Feds to NCAA: Why no playoffs?

[s@ppisgod]

And look at what Bama did to the only other team to beat Wisconsin really don't think TCU compares to the elite of the elite teams even in off years.

Thats just it. You might not think it, but we won't know until they play. And since there's no way in hell that a Bama or LSU schedules Boise or TCU, then why not let them settle it on the field one of these years? You can't honestly tell me that the Big Ten is loaded most years or half the Pac 10 is worth a damn or that 3/4ths of the teams in the Big XII know what a defense is. I think if you switched TCU and OSU or Oregon, they'd likely still be a top 5 undefeated team at the end of the year, only they'd be "legitimate" because they'd be associated with more well-known conferences. Which just speaks to how flawed the system is.
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[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I don't mind a very short playoff format. How many more football games are we gonna require STUDENT athletes to play? If a playoff format creates maybe one extra game a year (two playoff levels) for students then I'm for it.

JUST KEEP THE COURTS AND FED GOVT. OUT OF SPORTS.

Why would anybody be butt hurt about some judicial insight into college sports? It's the judicial systems responsibility to ensure no fraudulent activity takes place in society. Wouldn't you agree that the BCS has unfairly prevented some smaller programs from competing for a national championship? And therefore prevented said program from collected national championship bowl money and/or recruitment leverage? Let the courts do their jobs, they wouldn't be there if it wasn't within their power to do so.

[Sven Draconian]

Are people really not sure why this is an issue?

We are talking about a billion dollar industry with innumerable investors and affiliates, thousands of employees and that receives public funding. Is college football important in the grand scheme of things? No, of course not. Is the billions of dollars exchanging hands? Absolutely.

It's a corrupt system. It doesn't matter if it is wall street or college football, we are talking about shady dealings with significant money.

That MUST be investigated and prosecuted. That is why anti-trust laws exist. I love how the BCS president is hiding behind the "Don't they have anything better to do" arguement. Deflect the arguement. No, they don't have anything better to do than to hammer a corrupt, billion dollar industry. That IS what our taxmoney should be working on.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I have no problem with the feds butting in. To be honest, I care more about getting a football playoff than I do about half of the other shit they waste their time on.

[s@ppisgod]

I don't mind a very short playoff format. How many more football games are we gonna require STUDENT athletes to play? If a playoff format creates maybe one extra game a year (two playoff levels) for students then I'm for it.

JUST KEEP THE COURTS AND FED GOVT. OUT OF SPORTS.

Thats the only problem I have with a playoff, everyone wants something different. A plus 1 is fine with me. 8 teams max. Then you have idiots who want 16, 24, 32, or even 64(!) teams, none of which make a damn bit of sense and are only suggested to follow the NFL or March Madness.
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[Shayn•Da•Pain]

And look at what Bama did to the only other team to beat Wisconsin really don't think TCU compares to the elite of the elite teams even in off years.

Most top ranked players go to schools they think have a chance to win a BCS Championship. When the NCAA allows the Boise States of the world to compete fairly in the National Championship you will see more top ranked players committing to these so called smaller schools, and I'd venture to say there will be a naturally developed playing field over time. As is, players commit to programs like Bama because they have a tradition and/or reputation for being a top ranked highly competitive program. But what would happen if Bama got rolled up by TCU in a playoff format? TCU would become the Gonzaga of NCAA Football and they would get more talent year after year. As is the smaller programs are getting screwed over as the bigger programs have a competitive advantage being that they can offer a recruit the chance to compete for a major bowl and/or the Nat. Championship, where smaller schools can't guarantee that. The BCS is outright fraudulent.

[bucky]

Why would anybody be butt hurt about some judicial insight into college sports?

All the Fed Govt can do is screw sports up if they get involved. Keep them out of Sports. Keep the courts and Govt. out of the NFL. If the courts weren't an option, the NFLPA and NFL would still be negotiating.

[St. Francisco]

All the Fed Govt can do is screw sports up if they get involved. Keep them out of Sports. Keep the courts and Govt. out of the NFL. If the courts weren't an option, the NFLPA and NFL would still be negotiating.

That ranks in the top ten stupidest things I've ever heard.

You're blaming the courts for the NFL lockout? Ummm...how about the owners who purposefully designed TV deals to give them money in a lockout situation, then came to the bargaining table to ask for an extra billion dollars off the top because of increased costs, but refuse to validate that statement by opening their books?

