Yay or Nay for Rooney Rule?

[Champ]

Are you for it or against it?

There are some pros like giving minorities a chance at a job opportunity.

Im against it. How does the Rooney Rule not have a guy like Fewell going into interviews wondering if he is a serious contender or just the token interview? It is a disgrace.




And for the retards like PB

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule

[NAHSTE]

I'm gonna vote yes, but first I need to sit down and talk with no and see if that would be the better option.

[mgoblue2290]

Its a waste of time for teams who already know who their coach will be. NFL teams are going to hire the best possible candidate, regardless of race. I seriously doubt its helped any coaches get a job they didn't already have based on their abilities.

[Champ]

Per Wikipedia

In 2003, the NFL fined the Detroit Lions $200,000 for failure to interview minority candidates for the team's vacant head coaching job. After Marty Mornhinweg was fired, the Lions immediately hired former San Francisco 49ers head coach Steve Mariucci to replace him without interviewing any other candidates. The Lions claimed they attempted to interview other candidates but that the minority candidates withdrew from interviews, believing Mariucci's hiring was inevitable.

Do you guys think the Lions did something wrong?

[mgoblue2290]

Per Wikipedia


Do you guys think the Lions did something wrong?

We've been doing it wrong since 1957.

[Leftwich]

Per Wikipedia


Do you guys think the Lions did something wrong?

Yeah... not even mooch could have saved that franchise.

[JayDizzle]

As long as they're truthfully interviewing and not just going through the motions, I'm okay with the Rooney Rule.

[ryne candy]

I'm for it because if a guy goes in acting like he doesn't care (thinking someone else gots the job), that isn't the teams fault. Word gets around and if the person takes it serious, he may get a shot to another job. It also helps that person get more experience in what kind of questions will be asked.....toning his interviewing skills.

[Senser81]

Yay. Any Dennis Green reference is good.

[BigHouseUSA]

Per Wikipedia


Do you guys think the Lions did something wrong?

Hiring Mariucci

Yeah... not even mooch could have saved that franchise.

That's because he did everything wrong. Wrong fit, wrong time.

[jeffx]

I'm torn on this - it does smack of tokenism, but how are these no-name guys going to get noticed?

Like ryne said, if the guy has a good interview, he might get referenced for another job. I don't know...

[Fox1994]

I'm for it. It's been said by someone here that Tomlin got his job because of the Rooney rule. And it's not like they have to hire a minority coach, they just have to interview one.

[Tengo Juego]

I'm a retard.

[adembroski]

I was against the Rooney Rule from the start. It's blatant racism in and of itself.

It also encourages teams to interview people who otherwise wouldn't get an interview. This, contrary to popular belief, is not a good thing. I'm almost certain Singletary was named interim because by doing so, the team essentially bypassed the Rooney rule (by calling the interimship an extended interview) and would be allowed to hire Martz as the head coach... unfortunately, the team starting winning, and the fans like Singletary, so the Yorks were kind of forced to go with him... far from being ready.

So it works the same way as California's race-based quotas in public universities. The kid from a shitty high school in Compton is not prepared to handle classes at Stanford, but gets the spot because he's black. He fails out. If he'd gone to some community college in Los Angeles, he'd have gotten a degree... and while it wouldn't have been as impressive a degree as the one at Stanford, he's a hell of a lot better of than if he'd failed.

Affirmative Action drove up black admission rates at major universities, didn't effect overall black admission rates at all, and drove up black dropout and failure rates in California. When they repealed it, all of these went back to normal.

Anytime you create rules that give a race advantages, you will invoke the law of unintended consequences.

All that said, there have been positive changes due to the Rooney Rule. However, those changes have taken root. It's time to get rid of it.

[MrBill]

I believe for now it serves a purpose but one day in the not so distant future it should no longer be needed.