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  • Raidersabc123
    Wakka Wakka
    • Dec 2008
    • 5061

    #91
    Originally posted by §hayn•Da•Pain
    We could talk about anybody you want to talk about. Name somebody and lets discuss.
    About time
    THe MaDDeN GoD

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    • BigBucs
      Unpretentious
      • May 2009
      • 12758

      #92
      Originally posted by Raidersabc123
      Can we just stop talking about Freeman
      Thank the haters. Cant blame me this time.

      Originally posted by §hayn•Da•Pain
      It was a statement only made to point out the obvious gigantic holes in his so called irrefutable evidence. His statement is basically that Freeman can't be on the top 100 list because 95%(bullshit) of the probowl roster is better than he is because Freeman didn't make the probowl. Which is complete horseshit because the probowl roster can only have 3 QBs, and Freeman had plenty of support for the probowl. And he must really suck at math because 95% of 39 = 37 players, and you can have another 37 from the AFC roster as well and that still leaves you with 12 players that didn't make the pro-bowl before Freeman. So if Freeman were close to making the probowl already, it wouldn't be a stretch to say he's 86th.
      I know, you know and Im sure he knows but Senser is one of the biggest trolls on the site.




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      • Blick
        The Judge
        • Mar 2009
        • 1557

        #93
        Warner said he could name 100 players he would rather have on his team than Freeman. It is idiotic to take that many players over a potential franchise QB in a league that shows you over and over how valuable it is to have a first round, blue chip talent at the most important position on the team.

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        • BigBucs
          Unpretentious
          • May 2009
          • 12758

          #94
          Originally posted by Blick
          Warner said he could name 100 players he would rather have on his team than Freeman. It is idiotic to take that many players over a potential franchise QB in a league that shows you over and over how valuable it is to have a first round, blue chip talent at the most important position on the team.
          Ask him to name 100 players he would rather have on his team over Bradford.




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          • ram29jackson
            Noob
            • Nov 2008
            • 0

            #95
            The list is pointless, you can change the bottom 60 to people who arent even on the list. Its just momentary arguments made for whomever comes to mind

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            • BigBucs
              Unpretentious
              • May 2009
              • 12758

              #96
              Originally posted by ram29jackson
              The list is pointless, you can change the bottom 60 to people who arent even on the list. Its just momentary arguments made for whomever comes to mind
              Thanks for the info.




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              • Blick
                The Judge
                • Mar 2009
                • 1557

                #97
                Originally posted by Primetime232
                It's a Josh Freeman highlight video. It's not like they'll show his bad points.
                Alright Jon Gruden, give us your breakdown.

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                • Blick
                  The Judge
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1557

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  I'm not going to get into semantics and debate the merits of a G or ILB or FS vs. a QB.
                  Because you know that QB's are more valuable than any other position and it would make your claim look even more ridiculous.

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                  • Shayn•Da•Pain
                    Laughs Unlimited
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5204

                    #99
                    Originally posted by FreemanTheGod
                    Thank the haters. Cant blame me this time.



                    I know, you know and Im sure he knows but Senser is one of the biggest trolls on the site.
                    Oh I know, and I know you know now, and knowing is half the battle.
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                    • Primetime
                      Thank You Prince
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17526

                      Originally posted by Blick
                      Alright Jon Gruden, give us your breakdown.
                      Gruden's not a good example. He loves everyone. He'd tell you Charlie Sheen has all the tools to be a successful NFL QB if you gave him the time of day.

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                      • Shayn•Da•Pain
                        Laughs Unlimited
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5204

                        Originally posted by Raidersabc123
                        About time
                        Let's talk about Mike Williams at #83. Boy, he sure can catch a good Josh Freeman pass can't he? :smug2:
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                        • Sven Draconian
                          Not a Scandanavian
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1319

                          Originally posted by Blick
                          Warner said he could name 100 players he would rather have on his team than Freeman. It is idiotic to take that many players over a potential franchise QB in a league that shows you over and over how valuable it is to have a first round, blue chip talent at the most important position on the team.
                          ...which does not make a QB a better player.

                          Value =/= skill.

                          This is the basic issue with any of these lifts. There are 5 offensive lineman starting for every team, every weeek. There is 1 QB. Any logical, rational list should have damn near that same 5:1 ratio for lineman to QBs.

                          Looked at from a different perspective, as there are 22 starters you would expect each position to have around 4 representatives, with a few left over spots.

                          So, is Freeman a top 5 (I'll even give it 6) QB?
                          In no particular order:
                          Rodgers
                          Brees
                          Brady
                          Peyton
                          Rivers
                          Ryan
                          Rothlesburger
                          Vick???

                          He hasn't done anything to seperate himeslf from the Sanchez or Flacco. It's tough to even put him over a guy like Eli. Just off stats, he's right with Schaub and Orton.

                          Freeman is somewhere on the fringe of the top 10. Putting him right on par with a top 20 CB, top 30 LB, top 20 DE, top 30 WR, top 10 RB, top 10 center ect ect.

                          Putting him rihgt on the fringe of the top 200 players. Since the AFC>NFC, I think it's pretty fair to say that he is on the outside looking in on the top 100 NFC players.

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                          • Champ
                            Needs a hobby
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 14424

                            Eli is top 10 ^^


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                            • Primetime
                              Thank You Prince
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17526

                              Eli is the 3rd best QB in his division.

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                              • Champ
                                Needs a hobby
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 14424

                                Originally posted by Primetime232
                                Eli is the 3rd best QB in his division.
                                Haha.


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