NFL's Top 100 Discussion

[Blick]

Nice stats, if the argument was "Is Josh Freeman a top 100 young QB in the NFL".

Freeman was tied for 10th overall in NY/A, behind such stalwarts as Jon Kitna, Matt Schaub, and everyones favorite whipping boy, Eli Manning.

In straight Yards per Attempt, Freeman is nowhere to be found, yet again, Kitna, Schaub, Eli, and DAVID GARRARD cracked the top 10.

Top 100 player, right there.

I personally love how you think Mike Williams warrants top 100 consideration, but Freeman doesn't.

Williams, the guy who was tied for 34th in receptions and tied for 19th in yards in his only pro season.

Yeah, top 100 player there.

[FirstTimer]

So, Sanchez got chosen because a bunch of high school and college kids would rather go work out in LA than Manhattan, KS.

Plus, Freeman is black.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I personally love how you think Mike Williams warrants top 100 consideration, but Freeman doesn't.

Williams, the guy who was tied for 34th in receptions and tied for 19th in yards in his only pro season.

Yeah, top 100 player there.

Do you think Williams had anything to do with Freeman's statistical imrovements?

Perhaps a Michael Clayton/Sammy Stroughter 2009 highlight film is in order.

[Blick]

Plus, Freeman is black.

Super talent. Poor work ethic. Next JaFatass Russell.

[Blick]

Do you think Williams had anything to do with Freeman's statistical imrovements?

Perhaps a Michael Clayton/Sammy Stroughter 2009 highlight film is in order.

Of course.

[Warner2BruceTD]

And I love how Freeman gets all of the credit for the Bucs sudden improvement, when two additions to the offense (Williams & Blount) were arguably the most impactful. They weren't there in '09, but Freeman was. Where was this Freeman magic wand two years ago?

Its like saying, Isaac Bruce spearheaded the greatest show on turf, ignoring that they added Faulk, Warner, and Holt.

[Senser81]

And I love how Freeman gets all of the credit for the Bucs sudden improvement, when two additions to the offense (Williams & Blount) were arguably the most impactful. They weren't there in '09, but Freeman was. Where was this Freeman magic wand two years ago?

In BigBucs' ass...obviously.

[Blick]

And I love how Freeman gets all of the credit for the Bucs sudden improvement, when two additions to the offense (Williams & Blount) were arguably the most impactful. They weren't there in '09, but Freeman was. Where was this Freeman magic wand two years ago?

Nobody is saying Freeman gets all the credit, but you're kidding yourself if you think the leap Freeman made as a player from year 1 to year 2 didn't have the most impact.

[Senser81]

Nobody is saying Freeman gets all the credit, but you're kidding yourself if you think the leap Freeman made as a player from year 1 to year 2 didn't have the most impact.

Same is true of Matt Cassel. KC doesn't make the playoffs if Cassel doesn't throw 27 TDs vs. 7 INTs and have a rating in the mid-90's. Oh wait...:orton:

[Blick]

Same is true of Matt Cassel. KC doesn't make the playoffs if Cassel doesn't throw 27 TDs vs. 7 INTs and have a rating in the mid-90's. Oh wait...:orton:

Dwayne Bowe and Jamaal Charles are the most important players on that offense.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Dwayne Bowe and Jamaal Charles are the most important players on that offense.

The irony here is astounding.

[Sven Draconian]

Nobody is saying Freeman gets all the credit, but you're kidding yourself if you think the leap Freeman made as a player from year 1 to year 2 didn't have the most impact.

That's actually exactly what was being said.
Paraphrasing:
"Freeman led the Bucs to 10 wins with no supporting cast" which makes him a top 100 player.

[Senser81]

Dwayne Bowe and Jamaal Charles are the most important players on that offense.

COME AT ME, BRO!

[Blick]

That's actually exactly what was being said.
Paraphrasing:
"Freeman led the Bucs to 10 wins with no supporting cast" which makes him a top 100 player.

There's more to it than that.

[Sven Draconian]

And QB being a tougher position to play is irrelevant.

Being a medicore QB does not make you better than a Great LB because you play QB. It makes you more highly paid, it means you probably got drafted higher and it means you don't get hit in practice. But it's irrelevant to your actual skill set.

The list isn't
"Top 100 most valuable players"
"Top 100 young players"
"Top 100 most popular players" (Ok, it actually is..."

It's the "Top 100 players in the NFL."

Which means that only elite players at their position should make it. (Again, 22 positions = top 4 per position (roughly, actual distribution should change slightly) plus a couple of kick returners and maybe a kicker (hey, if you want to make the value arguement, how do you NOT include kickers?)

OBVIOUSLY talent is somewhat equally distributed between the positions.Teams aren't sitting fantastic LT's on the bench because they don't play RT or guard. There is some natural flux in talent per position (QB is up a little right now, RB is down for example).

Since QB is in an "upswing" I could buy that there should be maybe 6 or so on the list (Rogers, Rivers, Brady, Big Ben, Peyton, Brees). I coud even see an arguement for Matty Ryan clinging to the 98/99/100 spot as the 7th best QB in the league.

Flacco? Sanchez? Freeman? GTFO.
And LMFAO at Donovan McNabb.