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  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
    Highwayman
    • Feb 2009
    • 15429

    #16
    Originally posted by SHOGUN
    It was stupid to cut Garrard and even dumber to really expect anything out of McCown as a starter.
    Not stupid to cut Garrard...you're never better than mediocre with him, so, might as well just let the guy go and see what you got with Gabbert.

    The plan was to start him at some point this year, but probably after the bye. Since McCown sucks so bad, they bring in the kid to see what they got early.

    No worries.

    This confirms JDR is without a job next year and they can determine if Gabbert's got it, or not, or give the staff next year ample film to see if they like what he does.

    Oh, and better draft pick...this team needs an infusion of higher end talent. There are some "good" role players on the team, but no studs. Need MOAR studs.

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    • corbin
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1963

      #17
      Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
      Not stupid to cut Garrard...you're never better than mediocre with him, so, might as well just let the guy go and see what you got with Gabbert.

      The plan was to start him at some point this year, but probably after the bye. Since McCown sucks so bad, they bring in the kid to see what they got early.

      No worries.

      This confirms JDR is without a job next year and they can determine if Gabbert's got it, or not, or give the staff next year ample film to see if they like what he does.

      Oh, and better draft pick...this team needs an infusion of higher end talent. There are some "good" role players on the team, but no studs. Need MOAR studs.
      Not saying Garrard is a championship QB but he's a guy that won't turn it over and keep you in games. Mediocre may be enough to get into the playoffs this season. This franchise needs to get back to winning games and see the playoffs again. With David Garrard at the helm, I fully believe the Jags would be right there with the Texans at the end. Without him- they're a 6 win team, not selling tickets, and telling the team they threw in the towel before the season even started.

      Now you're moving to Gabbert already, looks extremely raw, and most likely going to take his lumps way too early. Oh well, maybe the Jags can finish ahead of the Colts this year... maybe.

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      • EmpireWF
        Giants in the Super Bowl
        • Mar 2009
        • 24082

        #18
        None of us saw Garrard in camp and if he truly was that bad, not a big deal. He wasn't going to last the season anyway since their plan was to give the reigns to the rook.


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        • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
          Highwayman
          • Feb 2009
          • 15429

          #19
          Originally posted by corbin
          Not saying Garrard is a championship QB but he's a guy that won't turn it over and keep you in games. Mediocre may be enough to get into the playoffs this season. This franchise needs to get back to winning games and see the playoffs again. With David Garrard at the helm, I fully believe the Jags would be right there with the Texans at the end. Without him- they're a 6 win team, not selling tickets, and telling the team they threw in the towel before the season even started.

          Now you're moving to Gabbert already, looks extremely raw, and most likely going to take his lumps way too early. Oh well, maybe the Jags can finish ahead of the Colts this year... maybe.
          lolwut?

          He's thrown 38 INTs in the past three seasons and fumbled the football 32 times over the same time frame.

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #20
            Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
            lolwut?

            He's thrown 38 INTs in the past three seasons and fumbled the football 32 times over the same time frame.
            It's pretty crazy how many people think so highly of Garrard.

            The guy got beat out, fair & square, by LUKE MCCOWN for his starting job.

            There isn't a single Jaguars fan on this site who misses the guy, that's really all anyone needs to know.

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            • Obst
              RIP West
              • Oct 2008
              • 4182

              #21
              Jack Del Rio made mention that the move to Gabbert doesn't change his outlook for the 2011 season, and said the team needed a spark on offense and that they think Gabbert can provide that. Gabbert also told the media he was allowed to audible when asked, a good sign that he knows the playbook.
              I don't think a Jaguars QB has been allowed to audible since Brunell.

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              • cynismus
                Decadence isn't easy
                • Feb 2009
                • 3507

                #22
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                It's pretty crazy how many people think so highly of Garrard.
                It's because he's black. Affirmative action FTL! :smugrussell:
                There is no fire like passion
                There is no shark like hatred
                There is no snare like folly
                There is no torrent like greed

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                • corbin
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1963

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                  lolwut?

                  He's thrown 38 INTs in the past three seasons and fumbled the football 32 times over the same time frame.
                  2010 - McNabb, Hasselbeck, Cutler, Peyton Manning, Chad Henne, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning threw more INT's. Fitzpatrick and Bradford threw the same amount of INT's as well.

                  2009 - He only threw 10 INT's, hardly a turnover machine.

                  2008 - Brees, Cutler, Favre, Romo, Bulger, all threw the same amount of INT's. Rodgers threw 13 as well.

                  2007 - 3 INT's

                  Once again, I'm not a David Garrard fan- even though it doesn't look as if they exist. I'm simply stating the Jaguars had a better shot at making the playoffs with Garrard instead of Gabbert/McCown combination.

