Did Manning re-open the MVP discussion today?

[Mogriffjr]

So by his standards, you are saying that Manning had a pedestrian game?

i c wat u did thar

[citizenerased]

Was pulling the starters the main reason for the loss or did the Colts just come out flat? Peyton could have just as easily been sacked and coughed up the fumble for the TD by the #1 ranked Jets defense. It's not like the Colts were doing themselves any favors before pulling Manning and some of the other starters. Looking at the stat line, it is obvious that Manning was having his worst game of the year before being pulled halfway through the 3rd quarter.

Peter King may be an idiot in your opinion but he is an idiot with an MVP vote.

:banghead:

Colts with Manning - 15-10.

Colts without Manning - 0-14.

Capiche?

It's kind of pathetic your making up fantasy stuff to back up your arguement about a game you didn't watch. How about this - Manning could've stayed out there and thrown 6 touchdowns in the 4th quarter. It didn't happen, but it could've happened. Therefore, we should just act like it did.

[Tengo Juego]

If you're going to start throwing in names of guys part of a playoff push...

Aaron Rodgers

Then, this.

[MvP]

Seriously, if Rivers is in MVP discussion then Rodgers should be as well.

[Deviant]

So by his standards, you are saying that Manning had a pedestrian game?

Absolutely not. Stop twisting what I'm saying. The point was to say that Revis didn't shutdown Wayne.

I love how you continue to say how much of a pedestrian game Manning had when you didn't even watch the game. Throwing for 14/21 and nearly 200 with no turnovers (when your last snap of the game is at the 10 minute mark in the third quarter) is not pedestrian.

[MrBill]

Absolutely not. Stop twisting what I'm saying. The point was to say that Revis didn't shutdown Wayne.

I love how you continue to say how much of a pedestrian game Manning had when you didn't even watch the game. Throwing for 14/21 and nearly 200 with no turnovers (when your last snap of the game is at the 10 minute mark in the third quarter) is not pedestrian.

I'm not twisting what you are saying. You are saying that Manning was missing open receivers as a contributing factor to why Wayne was not shutdown, ergo a pedestrian performance on Manning's behalf as judged by myself, Peter King, other members of the national media and your own statements. Who cares if he didn't have any turnovers? He didn't have any TD passes either and was trailing a .500 team at home in the 3rd quarter.

I don't know where you are getting that I didn't watch the game, I watched most of the game but had flipped over to the RedZone channel when Manning got pulled and flipped back as soon as Painter gave up the TD on the fumble.

[Archer]

I'm not twisting what you are saying. You are saying that Manning was missing open receivers as a contributing factor to why Wayne was not shutdown, ergo a pedestrian performance on Manning's behalf as judged by myself, Peter King, other members of the national media and your own statements. Who cares if he didn't have any turnovers? He didn't have any TD passes either and was trailing a .500 team at home in the 3rd quarter.

I don't know where you are getting that I didn't watch the game, I watched most of the game but had flipped over to the RedZone channel when Manning got pulled and flipped back as soon as Painter gave up the TD on the fumble.

Most of your comments in this thread . You first acted like Manning had lost us the game by saying "if he gets praise when he wins , he should get the blame when they lose" almost like you didn't realize Painter and the backups lost the lead (which I doubt because you would have to have no internet to think that) then you said the Colts were up when Manning came out . And then when I disagreed you said it was 18-15 to the Jets when he came out which is impossible considering Painter gave up the fumble to make it 18-15 lol

[Bear Pand]

I don't know where you are getting that I didn't watch the game

Everything you've said points to you making claims off of reading boxscores/only watching highlights/or actually copy and pasting what some analyst said.

Why should anyone believe you watched the game when you said the Colts were up 18-15 (Didn't happen) then admitted you got that from reading a USA Today recap.

[Deviant]

I'm not twisting what you are saying. You are saying that Manning was missing open receivers as a contributing factor to why Wayne was not shutdown, ergo a pedestrian performance on Manning's behalf as judged by myself, Peter King, other members of the national media and your own statements. Who cares if he didn't have any turnovers? He didn't have any TD passes either and was trailing a .500 team at home in the 3rd quarter.

