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  • JMeist
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1651

    #31
    Originally posted by MrBill
    Rodgers is good, I don't think anybody disputes that. He did nothing, however, to help put the Packers over the hump to win a Superbowl while there was a core of players there to build upon. We had better enjoy him while we can because he will not last this season if he stays on track for 60 sacks.

    Thompson and McCarthy are through this year if the Packers don't make the playoffs and I don't think that is a shocking prediction.
    They're here for another year.. The switch to the 3-4 defense saves them 1 more year.

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    • The Buddha
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 2401

      #32
      I like how Bill says Rodgers did nothing to help the team last year, but fails to mention how many times the defense blew a 4th quarter lead late in the game last year....but my bad i forgot Favre could play D and not all that to happen.


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      • MrBill
        Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
        • Feb 2009
        • 0

        #33
        Originally posted by Kelly Goosecawk
        honestly if brett was so damn good why did we have 3 down years in a row and everyone was beginning to call for his head?
        Sherman was even more of a bozo as GM/coach than the duo of Thompson/McCarthy. All they had to do to look good was be better than Sherman....lol

        Originally posted by The Buddha
        I like how Bill says Rodgers did nothing to help the team last year, but fails to mention how many times the defense blew a 4th quarter lead late in the game last year....but my bad i forgot Favre could play D and not all that to happen.
        If you start throwing in defenses blowing games in Green Bay as an excuse for Rodgers, then you have to let Favre off of the hook for game ending INT's in the divisional round against the Eagles (4th and 26) and the NFC championship game against the Giants (Plax 11/160 and only the Giants kicker missing a few FG's in the 4th sent it to OT).

        Of course it is stupid to play that blame game and at the end of the day the only thing to judge a QB on is wins and losses. You know how that story plays out.

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        • Senser81
          VSN Poster of the Year
          • Feb 2009
          • 12804

          #34
          Originally posted by MrBill
          If you start throwing in defenses blowing games in Green Bay as an excuse for Rodgers, then you have to let Favre off of the hook for game ending INT's in the divisional round against the Eagles (4th and 26) and the NFC championship game against the Giants (Plax 11/160 and only the Giants kicker missing a few FG's in the 4th sent it to OT).
          ?????

          They have very little to do with one another. Also, in both those playoff games, the Packers only let the opposing team tie them, and the Packers still had chances to win the game. The INTs by Favre were horrendous no matter how you look at them. Especially the Eagles one, because the Packers run game was chewing up Philly's D. No need to heave one up for grabs.

          Did you see the Packers-Bucs game? Are you going to blame Rodgers for throwing the end-of-game INT? Just curious.

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          • MrBill
            Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
            • Feb 2009
            • 0

            #35
            Originally posted by Senser81
            ?????

            They have very little to do with one another. Also, in both those playoff games, the Packers only let the opposing team tie them, and the Packers still had chances to win the game. The INTs by Favre were horrendous no matter how you look at them. Especially the Eagles one, because the Packers run game was chewing up Philly's D. No need to heave one up for grabs.

            Did you see the Packers-Bucs game? Are you going to blame Rodgers for throwing the end-of-game INT? Just curious.
            The Packers run game was chewing up Philly in that playoff game. So why on 3rd and goal at the 1 did Sherman call a fancy delayed run and then settle for a FG when Green got stuffed at the line and then later in the game when it was 4th and a foot did he punt to the Eagles when a first down would have ran out the clock? Poor coaching from the Green Bay sideline has hurt both Favre and Rodgers over the years.

            And yes, I did watch the Packers-Bucs game and Rodgers had 3 picks (as many as Favre has all year) and I do blame him for the stupid throw at the end of the game. The Packers were only down by 3 and he could have gotten the team into FG range. It was 3rd and 17, no need to heave up a duck into tight coverage.

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            • Senser81
              VSN Poster of the Year
              • Feb 2009
              • 12804

              #36
              Originally posted by MrBill
              And yes, I did watch the Packers-Bucs game and Rodgers had 3 picks (as many as Favre has all year) and I do blame him for the stupid throw at the end of the game. The Packers were only down by 3 and he could have gotten the team into FG range. It was 3rd and 17, no need to heave up a duck into tight coverage.
              It was 4th and 12, the Packers were about 70 yards away from FG range, and there were about 30 seconds left.

              Once again, you never let the facts get in the way of a good "argument".

