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  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    #31
    Originally posted by Atlas
    most conferences/schools dont allow their programs to do that... b/c its fucking wrong...
    As for grey-shirting, every school does that in this day and age in order to get under the 85 scholly limit. How do you think these signing classes have like 28-30 signees?

    As for giving a kid a scholarship for another sport, pretty sure there are strict guidelines preventing that.

    Grey-shirting and over-signing isn't ethical, but it's legal and a common practice among successful programs.

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    • Sportsbuck
      Buckeye For Life
      • Dec 2008
      • 3045

      #32
      Originally posted by BobSmuggins
      As for grey-shirting, every school does that in this day and age in order to get under the 85 scholly limit. How do you think these signing classes have like 28-30 signees?
      Because most of them don't qualify.

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      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
        Highwayman
        • Feb 2009
        • 15429

        #33
        Originally posted by Atlas
        i hate that shit... they shouldn't allow schools to do that or hand out track scholarships to football players... i guess ethics isn't taught at the U...
        LOL.

        It is done all throughout the country.

        Our football program didn't even recruit Latwan after January. He wanted to come to the U, he was told the only spot for him was on the track team as a freshman...he, being a track guy in HS, too, said sure...

        We did the same thing for Santana Moss.

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        • Atlas
          BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
          • Feb 2010
          • 7949

          #34
          Originally posted by BobSmuggins
          As for grey-shirting, every school does that in this day and age in order to get under the 85 scholly limit. How do you think these signing classes have like 28-30 signees?

          As for giving a kid a scholarship for another sport, pretty sure there are strict guidelines preventing that.

          Grey-shirting and over-signing isn't ethical, but it's legal and a common practice among successful programs.
          while i dislike grey-shirting, that is not what i was talking about... besides, some conferences do not allow you to sign more than 25 kids in a class (the SEC seems to be abuse this the most, as Auburn signed something like 35 kids in the spring)... but, offering track scholarships to football players is what im mad about... not everyone does it, some schools/programs will not allow it, and rightfully so, its a shady ass procedure
          Originally posted by Larry
          LOL.

          It is done all throughout the country.

          Our football program didn't even recruit Latwan after January. He wanted to come to the U, he was told the only spot for him was on the track team as a freshman...he, being a track guy in HS, too, said sure...

          We did the same thing for Santana Moss.
          its not done throughout the country and is still a shady fucking process... im mostly pissed b/c you fuckers stole him from us, but this is something the NCAA frowns upon, but has yet to outlaw, so more power to you... i wouldnt be surprised, however, if the NCAA did end up outlawing this in the near future...

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          • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
            Highwayman
            • Feb 2009
            • 15429

            #35
            Originally posted by Atlas
            while i dislike grey-shirting, that is not what i was talking about... besides, some conferences do not allow you to sign more than 25 kids in a class (the SEC seems to be abuse this the most, as Auburn signed something like 35 kids in the spring)... but, offering track scholarships to football players is what im mad about... not everyone does it, some schools/programs will not allow it, and rightfully so, its a shady ass procedure


            its not done throughout the country and is still a shady fucking process... im mostly pissed b/c you fuckers stole him from us, but this is something the NCAA frowns upon, but has yet to outlaw, so more power to you... i wouldnt be surprised, however, if the NCAA did end up outlawing this in the near future...
            How can they outlaw it, lol.

            Miami's compliance office made certain there was no contact with the football team and Latwan.

            Don't be butt hurt...you make no damn sense.

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            • Atlas
              BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 7949

              #36
              Originally posted by Larry
              How can they outlaw it, lol.

              Miami's compliance office made certain there was no contact with the football team and Latwan.

              Don't be butt hurt...you make no damn sense.
              read the NCAA handbook if it doesnt make sense...

              a football team is allowed 85 scholarship players at one given time... they are abusing a loophole to garner an 86th scholarship player, in essence... hell WVU did it when I was there, but Pastilong outlawed it in 2004 b/c he found it to be morally wrong... LA is going down to Coral Gables as a football player first, and they were lucky to have this loophole available to them to be able to offer him a spot... the NCAA can outlaw it if some teams keep abusing it and they deem it to be unfair... i know for a fact they have been close to stopping teams from doing this, but for some reason, havent gone through with it yet...

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              • NAHSTE
                Probably owns the site
                • Feb 2009
                • 22233

                #37
                LSU has kept kids on a baseball scholarship before while they wait for a football scholly...I don't see the issue with it, if a kid is willing to wait for a full scholarship while paying out of pocket (track, baseball, etc. give partial 'ships) then that is his choice. What is the NCAA going to do? If a kid is a legit member of the track or baseball team, he should be entitled to a scholly in that sport if none are available in football.

                And sportsbuck, not every kid who is oversigned is a non-qualifier. Schools like Bama, Florida, Auburn, LSU, etc. force kids to grey-shirt all the time for non-academic reasons.
                Last edited by NAHSTE; 07-09-2010, 01:15 PM.

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                • Atlas
                  BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7949

                  #38
                  Originally posted by BobSmuggins
                  LSU has kept kids on a baseball scholarship before while they wait for a football scholly...I don't see the issue with it, if a kid is willing to wait for a full scholarship while paying out of pocket (track, baseball, etc. give partial 'ships) then that is his choice. What is the NCAA going to do? If a kid is a legit member of the track or baseball team, he should be entitled to a scholly in that sport if none are available in football.
                  im fine with them getting partials and playing football, but giving this kid a full ride for football via a track scholly hurts the other kids on the track team and is also shady...

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                  • JeremyHight
                    I wish I was Scrubs
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4063

                    #39
                    Big surprise, he is going to the Canes.

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