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  • EmpireWF
    Giants in the Super Bowl
    • Mar 2009
    • 24082

    #16
    Originally posted by FedEx227
    Pretty sure this isn't suspendable, so let's all calm down.
    Heyman says positive test not necessary if the allegations check out.

    Of course, A-Rod and Gio have come out and deny they ever were treated by the place in Miami.


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    • Youk
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 7998

      #17
      Originally posted by EmpireWF
      Of course, A-Rod and Gio have come out and deny they ever were treated by the place in Miami.


      Yea, ok.

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      • FedEx227
        Delivers
        • Mar 2009
        • 10454

        #18
        Originally posted by EmpireWF
        Heyman says positive test not necessary if the allegations check out.

        Of course, A-Rod and Gio have come out and deny they ever were treated by the place in Miami.
        How would that be suspendable under the same PED rules as a positive test administered by MLB? That seems really silly.
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        • EmpireWF
          Giants in the Super Bowl
          • Mar 2009
          • 24082

          #19
          Originally posted by FedEx227
          How would that be suspendable under the same PED rules as a positive test administered by MLB? That seems really silly.
          Nevermind, what i previously posted was about recreational drugs.

          MLB is/has been investigating so if they find any evidence, suspensions rain down.


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          • Youk
            Posts too much
            • Feb 2009
            • 7998

            #20
            Originally posted by FedEx227
            How would that be suspendable under the same PED rules as a positive test administered by MLB? That seems really silly.
            I agree with that partly. If it is blatant that a player (such as Arod) purchased these banned substances, then I think a suspension is in order. If you are just linked, there's no reason to suspend (as is the case for Gio right now). I'd have to see the actual rules for it to know for sure, though I'm not about to look them up now since I've got shit to do.

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            • FedEx227
              Delivers
              • Mar 2009
              • 10454

              #21
              Again though, and this shows just how shitty MLB's testing system is, who cares if you bought it? Then you have that trickle down of Gio Gonzalez saying "WELL I GOT IT FOR MY DAD!"

              Unless they test positive, I don't see how you can suspend them. Sends a really stupid/weird precedent.
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              • EmpireWF
                Giants in the Super Bowl
                • Mar 2009
                • 24082

                #22
                Okay, here's the answer you're looking for.

                It's called a non-analytical positive. Rick Ankiel was once suspended under that clause. Jordan Schafer was suspended a few years back despite not failing a drug test.

                Essentially, if there's evidence involving a player and banned substances but no actual failed piss or blood test, MLB can still issue punishments.


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                • FedEx227
                  Delivers
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 10454

                  #23
                  But JUST this year they'll have a test for HGH. Beautiful.
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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #24
                    Where is the full list of 14 players?

                    This reminds me of the Mitchell Report, when everybody was like "Haha, Alex Sanchez, who cares steroids must not work, amirite?"

                    Why are they only reporting half the story, here?

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                    • EmpireWF
                      Giants in the Super Bowl
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 24082

                      #25
                      Where'd you see the 14 number?


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                      • Warner2BruceTD
                        2011 Poster Of The Year
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 26142

                        #26
                        Originally posted by EmpireWF
                        Where'd you see the 14 number?
                        The OP.

                        And then I saw you mention Grandal (Yasmani?).

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                        • EmpireWF
                          Giants in the Super Bowl
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 24082

                          #27
                          Well, it seems like these accused players must be hoping that there's no evidence of delivered UPS/FedEx packages or signatures or transferred money.

                          If there's none of that and just the records of the scummy supplier, is that enough?

                          If you're the Yankees...is this a mini miracle if it turns out to be true in ARod's case? Gotta imagine they're having their attorneys look at his contract with the thought of voiding it on their mind.


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                          • Glenbino
                            Jelly and Ice Cream
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 4994

                            #28
                            No Halos.. Nice to see my favorite team keeping it natural.

                            (Nevermind that the 2002 WS team was 100% powered by Winstrol)

                            Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk 2

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                            • EmpireWF
                              Giants in the Super Bowl
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 24082

                              #29
                              FFS, then you read shit like this and are led to believe this is just the beginning.

                              As the Daily News first reported Saturday, federal investigators from the DEA and Florida, as well as MLB’s Department of Investigations, have been probing the link between Bosch and the Yankees’ third baseman, and as many as 20 other active players, for several months. According to sources, federal agents have already interview Bosch.

                              “It’s the tip of the iceberg,” said one law enforcement source.

                              http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz2JO8WQpGz


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                              • Warner2BruceTD
                                2011 Poster Of The Year
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 26142

                                #30
                                I, for one, am shocked, SHOCKED, that players are still casually cheating and beating the system. I thought the game was clean!

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