Saints Defense maintained a Bounty Program

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  • Tailback U
    No substitute 4 strength.
    • Nov 2008
    • 10282

    Originally posted by jaxjaggywires
    Wow...just wow.

    In one example, your defense is just trying to win the game.
    In the next example, your defense is just trying to hurt a specific player.

    How's that for a difference?
    You win the game by attacking a player. The player you attack is a QB, RB, WR, anybody with the ball or anybody that is between you and the ball carrier.

    Attacking = hurting. Why is this so hard to understand for some of you?

    Serious question, have you ever played football? And if you did, did you play on defense? This goes for Houston, W2B, you, Empire, anyone that doesn't understand the concept of trying to fuck offensive players up by any means necessary.

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    • Houston
      Back home
      • Oct 2008
      • 21231

      Originally posted by EmpireWF
      Here it is.

      When the majority of NFL players step on the field, they do not do so with the intent to injure their opponents. They may smack the fuck out of them on certain plays and all that shit. Sure, you have some douchebag assholes like Flozell Adams, but everyone doesn't have that attitude.

      So when you have a program promoted by team officials that pays guys bonus money for PURPOSEFULLY INJURING PLAYERS, that's the problem for us.
      Exactly.

      It basically changes from "we're paying you to stop this team from getting first downs" to "we're paying you to injure this teams players".

      Why would any league support the injury of it's players?

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        Originally posted by Tailback U
        Sorry Empire, but I prefer to listen to guys like Bart Scott and Shaun Phillips over a nobody like you. You know, guys that have actually played the game.

        And your link means nothing? The Saints had a bounty program? OK thanks because we didn't fucking know that already you dipshit. You're not still understanding my argument because you're brain dead.
        Bart Scott & Shaun Phillips pontificating on how tough they are because they strap 'em up, again, is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

        If they condone bounties, well, all that means is they're wrong too.

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        • Tailback U
          No substitute 4 strength.
          • Nov 2008
          • 10282

          Originally posted by EmpireWF
          tailback, Your retarded ass wants "VIDEO PROOF" of shady shit. Who cares? The NFL investigated and found they broke rules...you know, by interviewing a bunch of people. Not watching youtube clips, einstein.
          You're a fucking moron homey. I want proof that the bounty program actually increases the chances of injuries or penalties.

          There is none. Zero. Zilch. Nada. I'm not denying that they broke rules or that there was a bounty program in place. I'm saying it doesn't increase the chances of injury.

          They didn't injure more players than teams without a bounty program, so there is no proof that a bounty program makes guys want to go out and injure players.

          Until you can prove this, stop wasting my time.

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          • Tailback U
            No substitute 4 strength.
            • Nov 2008
            • 10282

            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            Bart Scott & Shaun Phillips pontificating on how tough they are because they strap 'em up, again, is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

            If they condone bounties, well, all that means is they're wrong too.
            Nobody is condoning bounties.

            Are all of you fucking retarded?

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            • Houston
              Back home
              • Oct 2008
              • 21231

              Originally posted by Tailback U
              Serious question, have you ever played football? And if you did, did you play on defense? This goes for Houston, W2B, you, Empire, anyone that doesn't understand the concept of trying to fuck offensive players up by any means necessary.
              Yes I played 5A Texas Football for a top ranked team in the state. You on the other hand, apparently played against schools so bad that girls were able to step on the field :gayrod:

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              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26142

                Originally posted by EmpireWF
                tailback, Your retarded ass wants "VIDEO PROOF" of shady shit. Who cares? The NFL investigated and found they broke rules...you know, by interviewing a bunch of people. Not watching youtube clips, einstein.
                Quite honestly, it doesn't matter if the Saints ever committed dirty hits or not. This is where people like bucky and Tailback are being dense. Once they were offered money for injury, it became a deplorable, inexcusable act that the league can not tolerate.

                There is no other argument. If you don't agree with the above, you are wrong.

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  Originally posted by Tailback U
                  Nobody is condoning bounties.

                  Are all of you fucking retarded?
                  THEN WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THOSE TWO PLAYERS HAVE TO SAY???

                  Nobody cares about hard hitting football in relation to this topic. It. Doesn't. Matter. Dummy.

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                  • bucky
                    #50? WTF?
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 5408

                    Originally posted by Tailback U
                    Please show me some evidence of the Saints intent to injure under the bounty program.

                    Please, any, Just one fucking clip. Just one quote. Something. Anything.

                    Can you do this? No. So shut up already. All of you. :olhoss:
                    A credible source that implicates the Saints means a great deal. I don't think you can prove intent through highlights, but credible sources with collaborating statements would be huge. If it's proven, "incentive to injure", the league should do something.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      Originally posted by bucky
                      A credible source that implicates the Saints means a great deal. I don't think you can prove intent through highlights, but credible sources with collaborating statements would be huge. If it's proven, "incentive to injure", the league should do something.
                      cute

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                      • bucky
                        #50? WTF?
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 5408

                        Originally posted by Trm
                        Roman Harper and Malcom Jenkins. :dtrain:

                        Steve Smith gets into fight after TD Catch - YouTube
                        I don't think clips are going to do it. I think you would need multiple credible sources that the clips could be used to back up there statements.

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          If we know bounties were offered, then every single questionable or flat out illegal hit the Saints made for three years comes into question. I know some of you won't like that, since i'm a pussy and you're big tough football men and all, but it's the truth.

                          And that is my point, that once bounties are on the table, legality of the hits no longer matter.

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                          • bucky
                            #50? WTF?
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 5408

                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            because bucky and Tailback aren't very bright
                            Cute and incorrect. I'm not the one confusing hard hits and intent to injure. And what are you doing thanking a post? Your less fun when you do that.

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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              Originally posted by bucky
                              Cute and incorrect. I'm not the one confusing hard hits and intent to injure. And what are you doing thanking a post? Your less fun when you do that.
                              no confusion here

                              the difference is irrelevant

                              all that matters is bounties were offered

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                              • Tailback U
                                No substitute 4 strength.
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10282

                                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                                THEN WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THOSE TWO PLAYERS HAVE TO SAY???

                                Nobody cares about hard hitting football in relation to this topic. It. Doesn't. Matter. Dummy.
                                Because they are saying that removing the bounty programs isn't going to change anything.

                                What is so hard to understand? I'm not saying they should be allowed or that they are right. Removing them isn't going to change a damn thing. That's what the players are saying. That is what I'm saying. You can argue with me about this to the grave but you'll never be right because you can't prove me wrong.

                                Dummy.

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