Is Drew Brees now a potential Hall of Famer?

[Wildcard]

Also Dante Culpepper had an epic fucking season or two in his career. Too bad he doesn't have a Super Bowl. We all know Culpepper had that season everyone seems to forget about in 2004. If he had that MVP and a SB under his belt I guess we'd be able to call him a Hall of Famer too.

[FirstTimer]

You're contradicting yourself.

No I'm not.

I'm bringing up THE WHOLE RESUME. And the Resume says Warner didn't attend work for half of his career. While turning the ball over a ridiculous amount of times on the ground.

Your "whole resume" includes thus far Super Bowl MVP's NOT MATTERING yet QB fumbles mattering SO MUCH! Are you kidding me. Many times QB's fumblign the ball has less to do with them than it does with bad blocking. That's why when people talk about QB's, and the GOAT/HOF, they never mention their fumbling stats because no one cares. EVER. Interceptions are one thing but people, well smart people, understand fumbling stats for a QB are largely overrated and have too many variables to be taken seriously at all.

And you are saying it doesn't matter that he fumbles a whole shitload?

Yes.

It doesn't matter that he spent all that time sitting?

I never said that...hence why I wouldn't put him in on the first ballot.

[FirstTimer]

To say I'm wrong about the Warner not playing a lot of games thing is... well I can't think of the word.

Where did I say you were "wrong" about Warner not playing in a lot of games?

PLEASE show me that post.

Fucking idiot.

Now you're just rambling about nothing.

[steeljake]

so i guess nuk isnt awake from his beauty sleep yet...

[Wildcard]

No I'm not.



Your "whole resume" includes thus far Super Bowl MVP's NOT MATTERING yet QB fumbles mattering SO MUCH! Are you kidding me. Many times QB's fumblign the ball has less to do with them than it does with bad blocking. That's why when people talk about QB's, and the GOAT/HOF, they never mention their fumbling stats because no one cares. EVER. Interceptions are one thing but people, well smart people, understand fumbling stats for a QB are largely overrated and have too many variables to be taken seriously at all.


Yes.


I never said that...hence why I wouldn't put him in on the first ballot.

I really don't think Super Bowl MVP's matter what so ever. It's a Player of the Game award. You get your little face on the Madden Bus.

Now yeah, he has his 2 MVP's. He has his SB. :applause:


He still sat way too much to make the Hall of Fame. Especially for a Quarterback. The team leader. They are supposed to be on the field as much as possible. What type of legacy is held when you are sitting on the bench for half of your career?

What if Peyton Manning said, "you know what, for the rest of my career I'm gonna take every other week off."

[FirstTimer]

Also Dante Culpepper had an epic fucking season or two in his career. Too bad he doesn't have a Super Bowl. We all know Culpepper had that season everyone seems to forget about in 2004. If he had that MVP and a SB under his belt I guess we'd be able to call him a Hall of Famer too.

Culpepper had two good seasons. Warner had arguably a few of the best seasons by a QB in NFL history. Won a SB. Made it to two more. Won 2 MVP's, a SB MVP. Tack on 4-5 more good or great seasons and you have a HOF resume.

Culpepper had two good seasons, NO MVPS, no SB's.

So now your argument is that the only difference betwen Culpepper and Warner is their success? AWESOME!

[Wildcard]

Where did I say you were "wrong" about Warner not playing in a lot of games?

PLEASE show me that post.

Fucking idiot.

Now you're just rambling about nothing.

To me, you are implying that I'm wrong by saying what you said earlier about "yeah but in the other half of his career he did blah blah blah"

You're sticking up for the fact that he sat the bench so much.

By the way the personal attacks at my intelligence doesn't make you look cooler.

[FirstTimer]

I really don't think Super Bowl MVP's matter what so ever.

You're a complete moron then.

He still sat way too much to make the Hall of Fame. Especially for a Quarterback. The team leader. They are supposed to be on the field as much as possible. What type of legacy is held when you are sitting on the bench for half of your career?

I'd say a pretty damn good one seeing a with this "negative" he's still being mentioned as being in contention for the HOF and will more than likely make it.

What if Peyton Manning said, "you know what, for the rest of my career I'm gonna take every other week off."

LOL. Yeah because Warner was sitting out by choice.

STFU. You're fucking terrible.

[Wildcard]

You're a complete moron then.




I'd say a pretty damn good one seeing a with this "negative" he's still being mentioned as being in contention for the HOF and will more than likely make it.



LOL. Yeah because Warner was sitting out by choice.

STFU. You're fucking terrible.

That doesn't matter. The point was what if he misses every other game for the rest of his career?

[FirstTimer]

To me, you are implying that I'm wrong by saying what you said earlier about "yeah but in the other half of his career he did blah blah blah"

Then you have the cognitive ability of a flea.

You're sticking up for the fact that he sat the bench so much.

No. I'm pointing out the fact that when he wasn't sitting the bench he was consistantly, for 5-8 season one of the best QB's in the NFL and in history in both the regular season and playoffs.

By the way the personal attacks at my intelligence doesn't make you look cooler.

I'm not doing it to look "cooler". I'm doing it to point out the obvious.

[FirstTimer]

That doesn't matter.

Yes it does. You don't think Mannign choosing to walk off on his team for no reason would carry the same weight legacy wise as him shredding a knee or arm to the point where he was no longer capable of playing?

Are you seriously that dumb? Serious question.

The point was what if he misses every other game for the rest of his career?

In regards to Manning...
Then he is still a HOF'er and one of the top 5 QB's of all time.

[Wildcard]

Wrap up.

I think Warner shouldn't make the hall of fame due to a lack of playing time.
I think that the Super Bowl Player of the Game award is over rated.

You think Warner should make the Hall because he had an outstanding career when he actually played.
You are impossible to argue with due to stubbornness and arrogance. With such witty remarks as "moron" and "cognitive ability of a flea" it makes it damn near impossible to argue with your kind.

[FirstTimer]

Wrap up.

I wish your dad would have.

[Wildcard]

Yes it does. You don't think Mannign choosing to walk off on his team for no reason would carry the same weight legacy wise as him shredding a knee or arm to the point where he was no longer capable of playing?

Are you seriously that dumb? Serious question.



In regards to Manning...
Then he is still a HOF'er and one of the top 5 QB's of all time.

You're taking everything I say so literally. Of course Manning would make the Hall. I guess I was dumb to say Manning, but I couldn't really think of another QB that is really going to make it to the Hall other than Brady, but he has 3 SBs.

[Derrville]

Brees will be a HOF because he plays in New Orleans and New Orleans deserves it.