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great episode this week, but every scene between skylar and walt is excruciating. i almost fast forwarded their early scene this week even though i didnt know what was happening. Thank christ I didnt see anymore Marie... but I really think Skylar is killing the show. it's such an obvious weakness, such a silly thing for Walt to keep doing, I really need to see her on screen way less for this to keep up the BB trend of one season blowing away the previous.
I don't think Jesse can get killed off, Aaron Paul is just too important to the series. it would be the next Stringer Bell if they took him out. Jesse doesn't give a fuck though, and I really think we are watching him go down in flames, which is why the sig changes every week... we are watching a man with no soul, completely broken. Jesse is easily the most fascinating character, and Aaron Paul is carrying this season.
I'm thinking a possibility is that Walt may have tried to get Sal to talk to his guy to make Jesse disappear, and Sal's guy was actually Mike.
I'm hoping for this. As much as Jesse is a screw up, I'm still pulling for the guy. Skyler is as bitchy as ever, but I know this won't last. It's only a matter of time before Walt fucks her one way or another.
speculation on next week and a suddenly much deeper understanding of e4 after the second viewing:
I thought about this all day - and it was a long fucking day for me heh - I think Mike is going to take Jesse in and try to put an edge to him. Is there anyone better on the show to bring Jesse back? Mike is the coolest cat in the room at all times, and he is also a killer through and through. if there is anyone who can teach Jesse to cope with being a murderer it's Mike, who would also benefit the most from him being a stone cold killer. why?
Mike's ass is also on the line. If peace was ever made with the cartel, it's his head that Gus would offer up to make it happen, and even if Gus didn't sell him out, the cartel isn't going to suddenly forget that he's been dropping their bodies left and right. He's a marked man on both sides of that conflict, and if Jesse can somehow be taught to handle what happened, that's a favor he can call in, that's someone he can trust to have a serious bloodlust for Gus and everyone else who "broke him".
At some point, Jesse is going to have turn all this self hatred outward, and Mike can teach him to harness it. my guess is next week we see the two of them right along the border, at the front lines of the conflict with the cartel. if Mike was going to kill him, he'd have done it already, he wouldn't drive him so deep into the middle of nowhere like that. Did you see the look in Mike's eyes when Jesse immediately had the intelligence to realize that the bum wasn't going to be aced in his living room? he saw something there that he feels he can harness.
*edit* @ padman:
if that was the case, Mike wouldn't have clued in Gus first. minus that scene, I agree with you.
if that was the case, Mike wouldn't have clued in Gus first. minus that scene, I agree with you.
I also think Mike could have easily killed him in the house and disposed of the body or set it up to look like a drug-related killing instead of risking Jesse drawing attention to them as they were driving through the city.
The meeting with Gus may also be part of the plan to hide Jesse. Mike makes Gus think Jesse is dead and lying in some hole in the desert. Meanwhile, Jesse is starting a new life.
One of my favorite sequences ever on the show. Cranston did such an incredible job of portraying the suffocating torture he felt trapped in his middle-class family world. The first lines of the show are Hank saying Heisenberg is "like Scarface had sex with Mr. Rogers." He thinks he's talking about Gale but we know he's talking about Walt.And here, Walt is discovering he really enjoys the Scarface life more than the Mr. Rogers life, which was the stifling misery he was so happy to be leaving behind. Just a few seconds of drinking wine in the kitchen would be better at that moment then facing that mundane conversation about the car wash and the baby signage and all that crap. It's slowly killing him as opposed to quickly killing him (like working with Gus is likely to do).Now this isn't new for Walt. In s1e01 Walt pointed a gun at his own head and almost pulled the trigger. Later he almost drove right into an oncoming semi truck on the freeway. When he found out his cancer was in remission he punched a paper towel dispenser in frustration. Walt doesn't want to live anymore but he can't bring himself to commit suicide. All he wants is for Skyler and his two kids to be provided for before he does the inevitable: die.And until he's secured that, he will survive. He dodged a bullet at the end of s3 by having Jesse kill Gale. He'll do what he can to protect Jesse, and maybe Jesse's protection is one of the only things keeping him from suicide right now. But he is ready to go, and when he saw that Hank had given up on Heisenberg, and Walt was about to be sailing into middle age as a meth-cooking car wash owner with two kids and a wife who ****ed her boss (Ted Beneke, whose name he has to stare at on his own kid's goddam coffee mug), he knew he had to do something. So he planted a seed in Hank's mind so Hank would keep searching. Walt wants to get caught. And in the meantime, his ego won't let Hank think Gale, an assistant, was the real genius behind Heisenberg.I think this is the greatest show I've ever seen.
Damn. At the same time I'm glad to hear that, it still saddens me to be reading that next year will be the final year of the best show on TV. Alas, 16 hours of awesomeness for the final season sounds good to me.
Season I: 10-6 (NFC North Champions)
Season II: 9-7 (NFC North Champions)
Season III: 13-3 (NFC Champions)
Season IV: 11-5 (NFC North Champions)
Season V: 2-1
super glad that we know the show will have an ending. The Wire was a legendary tv show because it knew when it was going to end and it got a full story arc.
theres way too many shows to list that ended before they got the exclamation point. stargate universe, farscape, firefly (the movie kind of saved that though), even as far back as earth above and beyond... these kind of shows need to know when they are ending, so they get the ending they deserve.
on to this shows reaction
called it! Mike took Jesse under his wing. didnt see it coming that Gus had it planned all along, although I should have. Gustavo Fring doesn't become Gustavo Fring without that kind of intelligence. I had the right maneuver called, but not the right motivation. Gus is pumping Jesse's ego up. to what end, I won't speculate, but it's clearly part of the plan to get Jesse believing in himself again. I am super, super happy about this.
in regards to Walt. Walt's ego has always been his biggest downfall. he walked away from grey matter due to ego. he turned down elliot and gretchens money due to ego. and then he baited Hank into chasing down Heisenberg some more out of ego. there is abolutely nothing that is happening on his families front, outside of his children, that is good for Walt. Hank and Skylar will be the end of him. when my girlfriend and i saw drunk Walt, we both turned to each other and said "big mistake".
called it! Mike took Jesse under his wing. didnt see it coming that Gus had it planned all along, although I should have. Gustavo Fring doesn't become Gustavo Fring without that kind of intelligence. I had the right maneuver called, but not the right motivation. Gus is pumping Jesse's ego up. to what end, I won't speculate, but it's clearly part of the plan to get Jesse believing in himself again. I am super, super happy about this.
in regards to Walt. Walt's ego has always been his biggest downfall. he walked away from grey matter due to ego. he turned down elliot and gretchens money due to ego. and then he baited Hank into chasing down Heisenberg some more out of ego. there is abolutely nothing that is happening on his families front, outside of his children, that is good for Walt. Hank and Skylar will be the end of him. when my girlfriend and i saw drunk Walt, we both turned to each other and said "big mistake".
meh
I don't trust Gus or Mike. I think they might be setting Jesse up to get him busted and out of the picture. And/or kill him. I do think that Mike is going to bite it soon is some weird unexpected way though.
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