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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    Originally posted by FedEx227
    They could run a Princeton/backcut style offense and be unbeatable too.

    Spoelstra is a clown.
    Princeton would work but I'd prefer the offense that put Lebron in the mid post as much as possible. If the heat went small and got rid of Anthony in the lineup I'd at least mix some of those looks in but with their typical starting 5.. Triangle=rape.

    Originally posted by FedEx227
    I've got 4 plus a slide.

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    • ralaw
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 6663

      LOL, it is the NBA where traveling is really never called.

      Teaching the triangle is no easy task, but I've always felt James would be great in that type of system, because he wouldn't have to take so many dribbles to get a shot and he would be put in space one on one. Given his passing and playmaking ability he's be a monster. All he does now is pounds the ball and either gets to the rim or takes a fade away 3 point shot, which is very difficult even for him.

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      • dell71
        Enter Sandman
        • Mar 2009
        • 23919

        Originally posted by ralaw
        So, given Kobe's low shooting percentages in the "clutch" would you say he isn't clutch? Doubtful. I do agree with you in that the concept of being clutch gets to some guys, which causes them to not perform as they normally have, but its sad, because IMO being clutch is really only a fabrication.



        Yeah, its amazing how a guy can go from being clutch to unclutch within a week.
        Of course I wouldn't say that about Kobe. Then again, I don't say LeBron isn't clutch either (explained in my earlier post). Honestly, I don't even think we're disagreeing, just using different words. I think, and I could be wrong, that you're more referring to the media created perception of a guy being clutch or not and how it changes on a weekly, if not daily basis. I agree that it's ridiculous how that works, basically on the whims of ESPN and what they need to do to stir the pot. But on the court, you can see players act differently towards the end of tight games.

        Originally posted by JayRock
        Jesus Christ.

        I turned on the Heat/Clippers game toward the end of the third and figured I'd see what all the "LeBron sucks in the 4th" hype is about. He literally is the exact opposite of Tim Tebow. I thought a lot of his criticism was unwarranted until I watched the 4th Q and OT. And why does he shoot free throws so oddly? He has no bend in his knees. Just stands there and throws it at the hoop.

        Also, how the fuck can you be as talented as LeBron and not care about free throws? Look at Chauncey Billups shooting 97% from the line. There is literally no excuse for LBJ to not have a percentage like that. The guy is pure laziness and has been since entering the NBA.

        I still like LeBron and want to see him succeed but he still has a lot of growing up to do.
        Originally posted by JayRock
        The only excuse for him doing so poorly on free throws is laziness.

        Also I saw a stat yesterday that he's 0-4 from 3 on the season. What's that about?
        Nevermind the fact that no one on his team scored for like 10 minutes of game time, it's all on him and everyone bashing him is justified based on the one game you've watched. I guess that settles it.

        As for his FT shooting, he had a bad night. He came in to the game shooting 79% from the line, hardly a bad FT shooter. And if it were so easy for everyone to shoot 97% from the line, they would. Like ralaw said whatever his issues are laziness isn't one of them.

        You also apparently didn't listen to the game as you were watching. The announcers must've said 100x times how LBJ & Wade have pretty much abandoned the three-pointer and have committed to attacking the basket. They just aren't shooting them.

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        • ralaw
          Posts too much
          • Feb 2009
          • 6663

          Rick Bucher's top 7 NBA players.

          7.Russell Westbrook
          6.Dirk Nowitzki
          5.Dwayne Wade
          4.Dwight Howard
          3.Lebron James
          2.Derrick Rose
          1.

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          • Diivox
            It's the other way.
            • Apr 2009
            • 1773

            Rudi and I have made a forum bet on tonights Cavs/Suns games. winner picks losers username till 3 PM EST on Saturday (so as to avoid any potential playoff football jinxes).

            ITS NASHTERPIECE THEATER TIME IN CLEVELAND

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            • Rudi
              #CyCueto
              • Nov 2008
              • 9905

              Kyrie irving bout to get all up in that ass!

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              • Rudi
                #CyCueto
                • Nov 2008
                • 9905

                Kyrie

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                • Rudi
                  #CyCueto
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 9905

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                  • Primetime
                    Thank You Prince
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17526

                    Originally posted by JayRock
                    Jesus Christ.

                    I turned on the Heat/Clippers game toward the end of the third and figured I'd see what all the "LeBron sucks in the 4th" hype is about. He literally is the exact opposite of Tim Tebow. I thought a lot of his criticism was unwarranted until I watched the 4th Q and OT. And why does he shoot free throws so oddly? He has no bend in his knees. Just stands there and throws it at the hoop.

                    Also, how the fuck can you be as talented as LeBron and not care about free throws? Look at Chauncey Billups shooting 97% from the line. There is literally no excuse for LBJ to not have a percentage like that. The guy is pure laziness and has been since entering the NBA.

                    I still like LeBron and want to see him succeed but he still has a lot of growing up to do.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
                    Clearly has never watched an NBA game before.

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                    • zack54attack
                      Posts a lot
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4296

                      Originally posted by FedEx227
                      Originally posted by FirstTimer



                      I've got 4 plus a slide.


                      I see 4 steps and a crab dribble


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                      • FedEx227
                        Delivers
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 10454

                        I did probably count the crab dribble as a few extra steps.
                        VoicesofWrestling.com

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                        • Uman85
                          Noob
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 3

                          Lebron travels so much they need to rename his shoe "South Beach Airlines".

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                          • FedEx227
                            Delivers
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10454

                            The Classical's (FreeDarko) Bethlehem Shoals does a really good job of looking at the psyche of LeBron. Really good article if you get a chance to read.


