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  • Len B
    :moonwalk:
    • Oct 2008
    • 13598

    Randy Moss



    Two highest NFL scoring seasons of all-time:

    2008 New England Patriots - 589 Points
    1999 Minnesota Vikings - 556 Points

    40 TD's combined in these two seasons.



    Where does he rank all time for you as a WR? Will he ever surpass Rice?
  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    #2
    Originally posted by Len B


    Two highest NFL scoring seasons of all-time:

    2008 New England Patriots - 589 Points
    1999 Minnesota Vikings - 556 Points

    40 TD's combined in these two seasons.



    Where does he rank all time for you as a WR? Will he ever surpass Rice?
    He can never surpass Rice, because of the Super Bowls, the records, and the overall commitment to the game. Can't call someone the best WR if he has admitted to not trying every play, just can't do it. Even without that, I still don't think he'd ever be able to surpass Rice. As brilliant as he's been at times, Moss is nowhere near as consistent as Jerry Rice was throughout his career.

    When it's all said and done, I'd put him in my top 5 as far as all-time WRs, and physically he may be the most gifted ever, but with 0 rings and the whole taking plays off thing, he's got no shot at ever catching the GOAT.

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    • Sharkweather
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 8906

      #3
      If he hadn't had that stint in Oakland and kept up his typical production for his entire career, perhaps he could've surpassed Rice.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #4
        Originally posted by ShimSham
        I think if him and Tom can continue to have to have a few more real productive years, then he'll get close to Rice's TDs. That two year vacation in Oakland really hurt him (statistically) .

        I think he's roughly 60 TDs away from Rice. And he's only 32, and that's relatively young for a WR, especially one who doesn't have a lot of injury problems.


        Records or not, I think Rice solidified himself as the greatest WR of all time.
        Yes, but has Moss made the same commitment to his body each offseason that Rice became famous for? Because very few WRs can maintain production late into their 30s like Jerry did.

        It would not surprise me if Moss became an average WR later in his career because once his speed goes, he doesn't strike me as the type of player who will reinvent himself as a possession receiver and continue to be productive. We're talking about a guy who took plays off in his prime, what makes you certain he's gonna get 60 more TDs in the twilight of his career?
        Last edited by NAHSTE; 08-07-2009, 12:26 AM.

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        • Tengo Juego
          Posts a lot
          • Jun 2009
          • 4289

          #5
          I have no problem saying Randy Moss is second or third all time. Don Hutson was supposed to be a damn good WR. But I never saw him play so...

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          • Coked Up Elmo
            omle pu dekoc
            • Jul 2009
            • 1259

            #6
            rice is greatest but moss will end up top 3, his 17 tds as a rookie will never be broken in my opinion, and even if you go back to his college days he had crazy numbers
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            • ThunderHorse
              Grind.
              • Nov 2008
              • 2702

              #7
              Nah,

              Moss is #2, arguably #1 if he finishes out strong

              One of those first guys that showed he doesn't need a quarterback to be good, and always made teams around him play better then they really were.

              Made Randall Cunningham look like he could still play ball, kept Culpepper alive for many seasons, the guy does so much that it doesn't demand much from the QB position aside from the strength to get the ball deep, accuracy wise it really doesn't matter, as long as you throw the ball high, Moss is coming down with it.

              #2 already, maybe #1 in time, MAYBE, not likely, but MAYBE.

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              • Tengo Juego
                Posts a lot
                • Jun 2009
                • 4289

                #8
                Originally posted by BORN4CORN
                TOP 5 WR's of all time (imo)

                1. Jerry Rice
                2. Chris Carter
                3. Michael Irving
                4. Tim Brown

                5. Andre Reed/T.O./Largent/Moss/Swann/Monk

                I can see Moss having 2 or 3 more big years, and at least one Super Bowl win.. That will make him top 3 material without a doubt.
                I dont put 2-4 ahead of Moss. Just my opinion. (Based on skill/talent, not rings)

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                • ThunderHorse
                  Grind.
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2702

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BORN4CORN
                  Kerry Collins... Oakland Raiders.
                  I'm not including the time period where Moss didn't feel like playing

                  I figured that'd be picked up.

                  conventional wisdom

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                  • trojan49er
                    Something Clever
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2290

                    #10
                    If Moss and Brady keep having productive years, Moss has a chance to be the #2 WR of all time, but he cant even come close to 80

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                    • dave
                      Go the fuck outside
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 15492

                      #11
                      He'll never surpass Rice, because Rice won championships, never made himself bigger than the team, and never just outright quit like Moss did in Oakland.



                      Originally posted by BORN4CORN
                      TOP 5 WR's of all time (imo)

                      1. Jerry Rice
                      2. Chris Carter
                      3. Michael Irving
                      4. Tim Brown
                      5. Andre Reed/T.O./Largent/Moss/Swann/Monk

                      I can see Moss having 2 or 3 more big years, and at least one Super Bowl win.. That will make him top 3 material without a doubt.
                      Moss better than everyone on that list but Rice ... and if you're gonna pretend to know something about football, the least you could do is spell Irvin's name correctly. Geez.
                      Last edited by dave; 08-07-2009, 01:10 AM.
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                      • Derrville
                        Dallas has no coaching...
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5321

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BORN4CORN
                        TOP 5 WR's of all time (imo)

                        1. Jerry Rice
                        2. Chris Carter
                        3. Michael Irvin
                        4. Tim Brown
                        5. Andre Reed/T.O./Largent/Moss/Swann/Monk

                        I can see Moss having 2 or 3 more big years, and at least one Super Bowl win.. That will make him top 3 material without a doubt.

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                        • Len B
                          :moonwalk:
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 13598

                          #13
                          Not sure how anyone can say Carter or Irvin > Moss

                          Moss already ranks 3rd all time in touchdowns and is only 31 years old. Moss will pass Cris Carter in yardage as well this year, at the age of 31. He's already passed Irvin.

                          He'll be #2 or #1 in touchdowns and #1 or #2 in yards when all is said and done.

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                          • BUCK3YE5
                            CP 2K12
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1410

                            #14
                            When the Patriots go undefeated this year and win every game by double digits Randy Moss will surpass Jerry Rice.

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                            • j.hen
                              Self Care
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 10058

                              #15
                              If Tom Brady and Randy Moss finish out the rest of their NFL careers together in New England theres no doubt in my mind that Moss will be the best receiver ever.

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