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[A Tasty Burgerr]

 

I think the only logical explanation for the knee is he got the Kobe injections. Good as new.

I thought the movie was good, but liked The Dark Knight much much better. In The Dark Knight the only motivation needed for The Joker doing what he did was that he was the Joker. For this one the reason and exact intentions as to why Bane was doing this was unclear, and the whole climax was kind of messy.

Then I really hated that after Bane was established as the charismatic genius behind it all, he was just suddenly downgraded to puppet status to make room for a twist. Up to that point I thought Bane was probably a better villain than Scarecrow at least, but he ended up being a pretty huge letdown. Not to mention his hugely anticlimactic death (?)/convenient removal from the final act.

Him being betrayed by his new love interest, the ticking bomb scenario, and Catwoman's "decision" whether or not to come back were all too familiar.

As far the ending I think completely thanks to Inception it would have been bad for him to leave it ambiguous. I think another than explicitly showing Wayne would have been to have Alfred show more emotion so it's implied without doubt that he's there, but this was not a film open for complete interpretation like Inception, and to end the trilogy on a note like that would be unfair and unnecessary.

[padman59]

Yes, there were huge plotholes concerning Bruce and his “journey”

 

Okay, I’ll buy the whole thing about the jailhouse chiropractor fixing him up, but that brings us back to the leg. Okay, once I let that slide and he makes the leap of death to climb out of the pit how does he even get back to America in a reasonable amount of time? He has no money and presumably no identification and looks like a refugee. Okay, let’s go with that.

 

IIRC, about twenty days passed between the time he left The Pit and when he made contact with Catwoman. That seems like a reasonable amount of time to get from wherever he was back to Gotham. As for how Bruce got there, remember that he left Gotham with nothing but the clothes on his back in Batman Begins and ended up somewhere in Southeast Asia before he was arrested, and I think this shows he's experienced enough to know how to travel without money or ID.

 

Once he gets anywhere near Gotham how the hell does he actually get into the city? Remember, he’s now on foot and all the bridges leading into the city have either been blown to shit or are heavily guarded by both Bane’s men AND the few remaining police.

 

My only guess is that he was able to navigate the patches of ice (he did have some training on a glacier in BB ). I imagine he would be able to get past the police/military without much problem, and there were probably a few holes in Bane's patrols to get onto the island. He probably stopped by the Batcave on the way to pick up some supplies to help him out.

 

Okay, he somehow gets in. Now, you’re telling me Bane found the entire arsenal Bruce and Lucius had stashed deep within the bowels of Wayne Enterprises but could never find this big ass plane just lying around in the middle of the street? See how slippery that slope is?

 

I do agree with this. It's hard to imagine someone wouldn't have at least stumbled upon the Bat in the five or so months that it was stashed away on top of that building.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

 

I liked the subtle Killer Croc reference.

I was kinda wishing JGL's real name would have been Dick.

[Swarley]

 

I liked the subtle Killer Croc reference.

I was kinda wishing JGL's real name would have been Dick.

 

I read something on IMDb that JGL's character is actually more of a combination of Grayson, Todd and Drake.

[A Tasty Burgerr]

 

I read something on IMDb that JGL's character is actually more of a combination of Grayson, Todd and Drake.

 

That's understandable, I was just hoping for something a little more subtle than "Robin". Not that it really matters lol.

I can't believe I didn't pick up on that the pit is the Lazarus Pit, I feel stupid now.

[jaxjaggywires]

In other news, Christian Bale visited with survivors of the theater shooting today in Colorado...good on him.

[jaxjaggywires]

And, seriously, do we have to keep using these damn spoiler tags? Anyone who hasn't seen the flick should really just stay out of this thread, dontcha think?

[Goober]

In other news, Christian Bale visited with survivors of the theater shooting today in Colorado...good on him.

[jaxjaggywires]

Yeah...he didn't go as Batman.

[Goober]

Yeah...he didn't go as Batman.

Yeah but the second picture is neat. Very nice of Bale to go though, apparently he went on his own, not representing the studio or anything.

[Houston]

Movie was a bit of a mess at times. One thing I liked about The Joker was that everything he did was pretty contained and believable, while his craziness made up for anything that only a mad men would do. But some of the action and sequences in this movie was way over the top .

[Jayrock]

Great way of putting it, HB. Everything the Joker (and Wayne) did was believable, while we are left wondering how they did some things in DRK.

I think part of the problem was too many characters and storylines to balance in a 2:30 movie. They could have left some out, like that random coward police chief, Holly, etc. I would have loved to see more Alfred after he left too. It didn't seem like is character to just go completely missing until the end, altough he did evoke a lot of emotion.

