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Yeah, but Youtube doesn't charge you a yearly subscription, which is the main point. If Live was free, by all means, litter the thing with ads so that you can 1) Make money because you're a business and 2) Make money to help support the service and expand it.
The other point that seriously bugs me is that MS constantly tries to blow smoke up everyones ass by saying "We revamped the Live dashboard to streamline the experience for you the consumer!" Go fuck yourself. No you didn't. You changed the dash so that you had more real estate for ads. And now they want to go further. What's the next step? An ad before your game boots up?
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Your the only one that seems to have issues with the dash and this has been covered greatly. At this point its not our problem you can't figure it out. On the flip side of this for us people that don't have a problem with the improvements to the dash a lot of the ad revenue they've gained from said ads has allowed them to sink more money into live's dash and its back end. Its really a win situation for the avg. gamer but your still stuck on that old idea that paying for something should give you ad free content.
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LOL, really? Just me? Yeah, it's just me...except not at all. Every gaming outlet the world over complains how shitty it is now. Giant Bomb, Games Radar, Joystiq, Kotaku, you name it. Hell, during the podcast I did with the 40 Cast guys last night one of the hosts mentioned how bad the dash has become. Just because the majority of the people on THIS site don't seem to have a problem with it doesn't mean jack shit. That's one thing I never understood about this place. It's not so much that there are Xbox for MS fanboys, but more like Xbox apologists or people that are overly tolerant of their shitty practices.
Just look at some of the comments in from the very link that Handle It originally posted:
Comment #2 by WonderCaliban
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:49:10 AM
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The Dash is definitely less user friendly.
Adverts on a paid for service?Forum Posts: 511
Comment #5 by Nutty Scouser
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:52:17 AM
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what a joke i dont wanna see adverts, there should be a option for you to turn them off or on, you know give the customer a choice before forcing this shit on them....Forum Posts: 12
Comment #7 by mademaniiiiii
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:55:15 AM
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Next there be putting adverts in online gaming. Your get a kill in a fps or be ahead in a lap on a race then an advert will kick in about some hair product lolComment #9 by mhkerr
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:56:52 AM
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Does more advertising mean a cheaper live subscription then?
Thought the point of gold was to help maintain the live service. If advertising is now gonna help pay for it will we as customers see any benefit?Comment #11 by LavaLampBamboo
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 04:57:33 AM
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I suppose this would be better if it then resulted in Xbox Gold being free. I'd be happy with a few ads here and there if I wasn't paying for the service.
In fact, wasn't that a rumour a few years back, that they were going to make Silver multiplayer as well, but you had to put up with adverts?Keep in mind that is a Xbox fan site. And yet somehow they aren't anywhere near as tolerant as you guys are about this shit. I read through as many comments as I could because there are so many. I saw ONE that was as tolerant as you guys with something along the lines of "I just play games so whatever". Everyone else is fucking pissed.Comment #155 by ash356
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 02:03:04 PM
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Can I just say, all these people sarcastically claiming 'ADS ON A PAID FOR SERVICE? LIKE TV SUBSCRIPTIONS? WOW, THAT'S NEWS', are generally just being the Devils advocate, for the sake of, well, being a devils advocate.
Maybe ads would be fine, if MS weren't already making us question as to why we actually pay in the first place. Let's list:
Crap member 'perks', i.e. the ****ty DOTW we've been encountering recently.
Barely any exclusives anymore, in comparison to PS3.
Having Kinect shoved down our throats all the sodding time.
Increased prices on every DAMN thing on the marketplace.
Oh, and servers being taken down after just one year by EA. Which is exactly what Gold is supposed to prevent.
... and the list goes on.
Frankly, if Microsoft actually made us feel like we're still getting something from our Gold, we'd likely all be happy. But we're pretty much just getting ripped off nowadays.
But yeah, it's just me.
I also found it funny that when I pointed out to Seth how the past several weeks the Giant Bomb guys have been complaining about how difficult it is to even find content on the service, he worth it off as "I really don't listen to what they say anymore, their stories about non-gaming are more interesting." Really? He tried to play it off as if the GB guys are some of the most popular and well respected guys in gaming journalism. If they would've said they love it and have no problem with it he would've been pointing out how wrong I am for my thoughts on that matter. Funny how that works.
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Wow, so 40 people thumbed up some website's comment, out of the how many million XBL user base? That's a solid enough majority to win the Canadian Government, but really doesn't do much when you apply real math.
Nobody is being an apologist (I love how spastic you fuckin people get) when they say, "it's not a big deal, I'm not a retard and can use the bloody thing". It's not the world's greatest interface, but it's not overly difficult either. You sit here spazzing "OMG WHY DIDNT I GET THAT ADVERTISEMENT" or about having to click through a menu to find something....and other stupidity like this stuff really fucking matters. It's so utterly pathetic. I wonder if your head would just explode if you ever had to deal with something actually relevant in your day?
Then you got all these assclowns storming the internet to complain, thinking it's going to accomplish anything, yet all they are doing is generating free publicity for the company that has pissed them off. How dumb can people be?
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The guy made one comment. One of the guys was actually joking because he hardly ever turns on his PS3 and he said something like "Why should I? We all know Xbox is where it's at." And then another guys aid "Yeah, although the dashboard is extremely shitty now." Not some big debate but it just shows you how the MAJORITY of core gamers feel about it.Originally posted by leaffan
And that was just a small example from just one of thousands of gaming communities. I think the fact that Giant Bomb shits on it constantly is more damning. Brad Shoemaker said "I'll take the PS3's XMB any day over the Xbox dash now. You can't find shit and you get hammered over the head with ads." This coming from the same guy that would constantly shit on how archaic and simple the XMB was.
But of course, what do they GB guys know? They only play games for a fucking living. Obviously the VSD community is far more versed on the subject.
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Whoa guys, one guy made a comment, then another guy made a comment....which means the MAJORITY of the 10M+ XBL users feel that way.Comment
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*le sigh
That link had an incomplete story and should of never been posted because it doesn't tell the whole story. But continue to post comments from users that obviously are enraged with something instead of spending a couple mins to find what really is happening.Just look at some of the comments in from the very link that Handle It originally posted:
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Holy fucking shit. Did you actually read what I posted? I did forget to post a fucking "eh?" at the end so maybe that's why it was confusing to you?
Like I said, the same fucking people here over and over. You, Leaf, Seth...same shit, different day. Most of the other people around here are just "Whatevs", but it's the same handful of guys constantly defending this shit.
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I'm pretty amused at how much stock you put into someone who reviews video games for a living.
As if they are some certified pro in gamign because they have a journalism degree.Comment
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