Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[dave]

I guess you're asking me to nit-pick. Will return with my First Timer posting kit tomorrow when I have time to do so.

However, before I do...Warner, you're a #goodkid, but there are times, like this one, where I question if you know what you're watching. You're better than this, Warner. Could you spell cat if I spotted you the C and the T? I'm not quite sure right now.

You're not allowed to steal lines I already stole from the 70s.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The pick six was a tipped ball, but the first pick was an awful, awful throw. Just terrible, really.

Not going to rant on you per se...but why in the fuck does this narrative come around with fans when trying to defend a pass? A ball that is tipped (especially at the line) is actually one of the worst passes/decisions a quarterback can make.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

God clearly hates white receivers in the Super Bowl.

Very likely. But I'm pretty sure there's a slew of QBs wouldn't have missed so many guys or overthrown so many other passes. Manning was clearly shaken and pressing.
Yup Seattle had the better team but AGAIN if your "team" is good enough for 55-10 greatest scoring offense ever , stellar performance against a genius like bellycheck...don't tell me how bad his team is when he's scoring 8 points and calling draw plays on 3rd and long down by a million.

You guys are missing how important intangibles , handling pressure , and leadership are in these games.
Joe Montana is down by 3 , with 3 mins in the game , down on his own 8 yard line...mother fucker is playing spot the celebs in the stands with his lineman. Leads his team on a 92 yard TD drive. 4 SuperBowls ZERO picks.

Manning comes out on play ONE screws up the signals and watches the ball sail over his head on the first snap , quits on the fumble recovery and looks like a defeated man for 4 quarters.
Manning's done enough to be no.2 on my list. I'll accept 3rd if an old timer wants to say Unitas. But GOAT. Comon that's just self indulgence.

[dave]

Not going to rant on you per se...but why in the fuck does this narrative come around with fans when trying to defend a pass? A ball that is tipped (especially at the line) is actually one of the worst passes/decisions a quarterback can make.

Yes ... a QB chooses to pass when he knows the throw will be tipped. Please. He threw 2 INTs, not 6. Jeez.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Every Broncos player laid down and didn't give Manning even a little bit of help. The great quarterbacks in history such as Joe Montana had great or at least good receivers, Jerry Rice for one, and also good offensive lines.

Plays like the Thomas fumble, well that was just laziness. He got hit in the chest and by the time the defender's hand was where it needed to be to strip the ball loose, the ball was at Thomas' waist. That's an example of a really good drive by Manning terribly thrown to waste by the rest of the Broncos team. The two picks both happened because the O-line let the Seahawks get to Manning to force hurried/tipped throws.

The first player on that team to lay down was Manning on the first play.
No surprise the rest of the team played like wtf am I doing here when your captain and leader folds that quickly.
You Montana argument has been covered and exposed already go back and read up.

[dave]

Manning comes out on play ONE screws up the signals and watches the ball sail over his head on the first snap , quits on the fumble recovery and looks like a defeated man for 4 quarters.
Manning's done enough to be no.2 on my list. I'll accept 3rd if an old timer wants to say Unitas. But GOAT. Comon that's just self indulgence.

Quits on fumble recovery? Really? Clearly Moreno was already there and Manning is a 37-year-old old dude who already saw he wasn't recovering that fumble.

[Liquidrob]

I love this thread, putting all the points together Manning was pretty amazing, none of his picks were his fault and he was the only one playing hard while the rest of the team and the coach laid downed

The legend continues...

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

John Fox laid down.

If you wanna talk "bottom 10" something, that was a bottom ten coached game.

Going for it on 4th and 2 bypassing an easy FG was a very wtf moment.
Not only do you tell your Defense you don't have faith , but you forego football psychology 101 by getting those first points up on the board.

That team wanted to go home. Even in a loss you could make a statement and battle back and make a point. These guys just mailed it in.

[Bomberooski]

I just want to get in here and say: Seahawks, World Champions!!!!!


