'Dreams are coming true': Rookie Sanchez is Jets' starting QB

[Aso]

the Jets will lose their first 4 games

[ram29jackson]

and the reason they didnt is because the league is weak due to parity hahahaha

[Aso]

and the reason they didnt is because the league is weak due to parity hahahaha

So don't act like that just came about. Since free agency has begun in the early 90's there has been a lot of parity in the league which is what it was designed for. Seriously stop with that lame excuse and just own up to what you said and say you were wrong. Don't think of some bogus excuse to make yourself look less dumb.

[ram29jackson]

So don't act like that just came about. Since free agency has begun in the early 90's there has been a lot of parity in the league which is what it was designed for. Seriously stop with that lame excuse and just own up to what you said and say you were wrong. Don't think of some bogus excuse to make yourself look less dumb.

its sports, I gain or lose nothing talking about it haha

just because the league designed it this way doesnt mean its right, interesting or good.

the problem I have with parity is -when youre good,youre not really that good. And when youre bad, youre usually horrible. Parity makes for a not so good league/teams over all.

[Juggernaut]

To Ram29Jackson,

You say that the parity of the leauge is weak, and I'm assuming that you've come to this conclusion after last year and the beginning of this season. If so, why did you predict the Jets to go 0-4? Obviously you didn't think the leauge was that bad when you predicted them to go winless in the first month, and gave them the benefit of 1 win at best in the first 4 games. Did the leauge become weaker for no reason, since FA and the draft already took place and had to account in your prediction of 0-4.

Please respond without attacking grammar and/or details irrelevant to the question.

Thanks,
Dave G. L.

[ram29jackson]

To Ram29Jackson,

You say that the parity of the leauge is weak, and I'm assuming that you've come to this conclusion after last year and the beginning of this season. If so, why did you predict the Jets to go 0-4? Obviously you didn't think the leauge was that bad when you predicted them to go winless in the first month, and gave them the benefit of 1 win at best in the first 4 games. Did the leauge become weaker for no reason, since FA and the draft already took place and had to account in your prediction of 0-4.

Please respond without attacking grammar and/or details irrelevant to the question.

Thanks,
Dave G. L.

Actually, since the ravens won the SB I think parity has wreaked havoc. The Bears getting there was ugly as well.

Actually, I laughed to myself with that prediction. I thought "yeah, the jets will win 2 , maybe 3 games, purely on defense. But it irks me because i dont think that many Qbs should be doing that well early on. They dont know the playbook, cant make reads / audibles etc. Saying someone is a game manager and thats all you need is pathetic. If you are a game manager, you are behind the starter. the jets are 4-0 and thats great for them. but its only because they drew the right parity stick this year. not because of any superior cohesive talent on their side.

Second and third stringers were the guys you developed for a year or two until they knew the system and were practiced and ready. now those 2nd and 3rd stringers are starting for teams in their first year with them. Therefore the over all quality of play is weaker.

hey, if the jets do well, what do I care . It keeps the Patriots out of the picture haha

[Juggernaut]

Actually, since the ravens won the SB I think parity has wreaked havoc. The Bears getting there was ugly as well.

Actually, I laughed to myself with that prediction. I thought "yeah, the jets will win 2 , maybe 3 games, purely on defense. But it irks me because i dont think that many Qbs should be doing that well early on. They dont know the playbook, cant make reads / audibles etc. Saying someone is a game manager and thats all you need is pathetic. If you are a game manager, you are behind the starter. the jets are 4-0 and thats great for them. but its only because they drew the right parity stick this year. not because of any superior cohesive talent on their side.

Second and third stringers were the guys you developed for a year or two until they knew the system and were practiced and ready. now those 2nd and 3rd stringers are starting for teams in their first year with them. Therefore the over all quality of play is weaker.

hey, if the jets do well, what do I care . It keeps the Patriots out of the picture haha

Finally, a good response. Does it irk me that rookies are doing so well? Of course, there's a reason Aaron rodgers sat on the bench for x amount of years, its so he could develop. The thing is, these kids nowadays are getting better, they play at a semi-professional level at college such as USC and Sanchez. A majority of VSN believes that the rookies and sophmore Qb's (Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez) are better than the rest because of sheer talent and will, and i agree, i believe we are seeing a new era where the playbooks become simpler and rookies are able to contribute right away. Does simpler playbooks = lower parity? I wouldnt agree with that because the three QB's dont have to do it alone, each has a strong compliment. Flacco and Sanchez have amazing defenses while Ryan had turner to hand the ball off to.

[ram29jackson]

Finally, a good response. Does it irk me that rookies are doing so well? Of course, there's a reason Aaron rodgers sat on the bench for x amount of years, its so he could develop. The thing is, these kids nowadays are getting better, they play at a semi-professional level at college such as USC and Sanchez. A majority of VSN believes that the rookies and sophmore Qb's (Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez) are better than the rest because of sheer talent and will, and i agree, i believe we are seeing a new era where the playbooks become simpler and rookies are able to contribute right away. Does simpler playbooks = lower parity? I wouldnt agree with that because the three QB's dont have to do it alone, each has a strong compliment. Flacco and Sanchez have amazing defenses while Ryan had turner to hand the ball off to.

certain players have more talent and thats great . Just because they are doing well doesnt mean they are, as of yet ,comparable to really good players yet. Because of free agency etc. most teams are glorified pick-up teams that are winning on who ever has the better horse at the time and not cohesive ,practiced execution.

IE- are those 3, plus others looking good because of talent or do they look that good because everything around them isnt that professionally strong.

if you have players moving around due to free agency and too many young guys starting you are not getting the best you can get. You are getting the worlds most expensive pick up game.