They wouldn't be negotiating. The NFL would have locked out the players, and just waited them out if the courts weren't involved. The government is designed to ensure fairness and balance. Some don't see football as a worthy use of our time, but these are multi-billion dollar businesses...they are most certainly worthy of our time.

This is a stupid argument all around. College football's system to decide a national championship is considered broken by an overwhelming majority of people, and those of you who can't see that are quite simply mentally deficient. I love a good debate...but there is no debate here. You have no leg to stand on.

[bucky]

This is a stupid argument all around. College football's system to decide a national championship is considered broken by an overwhelming majority of people, and those of you who can't see that are quite simply mentally deficient. I love a good debate...but there is no debate here. You have no leg to stand on.

The NFL, there is a good debate and a leg to stand on. Look at the Packers profits over the past few years. Hell, just look at the difference between this past year and the year before that. If we leave things up to the players and courts, they'll turn the NFL into Major League Baseball.

It was written into the CBA that the owners were allowed to discontinue it. The NFLPA decertificated and went to the courts instead of negotiating.

Keep the Fed Govt out of sports. They have much better things to do.

[Prodigal Son]

Everyone defending the BCS. How would you feel if the same system was brought into college basketball?

[FirstTimer]

So now lets penalize teams for playing anyone that has some talent. Boise schedules 8-10 cupcakes a year and if they run undefeated they should be able to play with 0-1 loss teams from conferences that actually play football games? Sorry but a schedule like this. If they want to play with the big boys at the end of the year they should be playing some big boys throughout the year. I get tired of every summer hearing how someone won't play Boise, usually the schedules for the elite teams are set by the time boise runs around asking. I mean its not like these teams won't go out of conference. Tennessee played Oregon, Bama played Penn State...Miami and Ohio State played. Maybe they need to leave the Wyomings, UC-Davis and Tennessee Tech's of the world off and schedule another quality opponent if they won't attempt to join a conference that has a tough schedule.



As I said above. At the end of the year if they want to play with the big boys they need to play with the big boys as much as possible. TCU made a necessary jump into a BCS conference. Boise just joined a bigger conference of crap. So really I don't anticipate hearing anything out of TCU in the way of complaining, granted they haven't been real scared playing some pretty decent out of conference competition but I don't care if Boise is the best team ever assembled, until they prove it against solid competition week in and week out, I don't want to see them in January at all.

You do realize the bigger teams have been refusing to schedule Boise for years....when teams like Va Tach/Oregon do decide to play them...Boise still wins.

[BigHouseUSA]

Jeremy Hight to feds: Fuck you

[Guest]

Everyone always compares the small schools to the dick-sucking fest that the SEC has become. How about the OSU years when they were contenders to go to the NC? Michigan hasn't been Michigan in a while, Wisconsin and Iowa just upped their game recently, Penn St is the same every year, Illinois and Michigan St is always underachieving, NW, Minnesota, and Purdue are never noteworthy, Indiana just sucks. Are these conferences really a ton worse than the Big Ten was some years? I'm pretty sure the TCU, BSU, and Utah teams could have ran the table against those teams some years too. Especially when TCU just beat Wisconsin when they were running Big Ten teams off the field every week.
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i don't think that tcu is going to be very good now that dalton is gone. they should go back to being a more average team.

tcu did beat wisconsin, but it was a 1 off situation, not to mention an extremely close game. it could have gone either way, especially if the 2 pt conversion wasn't batted down

[Bear Pand]

I have no problem with the feds butting in. To be honest, I care more about getting a football playoff than I do about half of the other shit they waste their time on.

At least you're being honest though.

Unlike other people who'll try to rationalize the government getting involved just because getting a playoff happens to be something they want. Spending money on going after the BCS is a waste, our lives won't improve if college football implements a playoff system. That money could be better used elsewhere.

If you're one of the people who's line of thinking basically amounts to: "I hate the BCS, want to see a playoff system and don't care how it has to happen, who has to do it or what angle they have to push." Then just be honest about it. Miss me with all this fake caring about an antitrust nonsense.

Everyone defending the BCS. How would you feel if the same system was brought into college basketball?

Uhh how would you feel if college basketball's system was brought into college football. What's your point?

[Prodigal Son]

Uhh how would you feel if college basketball's system was brought into college football. What's your point?

I'd love a playoff for college football.

My point is NCAA basketball would be a joke if they let a computer decide the championship teams. March Madness is arguably the biggest collegiate sporting event in the world.

To declare a champ on the basis of how a team did against 10% of the teams in contention is a joke.

Top 8 BCS teams. 1-8 format. Lowest seed must face the highest seed in every following round.