                            Another week, another pair of cryptic, if not particularly interesting, LeBron James wrecks. Against the Warriors on Tuesday, a disembodied LeBron did nothing to prevent Golden State from stealing away with the overtime win. All it would have taken was a few made free throws. Wednesday, it was Chris Paul and the Clippers. In the fourth quarter, James at least tried, dancing past defenders and getting to the rim. Maybe the presence of his cutthroat lil’ buddy CP3 spurred him on. But the ball left LeBron’s hands wan and flat, as if it had lost all will to roll into the basket and live. Again with the overtime, the missed free throws, and coughed-up loss.

                            As James put his finishing touches on another disastrous performance, I took to Twitter—where good people meet to rationally debate and summarize important topics of the day—with a simple question: if LeBron James isn't the best player in the NBA, who is? Any query or assertion with "best" in it means very little, since it can almost always be replaced with more precise language. In LeBron's case, though, this kind of bland, overarching distinction is apt. It may tell us that LeBron’s gifts are quite often meaningless. Or it points to exactly what it is we expect of LeBron James: complete and total perfection, a standard no other athlete is held to.

                            Other superstars are more specialized—that is, defined in terms of what they do well on the basketball court. Dwight Howard envelops the interior, Chris Paul reconstitutes a possession's logic off the slightest bum cue. LeBron is a completist, a 30-7-7 superman who can feasibly do work at every position on the floor. I'm not here to defend LeBron's shortcomings, or suggest he has none. James lacks intangibles; his ego remains unsteady and awkward; his jumper ain't pretty; his late-game disappearances are either bad luck or a sign of deeper unrest. The fact remains, though, that LeBron James isn’t judged according to any particular function of set of responsibilities. A good game for LeBron is one where he takes over so thoroughly and so completely that basketball seems too small for him.

                            Typically, we accept that even the most accomplished athletes can only do so much. It's called position, mortality, or just plain common sense; Michael Jordan, great as he was, couldn't do everything. James exists in another, far harsher, sphere of meaning. His point of comparison isn't his peers, past or present; this isn’t Kobe Bryant having to wait ten years to get out of Jordan’s shadow and earn recognition as his own man. LeBron James has a different kind of problem: he is always competing against himself, or what we know he can do. There's an imperative there for LeBron James for rule the sport. Acquire the bomb and you best come correct, as they say.

                            LeBron James disappears and wilts under pressure, but is very rarely seen as having been defeated. If James were simply being himself, much of his game would be a no-brainer. That's why LeBron provokes such broad, and nasty, emotions, longing and desperation cloaked in hate. James isn't the guy who comes up short. He's the guy who has no right to come up short and does anyway.

                            Against the Clippers, his hopeless moves to the basket bore some resemblance to this game-winner against the Wizards in the 2006 playoffs. Eric Freeman pointed to that bucket as a turning point, the moment when everyone realized that, in theory, there were no limits to what LeBron James could do on a basketball court. Games are closed out with jumpers, not by exploding past three defenders in traffic for an uncontested lay-in. While he showed up in the league fully-formed and better than advertised, it took a few seasons for us to truly realize what we were watching. At his best, LeBron causes one to reconsider the structure of the sport. Maybe it's too easy. Maybe they should raise the hoop. It's maddening that James can't live up to his calling, but also a little comforting. We hate him for what he can do; we also hate him for not doing it.

                            With the Cavaliers, LeBron never had enough of a team. The premise of “The Decision” was that James had to extricate himself from an imperfect set of conditions that had held him back. For James to come into his own and become that prophetic figure so many in the sport took him to be (Cleveland saw him as prophetic for totally different reasons), he needed an adequate supporting cast. Instead, he chose the Heat, betraying his own myth by going from a lousy situation to an overly cushy one. Yet Miami has always been a team cast in LeBron’s image. They won’t chase down and batter history until they go 82-0 (or 66-0); they may not even have the league’s top record in any given season. Winning one ring won’t be enough—nor would two, three, or four.

                            At its most staid, this system is a form of harm reduction, the Heat trying to keep from beating themselves. Cole and Chalmers are useful in part because their motion and penetration clears out more room. Most teams want role players taking open shots; the Heat need them to get out of the damn way. When this year’s Heat is truly rolling, though, they threaten, like LeBron himself, to overcome basketball. The estimable Tom Ziller currently has every member of the Big Three listed as MVP candidates. There is simply no way to defense against a team that roars down the floor, looking for the dunk or quick score, and then uses James, Wade, and Bosh interchangeably, and simultaneously, as both hubs and principle threats. Instead of confusing themselves, they confuse opponents used to identifying hierarchy, match-ups, and repetition. At their best, none of these things apply to the Heat. Basketball doesn’t really apply.

                            This isn’t exactly a revolutionary approach. It’s not exposing or exploiting a weakness in convention, as Mike D’Antoni’s Suns once did. This asymmetric approach can bring about collapse or decay; it’s why the Suns’ most lasting contributions to the game have been other teams’ reactions to their run. Asymmetry is, of course, both ideally suited to and a natural outgrowth of teams with a certain lack to them. That’s how guerrilla teams, like those Suns or the 2007 Warriors, succeed. The Heat don’t use their weaknesses to their advantages; they use excess as a means of short-circuiting the game itself. For all of us watching, their meltdowns both a relief and strangely unsettling. When we lash out, it’s because we don’t know if we want James and the Heat to crash and burn or run through the sport without incident.
                            VoicesofWrestling.com

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                            • NAHSTE
                              Probably owns the site
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 22233

                              Excellent piece indeed.

                              Proving once again,


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                              • nwfisch
                                No longer a noob
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1365

                                Bulls

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