Did anyone else have trouble keeping track of time as well? It didn't seem at all like months had passed. It was all hard to follow in that regard.

It's almost like they could have split this into Part 1 and a Part 2 in six or eight months. They could have stopped at Batman getting his back "broken" by Bane and left it as a cliffhanger and had Part 2 later on. Instead, we saw less Alfred and they had more trouble showing how time passed to keep the movie at a reasonable length.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Movie was a bit of a mess at times. One thing I liked about The Joker was that everything he did was pretty contained and believable, while his craziness made up for anything that only a mad men would do. But some of the action and sequences in this movie was way over the top .

Different genre of film.

Dark Knight was a crime/caper/gangster film...Rises was a terrorist genre flick...obviously Rises was going to have a few elements that were going to be above the realm of realism...I mean, he is a member of the League of Shadows...the same League of Shadows that was able to sack Rome, create Economics, and probably even created the ancient floods.

[Ravin]

Great way of putting it, HB. Everything the Joker (and Wayne) did was believable, while we are left wondering how they did some things in DRK.

I think part of the problem was too many characters and storylines to balance in a 2:30 movie. They could have left some out, like that random coward police chief, Holly, etc. I would have loved to see more Alfred after he left too. It didn't seem like is character to just go completely missing until the end, altough he did evoke a lot of emotion.

Did anyone else have trouble keeping track of time as well? It didn't seem at all like months had passed. It was all hard to follow in that regard.

It's almost like they could have split this into Part 1 and a Part 2 in six or eight months. They could have stopped at Batman getting his back "broken" by Bane and left it as a cliffhanger and had Part 2 later on. Instead, we saw less Alfred and they had more trouble showing how time passed to keep the movie at a reasonable length.

Yeah I was having the same issue with time. It went from being normal weather, then all of a sudden its snowing and oh yeah, the water freezes over. And lets be fairly up front about this, it would take insane cold to get the water to freeze up enough where you could walk on it out a good distance. Gotham is in America, and I'm telling you in Canada you need to go North to find that happening. I have water all around me, and sure our little ponds freeze up, but major water ways with bridges and that don't even come close to that amount of ice.

Honestly looking back at this movie, I feel that Heath Ledger dying fucked the franchise. It just seems like it was put out because people wanted an ending and to wrap things up. If Ledger was still around to play the Joker we probably would have got some more movies, but once he died, just seems like the air went out of the tires. And the reason I think of this is because of the timeline of the movies. BB starts it off, and TDK is right after, no break in time basically. Then DKR is 8 years later. So you are telling me that in the say 9 years in the Batman Universe, the only people who showed up were Ras, Joker and Bane (scarecrow I guess)? No Riddler, Penguin, Mr. Freeze, or the slew of other villians in the Batman world?

It just to me seemed to perfect. End of the Dark Knight, Batman runs off to take the blame, the Dent Law comes in and the streets are cleaned up. Sorry, that just seems to easy. Like I said, it just seems like they came up with every easy way possible to tie up everything. And as JR said, the first couple of movies had that some what believeable factor to it. But now a nuclear bomb that will blow up everything, the President getting involved. Seems like Nolan had Bay on speed dial for this.

[citizenerased]

I view Bruce's physical problems at the start of the movie, as a mental crutch more then anything. Similar to Watson in the tv show Sherlock. Once Bruce got back into the swing of things, he forgot all about the pain. This is a nice quote, that sums up Bruce's storyline, and JGL's future post TDKR. "The training is nothing! The will is everything! The will to act."

Also, Nolan himself has suggested that he would like to see a Catwoman movie, starring Hathaway, although he himself will not direct. How bad ass would a Catwoman prequel be with Blackmask or the Falcone family being the antagonist?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

And I would rather see a JDL movie as Robin / Nightwing / Next Gen Batman and tie that in with the planned Justice League movie rather than a shitty Batman reboot directed by Sam Raimi or whatever abomination they no doubt plan on unleashing.

Yeah I was having the same issue with time. It went from being normal weather, then all of a sudden its snowing and oh yeah, the water freezes over. And lets be fairly up front about this, it would take insane cold to get the water to freeze up enough where you could walk on it out a good distance. Gotham is in America, and I'm telling you in Canada you need to go North to find that happening. I have water all around me, and sure our little ponds freeze up, but major water ways with bridges and that don't even come close to that amount of ice.

There was a 5 month gap between Bane blowing the bridges/stadium and the events at the conclusion of the movie - it isn't like it was one day sunny autumn football weather, than all of a sudden it snowed overnight.

And lol at bitching about Gotham not being far enough North for the water to freeze over, you just look desperate to bitch for the sake of bitching.