MLB Chise Trade Talks

[The Messenger]

I need a fast shortstop in my chise. One who can get on base and can steal good (no Andino!).

Willing to offer: Jerry Hairston Jr/Willy Taveras and Homer Bailey

I'm the Reds.

[The Messenger]

What would I have to give the D-Backs to get 2B Felipe Lopez? He's 28 but has great speed and good contact. Could be my leadoff man.

[Lanteri]

I need a fast shortstop in my chise. One who can get on base and can steal good (no Andino!).

Willing to offer: Jerry Hairston Jr/Willy Taveras and Homer Bailey

I'm the Reds.

I can see the Sox unloading Julio Lugo for Hairston.

That's about all I can think of for fast shortstops, that are readily available. Most of the other fast ones (Rollins, Reyes, Furcal, Ramirez) wouldn't really go anywhere.

What would I have to give the D-Backs to get 2B Felipe Lopez? He's 28 but has great speed and good contact. Could be my leadoff man.

That one's tough, because the D'Backs are very thin at 2nd base.

[The Messenger]

I can see the Sox unloading Julio Lugo for Hairston.

That's about all I can think of for fast shortstops, that are readily available. Most of the other fast ones (Rollins, Reyes, Furcal, Ramirez) wouldn't really go anywhere.

What about Felipe Lopez of the Diamondbacks. He's a 2B but could play SS. What do I have to give up for him?

[Lanteri]

What about Felipe Lopez of the Diamondbacks. He's a 2B but could play SS. What do I have to give up for him?

I edited my reply into my last post after I saw your post, but like I said the D'Backs are pretty thin at second base so it's tough to say.

Hairston can play 2nd base, so I suppose if you gave them him and Bailey it would be realistic.

[The Messenger]

I was able to make this trade:

To Arizona:
Jerry Hairston Jr (2B/SS/OF)
Ramon Hernandez (C)
Homer Bailey (SP)

For:
Felipe Lopez (2B)
Jose Carmona (SP - 20 years old, B potential)
Elvin Pages (young catcher)

Should I do it?

[Lanteri]

I was able to make this trade:

To Arizona:
Jerry Hairston Jr (2B/SS/OF)
Ramon Hernandez (C)
Homer Bailey (SP)

For:
Felipe Lopez (2B)
Jose Carmona (SP - 20 years old, B potential)
Elvin Pages (young catcher)

Should I do it?

Nope.

D'Backs have Montero and Snyder, they don't need a catcher. And they certainly wouldn't give up a 20 year old pitcher with potential in exchange for that package.

[The Messenger]

Nope.

D'Backs have Montero and Snyder, they don't need a catcher. And they certainly wouldn't give up a 20 year old pitcher with potential in exchange for that package.

Man I thought I gave them a good deal lol. Hairston can play 2B, but he can also fill in everywhere else. Ramon Hernandez could start for them or he could mentor the younger catchers. And Homer Bailey is... Homer Bailey.

Guess not though. Gonna think up something else. Any options?

[Lanteri]

Man I thought I gave them a good deal lol. Hairston can play 2B, but he can also fill in everywhere else. Ramon Hernandez could start for them or he could mentor the younger catchers. And Homer Bailey is... Homer Bailey.

Guess not though. Gonna think up something else. Any options?

You'd be alright if you took Hernandez and Carmona out of the deal and just made it Hairston and Bailey for Lopez and the other random dude you had in there.

They wouldn't really want Hernandez to be mentoring their young pitchers anyway. He's got a reputation as being a lousy defensive catcher and a bad game caller. He's known for his bat.

[The Messenger]

I'm gonna play a couple more games and wait to see what I'm gonna do. I'll try and be more aggressive on the bases in the meantime and see if Phillips, Hairston, and Dickerson can cut it speed-wise.

[chazmaniandevil]

I was able to make this trade:

To Arizona:
Jerry Hairston Jr (2B/SS/OF)
Ramon Hernandez (C)
Homer Bailey (SP)

For:
Felipe Lopez (2B)
Jose Carmona (SP - 20 years old, B potential)
Elvin Pages (young catcher)

Should I do it?

bad bad trade for the d-backs

they just acquired lopez, have montero (offensive catcher, plays against rightys sometimes) and snyder (REALLY good defensive catcher)

try to rework it

[Vinsane]

All right, I read today that the Indians would trade Cliff Lee if he continues to struggle. It's interesting to me as I reach the trade deadline coming up relatively soon, and he's currently struggling in my chise as well. If you were to shop Cliff Lee who do you think I could get in return.

[chazmaniandevil]

All right, I read today that the Indians would trade Cliff Lee if he continues to struggle. It's interesting to me as I reach the trade deadline coming up relatively soon, and he's currently struggling in my chise as well. If you were to shop Cliff Lee who do you think I could get in return.

not much, he looks like a huge fluke

[Vinsane]

not much, he looks like a huge fluke

A fluke? You calling the Cy Young winner a Fluke? Tell me how many guys have repeated or done better than their best seasons? Not a lot, so Cliff Lee is no different. He was just THAT good at THAT time. Your still looking at the very least a three/four in the rotation pitcher, when he's horrible.

[Lanteri]

A fluke? You calling the Cy Young winner a Fluke? Tell me how many guys have repeated or done better than their best seasons? Not a lot, so Cliff Lee is no different. He was just THAT good at THAT time. Your still looking at the very least a three/four in the rotation pitcher, when he's horrible.

More like a 3/4 pitcher when he's playing at his normal level. When he's horrible, he shouldn't even be on a major league roster. Last year was an outlier, big time based on his career numbers. One good season makes not a career.

I called this in the MLB predictions thread. Lee's season last year was a gigantic fluke, and he will never come anywhere close to the numbers he put up again.