If Auburn Sits Cam Newton, WTF?

[Prodigal Son]

It'd be stupid to sit the kid now. Your season is over if he's ruled ineligible at any point. So might as well just go all out at this point.

[trojan49er]

if auburn gets hit with anything less than what USC got, the ncaa is full of shit...or even more full of shit, i guess

[EmpireWF]

You guys expecting the NCAA to complete it's investigation in a matter of weeks and hand out infractions before bowl season?

Didn't it take them at least a year or two to do the Bush/USC investigation?

Nothing will happen to Auburn this year or the QB unless there is a stack of clear evidence that the kid ever got paid by a school.

[FirstTimer]

Exactly. Cam is an adult, he should have a grip on what people close to him are doing in talks with potential schools. If his dad was requesting money, Cam is just as guilty as if he himself did it.

I hope this is sarcasm. If not... your logic is fucking retarded.

[Bear Pand]

This whole thing is stupid. None of this would even be an issue if Auburn was sitting at 6 wins right now. Why sit Cam for taking money when Georgia has players who are also being paid? Yeah I have no evidence of this but it's naive to believe otherwise. Does Newton getting paid make him any less of a student athlete? IMO no because I don't believe he was ever a student to begin with.

NCAA is a joke. If they truly wanted to stop things like this they'd target people like boosters, shady agents and the actual schools.

[NAHSTE]

This whole thing is stupid. None of this would even be an issue if Auburn was sitting at 6 wins right now. Why sit Cam for taking money when Georgia has players who are also being paid? Yeah I have no evidence of this but it's naive to believe otherwise. Does Newton getting paid make him any less of a student athlete? IMO no because I don't believe he was ever a student to begin with.

NCAA is a joke. If they truly wanted to stop things like this they'd target people like boosters, shady agents and the actual schools.

Fuck that noise, doesn't excuse a thing. Just because everybody else does it (and I seriously doubt it happens to the extent some would believe) does not mean the NCAA should let it slide when it has evidence of wrongdoing.

Auburn should sit Cam because if not, they'll risk going on probation for knowingly playing an ineligible player. Chances are, this isn't the first time they've heard of Newton's desires to get paid.

I'm a firm believer that the D1 football and basketball players should get paid the same as student workers, but shopping your commitment for 200 grand is inexcusable no matter how broken the system.

[Bear Pand]

Whatever, main reason you're interested is because an ineligible Netwon basically takes away LSU's only loss of the season. Or at the very least if Cam has to sit it drastically increases LSU's shot at making the SEC CG.

Whole system is shady. Maybe it doesn't happen to the extent everyone believes but I guarantee all those SEC schools are doing dirt behind the scenes. My beef is NCAA penalizing Newton isn't going to improve the sport, it isn't going the change things. It doesn't get to the heart of the problem.

[JeremyHight]

While I am not able to say that Newton is the only collegiate athlete to take money, there are very, very few who are basically selling themselves for hundreds of thousands of dollars to the highest bidder. I do not think that student athletes taking money is rare, but the price tag attached to Cam Newton is utterly ridiculous.

[EmpireWF]

I hope this is sarcasm. If not... your logic is fucking retarded.

How so?

Cam can't plead ignorance here if his dad (or anyone on his behalf) was requesting a payday.

How hard is that to understand?

[NAHSTE]

Yeah seriously... anyone who thinks Cecil was requesting money and Cam knew nothing about it is F'in retarded!!!!!!!

Auburn is so fucked right now.. what's really going to suck is if they win the BCS Title and 2/3 years down the road it gets vacated!!!!! Would be another waste of a season....

Knowing Auburn, they'd still hand out fake national championship rings like they have in 1993 and 2004.

Sidenote- They are drilling Georgia right now. Running wild. Averaging like 12 yards per carry. Georgia fucking sucks.

[FirstTimer]

How so?

Cam can't plead ignorance here if his dad (or anyone on his behalf) was requesting a payday.

How hard is that to understand?

...........Because Cam's dad is an adult and it's entirely possible that his dad was requesting this or doing this without Cam's blessing.

How hard is THAT to understand?

Your argument that Cam is an adult therefore he should be responsible for the acts of his father even if he didn't know about the actions of his father is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on VSN....and that's saying quite a bit.

[Bear Pand]

Yeah it's especially stupid when you realize that there are documented cases of people giving money to a third party, in order to get closer to a player. For instance, an agent giving a scrub player money in hopes that he can eventually form a relationship with scrub player's best friend who happens to be a future 1st rounder. No one would hold the 1st rounder responsible for that.

What impresses me more than anything though, is that Cam's father has been around the block before as this was the second time his son had been recruited. So if all of the allegations are true I think it's says a lot about the recruiting process that he was bold enough to ask for $. Either he knew there was a good chance he'd get it or he's just a moron.

[EmpireWF]

...........Because Cam's dad is an adult and it's entirely possible that his dad was requesting this or doing this without Cam's blessing.

How hard is THAT to understand?

Your argument that Cam is an adult therefore he should be responsible for the acts of his father even if he didn't know about the actions of his father is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on VSN....and that's saying quite a bit.

Are you thick?

Cam Newton must have complete control of his recruitment process, no? After all, he is an adult.

Well, apparently he did not. Being that he went to Auburn because his father made the decision, I'd venture to say papa Newton was acting on baby Newton's behalf.

So go dumb up another thread.

[EmpireWF]

You're an idiot.

Cecil could have been pulling strings without Cam Newton's knowledge. It's obvious he wanted to go to Miss St, but didn't because Cecil didn't agree. Whether he KNEW about the money is a different story.

I feel bad for Cam - his father took advantage of him and it's ruining not only his collegiate career and awards he could receive, but also his future.

Right, father and son are so close that his father influences where he goes and yet the son knows absolutely nothing about what happened to recruit him?

Bullshit.

[EmpireWF]

That is the point of the question. If Newton denies he has any knowledge of his father doing this, then what?

That would need many leaps of faith.

Is it possible that through the entire recruitment process, Cam Newton did little through it all? That his father handled every aspect and through his own greed, requested paydays and whatnot? Meanwhile, Cam just sat back and said "yes dad, whatever you want" and when his dad said to sign for Auburn, he did just that?

I don't know...

Even if that case were true, if Auburn ever made a single payment to secure the signing of Newton...then drop the bomb on them baby cause they dun goofed.

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