Madden 10 Info Summary Thread

[AJay]

Really good thread. I'll be checking here often. You should note that Defensive match-ups are back, think thats something worth putting up there because a lot of us guys missed it and wanted it back.

[Tailback U]

Really good thread. I'll be checking here often. You should note that Defensive match-ups are back, think thats something worth putting up there because a lot of us guys missed it and wanted it back.

That was a nice feature but I remember that it caused glitches in the defense when playing man to man coverages. For example if I had a specific LB lined up on a tight end but called a defensive play where my LB is blitzing it would have my safety blitz and my LB lined up 10 yards off the LOS where the safety would be.

Something like that, hopefully they fixed it.

[adembroski]

Really good thread. I'll be checking here often. You should note that Defensive match-ups are back, think thats something worth putting up there because a lot of us guys missed it and wanted it back.

It's in there.

[Aso]

XBox is a dead system.

[adembroski]

** Creating sim style Gameplay- New Speed Differential slider, retuned speed ratings, and animation speed improvements. FB Dive fix contained here-in

[Houston]

** Creating sim style Gameplay- New Speed Differential slider, retuned speed ratings, and animation speed improvements. FB Dive fix contained here-in

Nice, I always wanted to know by what 40 times they decided to make the speed ratings.

I'd be 95+

[Aso]

NOTE: To be ultra clear, this is NOT the scale we use to determine the speed rating of a player! This showcases how fast a player runs 40 yards currently in our game based on the rating that he is given. Donny determines the actual speed ratings of the players based on many different factors...not just the 40 time of a player.

Very key quote right here. It seems like many ppl have misinterpreted what they were explaining there.

[dave]

Originally Posted by Madden NFL 10 Blog
NOTE: To be ultra clear, this is NOT the scale we use to determine the speed rating of a player! This showcases how fast a player runs 40 yards currently in our game based on the rating that he is given. Donny determines the actual speed ratings of the players based on many different factors...not just the 40 time of a player.



Which seems kinda stupid to me. If they run a 4.3 40, their speed rating should reflect that.
Why should some guy arbitrarily decided to downgrade or boost a guy's speed rating?

[Aso]

^ Thats not what they are saying.

[adembroski]

Originally Posted by Madden NFL 10 Blog
NOTE: To be ultra clear, this is NOT the scale we use to determine the speed rating of a player! This showcases how fast a player runs 40 yards currently in our game based on the rating that he is given. Donny determines the actual speed ratings of the players based on many different factors...not just the 40 time of a player.



Which seems kinda stupid to me. If they run a 4.3 40, their speed rating should reflect that.
Why should some guy arbitrarily decided to downgrade or boost a guy's speed rating?

C'mon, Dave, you're not that simple minded. There's a difference between a guy playing football and a guy running on the turf in Indy after he's been training for that event 8 hours a day for the past 4 months.

Jerry Rice trained for football. Consequently he ran a 4.6 at the combine. They still couldn't catch him. Football isn't a track meet.

[dave]

C'mon, Dave, you're not that simple minded. There's a difference between a guy playing football and a guy running on the turf in Indy after he's been training for that event 8 hours a day for the past 4 months.

Jerry Rice trained for football. Consequently he ran a 4.6 at the combine. They still couldn't catch him. Football isn't a track meet.

I absolutely, positively agree the 40 is not the be-all, end-all of sports measurements, but if a guy can run a 4.3, he can run a 4.3.
That's simply the speed attribute.

Other ratings should make receivers matter ... or matter more than those 4.3 guys.

For years, I've been annoyed as hell that Anquan Boldin is nothing more than a journeyman in Madden. It's time to change things like that ... which I think is where they are going.

[adembroski]

I absolutely, positively agree the 40 is not the be-all, end-all of sports measurements, but if a guy can run a 4.3, he can run a 4.3.
That's simply the speed attribute.

No. First off, you are almost never at full speed in the NFL. There's a difference between a dead sprint (as you are doing in the 40) and functional speed... the speed at which you can see, react, and read. The simple act of looking for a ball in flight slows you down.

The speed attribute in Madden represents functional speed, not track speed. A track speed attribute would be near useless.

Not only that, the 40 time is an inconsistent measurement. Yes, Indy is the best place to measure it... in a dome, controlled environment, laser timing, that's all great, but I personally was timed 5 times in HS, ran 4.69, 4.52, 4.42, and 5.36. Now, I'm not nearly a 4.42, but I'm sure as hell 5.36 either.

Any scout worth a damn will tell you, you can't compare 40 times. The only real value it has is at the extremes... 4.3 is fast, 4.8 is slow. Anything in between, throw away. If a guy stubbed his toe that morning, it can take a tenth off.

And this shit with measuring in hundreths, wtf is that?!?

Other ratings should make receivers matter ... or matter more than those 4.3 guys.

For years, I've been annoyed as hell that Anquan Boldin is nothing more than a journeyman in Madden. It's time to change things like that ... which I think is where they are going.

And giving him a speed attribute in line with his 40 will do that? I don't think he ran a very good one from what I can remember.

[dave]

No. First off, you are almost never at full speed in the NFL. There's a difference between a dead sprint (as you are doing in the 40) and functional speed... the speed at which you can see, react, and read. The simple act of looking for a ball in flight slows you down.

The speed attribute in Madden represents functional speed, not track speed. A track speed attribute would be near useless.

Not only that, the 40 time is an inconsistent measurement. Yes, Indy is the best place to measure it... in a dome, controlled environment, laser timing, that's all great, but I personally was timed 5 times in HS, ran 4.69, 4.52, 4.42, and 5.36. Now, I'm not nearly a 4.42, but I'm sure as hell 5.36 either.

Any scout worth a damn will tell you, you can't compare 40 times. The only real value it has is at the extremes... 4.3 is fast, 4.8 is slow. Anything in between, throw away. If a guy stubbed his toe that morning, it can take a tenth off.

And this shit with measuring in hundreths, wtf is that?!?



And giving him a speed attribute in line with his 40 will do that? I don't think he ran a very good one from what I can remember.

Again, I agree the 40-time isn't the be-all, end-all.

I want Boldin to be a top 10 receiver in Madden for reasons other than speed.

[adembroski]

Again, I agree the 40-time isn't the be-all, end-all.

I want Boldin to be a top 10 receiver in Madden for reasons other than speed.

You're missing my point here. 40 time being the end-all be-all of receiving isn't in question. The point you made was that it is the end all, be all of speed, and that's the point I'm contending.

[adembroski]

** Donny Moore has stated that salary cap increases are being returned in franchise mode and are, at the time of his statement, were in fact increasing too little. Player salaries are being retuned to fall in line with this, but ultimately it means no more ridiculous cap room figures.