PS. Peyton is still pretty freaking awesome.

[spursup]

The first player on that team to lay down was Manning on the first play.
No surprise the rest of the team played like wtf am I doing here when your captain and leader folds that quickly.
You Montana argument has been covered and exposed already go back and read up.

Moreno was already there on that first play. Manning had no shot at it without getting hurt, and it was going to be a safety anyway. Therefore he decided to give his team a shot by staying in the whole game instead of making the Broncos rely on inexperienced Brock Osweiler. That's not laying down, that's playing smart.

[JimLeavy59]

The first player on that team to lay down was Manning on the first play.
No surprise the rest of the team played like wtf am I doing here when your captain and leader folds that quickly.
You Montana argument has been covered and exposed already go back and read up.

This post gave me HIV.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Moreno was already there on that first play. Manning had no shot at it without getting hurt, and it was going to be a safety anyway. Therefore he decided to give his team a shot by staying in the whole game instead of making the Broncos rely on inexperienced Brock Osweiler. That's not laying down, that's playing smart.

Lulz.
Re watch that play. Moreno wasn't "already there" and that EASILY could have been a TD.
Most QBS and kickers go apeshit trying to knock that thing out of bounds.
Maybe I'll give you protecting his neck but lol at the rest.

[spursup]

Lulz.
Re watch that play. Moreno wasn't "already there" and that EASILY could have been a TD.
Most QBS and kickers go apeshit trying to knock that thing out of bounds.
Maybe I'll give you protecting his neck but lol at the rest.

Moreno reacted quicker, Manning had a second of shock saying "Why was the ball snapped!? Moreno can also run about twice as fast as Manning, so he was getting there first no matter what. For Manning to have gone after that ball would have been more boneheaded than the snap itself.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Going for it on 4th and 2 bypassing an easy FG was a very wtf moment.
Not only do you tell your Defense you don't have faith , but you forego football psychology 101 by getting those first points up on the board.

That team wanted to go home. Even in a loss you could make a statement and battle back and make a point. These guys just mailed it in.

Horribly coached game.

Like you say, you have to kick the FG and get those first points. That's an old Bill Parcells principle. The longer it takes to get those first points, the harder it becomes.

Then on the first drive of the second half, down 29-0 or whatever it was, they PUNT from the Seattle 40. What?! It's the fucking SB, you're losing by 4+ scores, and you have barely two quarters left to get it. I'm pretty sure Peyton was expecting it to be four down territory, because he audibled to a draw play if i'm not mistaken on third down & long, and his body language was not good when the punt team came on the field.

36-0, Denver scores, he goes for two. Why? Going for two does nothing for you in terms of scores needed. And had they not made it, it kills the positive vibes you just got from finally scoring.

I didn't have a major problem with the bad challenge from the timeout perspective because first half timeouts are essentially useless, but anybody in the booth could have told him it was a waste of time.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Horribly coached game.

Like you say, you have to kick the FG and get those first points. That's an old Bill Parcells principle. The longer it takes to get those first points, the harder it becomes.

Then on the first drive of the second half, down 29-0 or whatever it was, they PUNT from the Seattle 40. What?! It's the fucking SB, you're losing by 4+ scores, and you have barely two quarters left to get it. I'm pretty sure Peyton was expecting it to be four down territory, because he audibled to a draw play if i'm not mistaken on third down & long, and his body language was not good when the punt team came on the field.

36-0, Denver scores, he goes for two. Why? Going for two does nothing for you in terms of scores needed. And had they not made it, it kills the positive vibes you just got from finally scoring.

I didn't have a major problem with the bad challenge from the timeout perspective because first half timeouts are essentially useless, but anybody in the booth could have told him it was a waste of time.

Both coaches used there challenges REALLY quick IMO I just chalked it up to nerves.
The rest that's been pointed out...mind numbing...terrible decisions.