I listed two misses to one receiver in particular. I didn't say he was missing open receivers. He missed Reggie Wayne by a bit on an open route and just at least hit his hands in the endzone, but just a bit out of place. Dallas Clark dropped another pass that some say was overthrown a bit. That's it. Those plays are magnified because Peyton only played, and I honestly can't stress this enough, 60% of the game, if that. I can't think of the last time a completion percentage of 66% was ever called pedestrian since most of the MVP candidates are at that completion percentage for the entire season.

Second of all, and this will prove my point that I'll make about the bottom quote, the score was 15-10 in favor of the Colts after Peyton's last snap of the game. In fact, when the Jets scored on special teams, he immediately went down the field and drove them to TD drive. And so what if he didn't get a TD pass? He got them six on the board twice by putting them in position to score, which is more important.

I don't know where you are getting that I didn't watch the game, I watched most of the game but had flipped over to the RedZone channel when Manning got pulled and flipped back as soon as Painter gave up the TD on the fumble.

See my above comment. See Archer's comment. See Killa Pand's comment.

[MrBill]

I want you to close your eyes and envision Brett Favre trailing at home in the 3rd quarter to a .500 team. During his 2.5 quarters of play, he misses several open receivers and has no TD passes before completing a couple of passes to get the team in position for a rushing TD before getting pulled by the coach in favor of his backup. The Vikings go on to lose the game.

Now open your eyes and realize that it was Peyton Manning.

I have enjoyed busting you Manning nuthugger's balls when you can't even admit the guy had an off day. You guys are worse than Favre nuthugger's :laugh:

[Archer]

I want you to close your eyes and envision Brett Favre trailing at home in the 3rd quarter to a .500 team. During his 2.5 quarters of play, he misses several open receivers and has no TD passes before completing a couple of passes to get the team in position for a rushing TD before getting pulled by the coach in favor of his backup. The Vikings go on to lose the game.

Now open your eyes and realize that it was Peyton Manning.

I have enjoyed busting you Manning nuthugger's balls when you can't even admit the guy had an off day. You guys are worse than Favre nuthugger's :laugh:

You make it sound like they pulled him for bad form lol . We pulled him because we were scared of any injuries for the playoffs . Same thing will happen v the Bills

I enjoy you Favre nuthuggers too .... trying to find something , no matter how small , no matter how many things you have to make up (like saying he was down when he came out) just to try and possibly make it sound like Favre is the MVP

I'm done with this thread and should have been when I realized you didn't even watch most of the game

[Bear Pand]

I want you to close your eyes and envision Brett Favre trailing at home in the 3rd quarter to a .500 team. During his 2.5 quarters of play, he misses several open receivers and has no TD passes before completing a couple of passes to get the team in position for a rushing TD before getting pulled by the coach in favor of his backup. The Vikings go on to lose the game.

Now open your eyes and realize that it was Peyton Manning.

I have enjoyed busting you Manning nuthugger's balls when you can't even admit the guy had an off day. You guys are worse than Favre nuthugger's :laugh:

Well I guess we don't have to close our eyes to see Favre lose to sub .500 teams.

[Archer]

Well I guess we don't have to close our eyes to see Favre lose to sub .500 teams.

Are you trying to say Favre had a pedestrian day?

[MrBill]

Well I guess we don't have to close our eyes to see Favre lose to sub .500 teams.

At least his game wasn't pedestrian like Manning's at 26/40 for 321 yards, 2 TD's and 0 INTs with a 106.3 QB rating. Maybe if Favre played defense the Bears wouldn't have hung 36 points on them or if he was the RB he wouldn't fumble on a key first down that would have moved the chains in OT.

[citizenerased]

At least his game wasn't pedestrian like Manning's at 26/40 for 321 yards, 2 TD's and 0 INTs with a 106.3 QB rating. Maybe if Favre played defense the Bears wouldn't have hung 36 points on them or if he was the RB he wouldn't fumble on a key first down that would have moved the chains in OT.

Maybe if Manning played Defense the Jet's wouldn't have hung score 19 unanswered points on them or if he wasn't pulled the back up QB wouldn't fumble the ball for a defensive touchdown?

Bitch, stay off that blow.