Shocker: Rams to trade #2 pick

[Blick]

Chiefs need to pull the trigger on this. I don't care what it takes.

[NAHSTE]

All those free picks Atlanta handed Cleveland last year might come in handy for the Browns, hmmm.

[BigBucs]

Rams are going to score a monster haul, and if they can still manage to nab Blackmon in whatever slot they end up in, then I take back all of the bad things i've said about Mullet Head the last decade or so.

Not an impossible task. Only way I see you missing on him is if the Browns want to fuck you all over for trading the 2 to the Skins. Bucs can use a WR but I just dont see us passing on Claiborne and the Vikes passing on Kahlil.

[Guest]

I can see the Skins being more willing than anyone else to five up two first rounders and two or three additional picks to get RG3.

I'm torn about it though. On the one hand, he could be their franchise QB for the next ten years which is not good. We've come to expect them being malcontent with their signal caller (the fact Grossman beat the Giants twice this year notwithstanding).

On the other hand, them sending away a significant group of picks to St. Louis would almost certainly guarantee them being relatively shit the next couple seasons....with Eli in his prime.

Make it happen I guess. Plus, St. Louis with all these picks should be able to compete right away with SF.

I can't see them giving up that many picks. This team still has some holes that have to be addressed via the draft. I can see them giving up the first this year and a first next year, and potentially a player, but no way can they afford to give up the second and third. The offensive line needs to be addressed with those two picks.

There is still a couple different ways free agency can play out, too. The Redskins may end up with Carl Nicks, negating the need to focus much on the offensive line. Or, they could address the secondary in free agency and not need those selections.

Either way, there is no way the Redskins give up that many picks to move up. At least, I hope they don't/

[EmpireWF]

No way the Vikings pass on Khalil. No way.

But I could easily see Cleveland going for Blackmon. If they pass on him, do they go with Morris Claiborne?

If so, where does that leave Tampa? Can Reiff get into the top 5?

[BigBucs]

No way the Vikings pass on Khalil. No way.

But I could easily see Cleveland going for Blackmon. If they pass on him, do they go with Morris Claiborne?

If so, where does that leave Tampa? Can Reiff get into the top 5?

If the Browns were to take Claiborne we go Blackmon or Richardson.

[BigBucs]

Somehow posted this in the wrong thread yesterday

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I agree. Either get Manning if possible or stick with Matt Moore (he wasn't so bad was he?) and company for one more year and then pick up Barkley in the 2013 draft if they're bad enough to pick high.

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Moore was pretty damn good actually and I would be pretty content with him at the helm next year. If they get Manning, that would be fine as well, but I am more than happy with Moores performances last year.

Don't be an idiot... I'm a Panthers fan, I know Matt Moore, it's the same old story different year. He's a fucking fraud. When the ground game and defense is playing well he manages the game well enough to not lose it, give him a chance to throw at all and he will fuck you. He plays well and smart enough for the team to put faith in him and then gets a sense of entitlement like he is fucking Dan Marino all of a sudden.

2009 he seemed to rally us late in the season and played very well, 5 starts, 1,000 yds, almost 62% completion, 8 TDs, 2 Int.

Gives the Panthers hope, talk around the team that they shouldn't take Clausen, Moore is the future, we can win with him. He comes back in another 5 starts, 55% completion, 850 yards, 5 TDs and 10 Int. The guy is inconsistent and mentally fragile. Don't be ok with him, be furious that fans think he can be serviceable. Watch his complete meltdown in the 2010 opener against the Giants, I was flipping the fuck out.

No way the Vikings pass on Khalil. No way.

But I could easily see Cleveland going for Blackmon. If they pass on him, do they go with Morris Claiborne?

If so, where does that leave Tampa? Can Reiff get into the top 5?

I think Reiff could jump into top 5... and I have an odd feeling that Claiborne will be out of it.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

If the Browns were to take Claiborne we go Blackmon or Richardson.

You guys will sign Mario Manningham and most likely not be in the market for Blackmon.

[BigBucs]

You guys will sign Mario Manningham and most likely not be in the market for Blackmon.

Id be totally ok with that if we somehow landed Manningham, all I know is we need a CB desperately. Ronde may be shown the door if he doesnt retire and Aqib may be in jail next season if not let go by the new regime. Without those 2 we are the absolute worst secondary in the league, wast too far off with them. Lewis, Biggers and Mack are awful.

[Guest]

No way the Vikings pass on Khalil. No way.

But I could easily see Cleveland going for Blackmon. If they pass on him, do they go with Morris Claiborne?

If so, where does that leave Tampa? Can Reiff get into the top 5?

It all depends on the off-season right now. In about a month, when the first week of free agency is done, these conversations will have more weight. Cleveland may land Flynn and Vincent Jackson, or could trade their extra pick for DeSean Jackson, and then go corner. Or other options.

Like the Redskins, for the Browns to move anything but two firsts and a player is a stupid decision. Too many holes elsewhere, even in a quarterback driven league.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Id be totally ok with that if we somehow landed Manningham, all I know is we need a CB desperately. Ronde may be shown the door if he doesnt retire and Aqib may be in jail next season if not let go by the new regime. Without those 2 we are the absolute worst secondary in the league, wast too far off with them. Lewis, Biggers and Mack are awful.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/26/report-manningham-expected-to-land-with-bucs/

Dont be surprised to see a FA CB or two come to Tampa either, you got the money to spend and I'm sure the new regime doesn't want to feel forced to take Claiborne with that pick. Use FA to make that a BPA instead of a need.

[BigBucs]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...and-with-bucs/

Dont be surprised to see a FA CB or two come to Tampa either, you got the money to spend and I'm sure the new regime doesn't want to feel forced to take Claiborne with that pick. Use FA to make that a BPA instead of a need.

Yea, I googled Manningham to the Bucs after I read your previous post, I havent been up on our offseason plans. I totally expect to land some FA's land with uur GM, Mark Dominick, feeling the heat after cleaning house and seemingly scrapping the "build through the draft and disregard FA" approach. With you having to spend a certain amount and us having a bunch of money we really dont have a choice but to pick up some veterans. Hope we can land Brandon Carr.

[TheImmortalGoud]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...and-with-bucs/

Dont be surprised to see a FA CB or two come to Tampa either, you got the money to spend and I'm sure the new regime doesn't want to feel forced to take Claiborne with that pick. Use FA to make that a BPA instead of a need.

Tampa Bay just hired Ron Cooper, LSU's DB coach. That doesn't necessarily mean they will take Claiborne, but it probably makes it a little more likely.

[mcstl25]

This would be amazing. Please do Redskins.