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                  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                    Highwayman
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 15429

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                    It's pretty crazy how many people think so highly of Garrard.

                    The guy got beat out, fair & square, by LUKE MCCOWN for his starting job.

                    There isn't a single Jaguars fan on this site who misses the guy, that's really all anyone needs to know.
                    I really don't hate Garrard, I just think he is, what he is, which is a below average starter...never better than a Bottom 1/3rd QB...maybe he has a season that is an anamoly and you do better than 8-8, 9-7 and sneak into the playoffs, but that means he needs to have a ridiculous rare season where he doesn't turn the ball over, EVER.

                    He's just very below average, that's it.

                    McCown is even worse, but I think Garrard mailed it in in Jacksonville when they drafted Gabbert.

                    Gabbert isn't even close to ready. Honestly, he shouldn't have come out this year...I loved him as a prospect, but felt he needed one more year in college...now he's starting by week 3...you can break a QB doing shit like that, but...we'll see.

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                    • NAHSTE
                      Probably owns the site
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 22233

                      #25
                      Originally posted by corbin
                      2010 - McNabb, Hasselbeck, Cutler, Peyton Manning, Chad Henne, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning threw more INT's. Fitzpatrick and Bradford threw the same amount of INT's as well.

                      2009 - He only threw 10 INT's, hardly a turnover machine.

                      2008 - Brees, Cutler, Favre, Romo, Bulger, all threw the same amount of INT's. Rodgers threw 13 as well.

                      2007 - 3 INT's

                      Once again, I'm not a David Garrard fan- even though it doesn't look as if they exist. I'm simply stating the Jaguars had a better shot at making the playoffs with Garrard instead of Gabbert/McCown combination.




                      "Hey, Garrard doesn't throw a lot of interceptions, because these other QBs who also throw a lot of interceptions threw for more!"

                      That's like saying Americans aren't stupid because we finished ahead of Mexico in test scores. Forgetting of course that we're still like 18th down the list. Should we really be impressed that David Garrard managed to throw fewer than the 24 INTs Marc Bulger was serving up?

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                      • corbin
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1963

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NAHSTE


                        "Hey, Garrard doesn't throw a lot of interceptions, because these other QBs who also throw a lot of interceptions threw for more!"

                        That's like saying Americans aren't stupid because we finished ahead of Mexico in test scores. Forgetting of course that we're still like 18th down the list. Should we really be impressed that David Garrard managed to throw fewer than the 24 INTs Marc Bulger was serving up?
                        It's all really up to opinion on what you think "a lot" of interceptions is. 15 was a bad season, 10 and 3 though? I'd take that from my starting quarterback.

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                        • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                          Highwayman
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 15429

                          #27
                          Originally posted by corbin
                          2010 - McNabb, Hasselbeck, Cutler, Peyton Manning, Chad Henne, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning threw more INT's. Fitzpatrick and Bradford threw the same amount of INT's as well.

                          2009 - He only threw 10 INT's, hardly a turnover machine.

                          2008 - Brees, Cutler, Favre, Romo, Bulger, all threw the same amount of INT's. Rodgers threw 13 as well.

                          2007 - 3 INT's

                          Once again, I'm not a David Garrard fan- even though it doesn't look as if they exist. I'm simply stating the Jaguars had a better shot at making the playoffs with Garrard instead of Gabbert/McCown combination.
                          You're an idiot.

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                          • corbin
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1963

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                            You're an idiot.
                            It's not the popular opinion, I know that. Thanks though, I'll stand by Garrard being a better option at QB for this season instead of the raw Gabbert and LolMcCown.

                            Enjoy your 5 or 6 win season and seeing your "franchise" quarterback get destroyed this season.

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                            • cynismus
                              Decadence isn't easy
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3507

                              #29
                              Doesn't matter if Garrard was back there or not. There was no way the Jags were going to win the division or make the playoffs as a wild card.
                              There is no fire like passion
                              There is no shark like hatred
                              There is no snare like folly
                              There is no torrent like greed

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                              • Kuzzy Powers
                                Beautiful Like Moses
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 12542

                                #30
                                Lol @ calling dude an idiot for presenting some hard facts, cmon now.

                                Noone is saying Garrard is an all-world QB.. but the insinuation that McCown is on his level is just asinine.. I understand what the Jags were doing, they thought McCown would be a better stop gap then this, hes proven to be absolutely atrocious, now they have to rush their plan with Gabbert. To think they wouldnt be better off with Garrard playing out this year and Gabbert getting a year to sit is preposterous.. the kid is not ready to go into the fire, and like Larry said earlier, this can ruin guys. We'll see how it works out.. but I dont think the plan was for Gabbert to be playing by week 3.

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