should get all that, than yeah, that's entitlement. Weapon skins that are obviously on the disc and just locked out so we have to pay for them? Not even the same thing.

It's not that much different than these deals these developers/publishers make with stores. Only certain stores give you certain characters, again Gears 3 is guilty, when every one of the characters is already in the game and on the disc. You are just getting a code to unlock them. And then down the road you can pay money for them. Bullshit,

[SethMode]

Yeah, but there are a few things that make this complete bullshit. The most important thing is that they spring this on you the day before the game comes out. So you expect a hardcore Gears fan to say "Fuck it, I'm not buying Gears 3 now" because of the skins? No way. But will they be super pissed and maybe even not buy another Gears game (if there is one), Epic game or MS game? Quite possibly.

And I don't think this really falls under the whole entitlement issue. If we were talking about real DLC like maps, extra levels, etc and we were saying we should get all that, than yeah, that's entitlement. Weapon skins that are obviously on the disc and just locked out so we have to pay for them? Not even the same thing.

It's not that much different than these deals these developers/publishers make with stores. Only certain stores give you certain characters, again Gears 3 is guilty, when every one of the characters is already in the game and on the disc. You are just getting a code to unlock them. And then down the road you can pay money for them. Bullshit,

We are not going to agree here because you seem to think that just because someone is a hardcore fan and can't resist a bad purchase, they have some sort of argument. End of the day, they are a corporation out to make money. The only way they will learn to stop doing this is if people stop biting on it. In one sense, you argue for that behavior. In the other, you argue as if the average Gears player is too dumb or lacks the self control to not buy this. My argument really is I don't give a fuck about any of it, because you can still get the game and play through the game without it. I'm sorry that some people are borderline infants when it comes to game playing, but that doesn't effect me.

Now, if you needed the skin pack to play the game, I'd be pissed. But you don't.

[Swarley]

Anybody on here have the gamertag BmoreRavenGuy? Just got an XBL friend request from him and I have no idea who it is.

[SethMode]

Anybody on here have the gamertag BmoreRavenGuy? Just got an XBL friend request from him and I have no idea who it is.

Gonna guess it's Bmore...I don't have him but it's a logical conclusion. He's a good guy on the forum although I've never played anything with him online.