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              • MrBill
                Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                • Feb 2009
                • 0

                #37
                Originally posted by Senser81
                It was 4th and 12, the Packers were about 70 yards away from FG range, and there were about 30 seconds left.

                Once again, you never let the facts get in the way of a good "argument".
                Then you might need to tell Aaron Rodgers because I was reading his post game comments earlier this morning on the JS Packer Plus blog...

                The first one, I didn't see him. Tried to kind of put it in there against the wind. Felt good about the second ball. Unfortunately got a little deflection there. And then the third one is third and 17 or whatever....Third or fourth down, think it was desperation. Still felt good about the throw but may have been a little bit high.

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                • Senser81
                  VSN Poster of the Year
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 12804

                  #38
                  Originally posted by MrBill
                  Then you might need to tell Aaron Rodgers because I was reading his post game comments earlier this morning on the JS Packer Plus blog...
                  Thats nice. Still...you never let the facts get in the way of a good "argument".

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                  • jeffx
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 3853

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Killa Pand
                    It's Jason Whitlock he's a fucking idiot.
                    Nothing but a shock journalist.

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                    • Primetime
                      Thank You Prince
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17526

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Senser81
                      Did you see the Packers-Bucs game? Are you going to blame Rodgers for throwing the end-of-game INT? Just curious.
                      To be fair, there was 52 seconds left at the beginning of the play. He needed roughly 60 yards to get a good shot at a field goal. Rodgers had 6+ seconds to throw and missed a clearly open Donald Driver. It was a horrible pass and inexcusable, but it's what he has always done in those situations.

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                      • MrBill
                        Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 0

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Primetime232
                        To be fair, there was 52 seconds left at the beginning of the play. He needed roughly 60 yards to get a good shot at a field goal. Rodgers had 6+ seconds to throw and missed a clearly open Donald Driver. It was a horrible pass and inexcusable, but it's what he has always done in those situations.
                        Peter King's observations on Rodgers holding the ball too long from this mornings MMQB article...

                        I think Aaron Rodgers has a serious problem when it comes to taking sacks, and it cost the Packers dearly Sunday in Tampa. He's got 37 now. I'm not absolving a porous offensive line, but Mike McCarthy has to get it through Rodgers' head when the rush is closing in to throw it away. If I were McCarthy, I'd put on some tape of Peyton Manning today. Manning's Colts line is not a lot better than Green Bay's -- it really isn't; just watch -- and Manning's taken seven sacks. That's because Manning knows when to throw it away or go to his hot guy.

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                        • Senser81
                          VSN Poster of the Year
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 12804

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Primetime232
                          To be fair, there was 52 seconds left at the beginning of the play. He needed roughly 60 yards to get a good shot at a field goal. Rodgers had 6+ seconds to throw and missed a clearly open Donald Driver. It was a horrible pass and inexcusable, but it's what he has always done in those situations.
                          LOL at "to be fair". What are you talking about? Are you talking about a different play than the interception? Everything you said is not what happened on the INT. I'd also like to add that, at this point, the Packers had given up 31 points to the Bucs....twice their normal scoring output.

                          Remember when Rodgers threw that pass to Jennings against the Bears this year to win the game?

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                          • Spidey
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 923

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Senser81
                            Remember when Rodgers threw that pass to Jennings against the Bears this year to win the game?
                            Don't bother senser. I've already tried that fact.

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                            • bucky
                              #50? WTF?
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5408

                              #44
                              Originally posted by MrBill
                              And yes, I did watch the Packers-Bucs game and Rodgers had 3 picks (as many as Favre has all year) and I do blame him for the stupid throw at the end of the game. The Packers were only down by 3 and he could have gotten the team into FG range. It was 3rd and 17, no need to heave up a duck into tight coverage.
                              And yet you ignore and/or make excuses for the numerous times Brett did this (in playoff games).

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                              • Primetime
                                Thank You Prince
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17526

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Senser81
                                LOL at "to be fair". What are you talking about? Are you talking about a different play than the interception? Everything you said is not what happened on the INT. I'd also like to add that, at this point, the Packers had given up 31 points to the Bucs....twice their normal scoring output.

                                Remember when Rodgers threw that pass to Jennings against the Bears this year to win the game?
                                Might want to go watch his last interception again. 0:52 left in the game. He threw the ball with 0:46 left. He had Driver open on the side line and overthrew him. Please tell me what I said that has "nothing" to do with what actually happened.

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