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2008 New England Patriots - 589 Points
1999 Minnesota Vikings - 556 Points
40 TD's combined in these two seasons.
Where does he rank all time for you as a WR? Will he ever surpass Rice?
He can never surpass Rice, because of the Super Bowls, the records, and the overall commitment to the game. Can't call someone the best WR if he has admitted to not trying every play, just can't do it. Even without that, I still don't think he'd ever be able to surpass Rice. As brilliant as he's been at times, Moss is nowhere near as consistent as Jerry Rice was throughout his career.
When it's all said and done, I'd put him in my top 5 as far as all-time WRs, and physically he may be the most gifted ever, but with 0 rings and the whole taking plays off thing, he's got no shot at ever catching the GOAT.
I think if him and Tom can continue to have to have a few more real productive years, then he'll get close to Rice's TDs. That two year vacation in Oakland really hurt him (statistically) .
I think he's roughly 60 TDs away from Rice. And he's only 32, and that's relatively young for a WR, especially one who doesn't have a lot of injury problems.
Records or not, I think Rice solidified himself as the greatest WR of all time.
Yes, but has Moss made the same commitment to his body each offseason that Rice became famous for? Because very few WRs can maintain production late into their 30s like Jerry did.
It would not surprise me if Moss became an average WR later in his career because once his speed goes, he doesn't strike me as the type of player who will reinvent himself as a possession receiver and continue to be productive. We're talking about a guy who took plays off in his prime, what makes you certain he's gonna get 60 more TDs in the twilight of his career?
rice is greatest but moss will end up top 3, his 17 tds as a rookie will never be broken in my opinion, and even if you go back to his college days he had crazy numbers
One of those first guys that showed he doesn't need a quarterback to be good, and always made teams around him play better then they really were.
Made Randall Cunningham look like he could still play ball, kept Culpepper alive for many seasons, the guy does so much that it doesn't demand much from the QB position aside from the strength to get the ball deep, accuracy wise it really doesn't matter, as long as you throw the ball high, Moss is coming down with it.
#2 already, maybe #1 in time, MAYBE, not likely, but MAYBE.
He'll never surpass Rice, because Rice won championships, never made himself bigger than the team, and never just outright quit like Moss did in Oakland.
Originally posted by BORN4CORN
TOP 5 WR's of all time (imo)
1. Jerry Rice
2. Chris Carter
3. Michael Irving
4. Tim Brown
5. Andre Reed/T.O./Largent/Moss/Swann/Monk
I can see Moss having 2 or 3 more big years, and at least one Super Bowl win.. That will make him top 3 material without a doubt.
Moss better than everyone on that list but Rice ... and if you're gonna pretend to know something about football, the least you could do is spell Irvin's name correctly. Geez.
Not sure how anyone can say Carter or Irvin > Moss
Moss already ranks 3rd all time in touchdowns and is only 31 years old. Moss will pass Cris Carter in yardage as well this year, at the age of 31. He's already passed Irvin.
He'll be #2 or #1 in touchdowns and #1 or #2 in yards when all is said and done.
If Tom Brady and Randy Moss finish out the rest of their NFL careers together in New England theres no doubt in my mind that Moss will be the best receiver ever.
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