Am I complaining haha , no. i am a sports fan. I like the feel, shape, color and design, tactics and back and forth of the game of football ! But mathematically, logically and culturally you are not getting the best product you could get at this time.

[Mogriffjr]

Actually, since the ravens won the SB I think parity has wreaked havoc. The Bears getting there was ugly as well.

Actually, I laughed to myself with that prediction. I thought "yeah, the jets will win 2 , maybe 3 games, purely on defense. But it irks me because i dont think that many Qbs should be doing that well early on. They dont know the playbook, cant make reads / audibles etc. Saying someone is a game manager and thats all you need is pathetic. If you are a game manager, you are behind the starter. the jets are 4-0 and thats great for them. but its only because they drew the right parity stick this year. not because of any superior cohesive talent on their side.

Second and third stringers were the guys you developed for a year or two until they knew the system and were practiced and ready. now those 2nd and 3rd stringers are starting for teams in their first year with them. Therefore the over all quality of play is weaker.

hey, if the jets do well, what do I care . It keeps the Patriots out of the picture haha

Yeah exactly...because you don't think QB's should be doing well early on, you believe it's due to parity in the league or weak teams.

The bottom line is Sanchez has been said to know the playbook early on and learned it and the only thing stopping him was the execution on the field and in preseason, he proved it.

You watch the games the Jets have played and honestly, I can say that Sanchez has been MORE consistent than the running game.

Saying they drew the right parity stick isn't fair and discrediting what the Jets have done so far this year. Coming into this season, I saw Fox thought that the Jets would start 0-5 BECAUSE of the uncertainty at QB and the surrounding cast mostly. They started out with the Texans, who many felt was a darkhorse to become a wildcard team with a potentially great offense and a good front 7. The Patriots, who with Brady, were easily one of the top favorites to make/win the SB this year. The Titans, who very little thought they wouldn't drop off from last year...and hell going into that game last week, the Titans were more of a favorite to win because of Fisher and their "desperate" nature for a win. They have the Saints next, who may have the NFL's most balanaced offensive attack.

They came into this season facing let's see from last year's standings...an 8-8 Texans team (expected to improve), Pats with Brady back (expected to improve from 11-5!!), a Titans team (playoff team last year), Saints (expected to improve) and Fins (playoff team). They drew a tough schedule to start and so far, the Jets have exceeded expectations. Sanchez has exceeded expectations so far and has played very good so far this year.

[ram29jackson]

Yeah exactly...because you don't think QB's should be doing well early on, you believe it's due to parity in the league or weak teams.

The bottom line is Sanchez has been said to know the playbook early on and learned it and the only thing stopping him was the execution on the field and in preseason, he proved it.

You watch the games the Jets have played and honestly, I can say that Sanchez has been MORE consistent than the running game.

Saying they drew the right parity stick isn't fair and discrediting what the Jets have done so far this year. Coming into this season, I saw Fox thought that the Jets would start 0-5 BECAUSE of the uncertainty at QB and the surrounding cast mostly. They started out with the Texans, who many felt was a darkhorse to become a wildcard team with a potentially great offense and a good front 7. The Patriots, who with Brady, were easily one of the top favorites to make/win the SB this year. The Titans, who very little thought they wouldn't drop off from last year...and hell going into that game last week, the Titans were more of a favorite to win because of Fisher and their "desperate" nature for a win. They have the Saints next, who may have the NFL's most balanaced offensive attack.

They came into this season facing let's see from last year's standings...an 8-8 Texans team (expected to improve), Pats with Brady back (expected to improve from 11-5!!), a Titans team (playoff team last year), Saints (expected to improve) and Fins (playoff team). They drew a tough schedule to start and so far, the Jets have exceeded expectations. Sanchez has exceeded expectations so far and has played very good so far this year.

I'm sorry ,but no rookie Qb can know the playbook early on. It takes 3 years to trully understand a system and feel good about audibling etc.

the jets exceeding expectations- so called- doesnt mean they are good. it just means parity is in full effect. Thats just a flat statement/opinion. try not to make it personal, please.

[Woy]

I'm sorry ,but no rookie Qb can know the playbook early on. It takes 3 years to trully understand a system and feel good about audibling etc.

the jets exceeding expectations- so called- doesnt mean they are good. it just means parity is in full effect. Thats just a flat statement/opinion. try not to make it personal, please.

So you're telling me that Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco don't completely understand their own playbooks? Or that they can't audible into different plays confidently?

Seriously GTFO.

[ram29jackson]

So you're telling me that Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco don't completely understand their own playbooks? Or that they can't audible into different plays confidently?

Seriously GTFO.

I am quoting professional players and coaches.
I am saying they dont know enough to be that proficient at the QB position.
They know more than a year ago,which is good. But doesnt disprove my statement

[Woy]

I am quoting professional players and coaches.
I am saying they dont know enough to be that proficient at the QB position.
They know more than a year ago,which is good. But doesnt disprove my statement

If you're quoting someone, please state their name and use quotation marks asshole.

And I would like to know who is saying this. Maybe Harold Jackson?

[Aso]

The way players are always around team facilities and how the season seriously never ends it wouldn't surprise me if by a players second year he knows the entire playbook and can do all the audibling etc.

Supposedly it took Nate Davis 2 1/2 years to learn the ins and outs his college playbook and he has a learning disability.

[ram29jackson]

If you're quoting someone, please state their name and use quotation marks asshole.

And I would like to know who is saying this. Maybe Harold Jackson?

its a fact understood league wide.