Report: Brandon Marshall traded to the Bears

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  • ryne candy
    Aggie C/O '01
    • Feb 2009
    • 4355

    #91
    Originally posted by ralaw
    I highly doubt he'll be suspended for a year for this.....at most 4-6 games. Either way when he returns he's still better than anything the Bears already had, which is the point. Rumors are that when Marshall and his wife were trying to leave his wife was hit in the face with a bottle and he reacted. I really can't fault him for that, but given his history I don't even understand why he's even in the club at 4am. Marshall is a good guy, but he lacks judgement.
    and thats the sad part....we can name HOF Bears RB but I couldn't name one "good" WR in its past.

    and I'm sure the Bears know about the incident, if they didn't, I'm sure they could get the trade voided.

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #92
      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
      Oh, Marshall isn't a headache?
      For the reading impaired...

      I never said Marshall wasn't.


      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
      And I guess we're pretending that Lloyd has been playing with fantastic QB's over the same period
      He played with Orton in a pass happy inflated statistical offense.

      Please quit playing dense. You're better than this.

      at bringing up Tebow because as soon as Tebow got the job Lloyd wanted out and Denver was more than happy to see him go.

      They both are headaches/clowns but at least Marshall consistantly puts up numbers meanwhile Llyod floats around the NFL as a third tier WR living off one flukey successful season.



      Originally posted by nwfisch
      Marshall is one of three WRs in the past 5 seasons to have 1000 yards in each season.
      Is Brandon Llyod one of the other ones?

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      • ralaw
        Posts too much
        • Feb 2009
        • 6663

        #93
        Originally posted by ryne candy
        and thats the sad part....we can name HOF Bears RB but I couldn't name one "good" WR in its past.

        and I'm sure the Bears know about the incident, if they didn't, I'm sure they could get the trade voided.
        Bears knew of Marshall incident before trade

        The Chicago Bears were aware of a weekend incident involving Brandon Marshall before they acquired the wide receiver in a trade with the Miami Dolphins, the team said Wednesday.

        In a statement from general manager Phil Emery, the Bears said they were fully aware that Marshall was accused of punching a woman in the face outside a New York club, an incident police are investigating.

        "Both the Bears and Dolphins were aware of what occurred over the weekend,” Emery said in the statement. “We decided to move forward with the trade. We have high expectations for Brandon as a Bear.”

        The Bears traded two third-round draft picks for Marshall, who has three years remaining on his contract.

        Marshall was involved peripherally in an incident at a club in which his wife was hit with a bottle during an altercation neither of them was part of, according to a statement from Marshall's attorney, Harvey Steinberg. He said Marshall took his wife to a hospital where she was treated for "serious injuries" and Marshall hopes to "assist authorities" regarding the matter.

        However, the New York Post reported that the woman, Christin Myles, filed a police report saying that during the fracas Marshall hit her in the left eye, blackening it.

        Marshall has a long list of off-field issues, and has twice been arrested for suspicion of domestic violence. Marshall was involved in a fight at a Denver night club that eventually sparked a shooting that killed former Denver Broncos teammate Darrent Williams.

        The NFL no doubt will look into the latest matter. Steinberg has denied any wrongdoing on the part of his client.


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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #94
          LOL at Marshall "slugging a woman in the eye" to the point of it being blackened and not getting arrested for it.



          Fishy story is fishy

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          • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
            Highwayman
            • Feb 2009
            • 15429

            #95
            Personally, I think Brandon Marshall is incredibly overrated by most. He's not a top tier WR. When he's got a good QB throwing to him like Cutler...sure...he'll look good by proxy, but overall...he's good, but nothing special. They Dolphins traded two 2nds for him, they had him for two very pedestrian years, and flipped him for two 3rds...overall, not a bad return on an obviously depreciated asset.

            He's dropped 23 passes in the past two seasons and has a total of 9 touchdowns.

            Dat ain't good, ya'll.

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            • ralaw
              Posts too much
              • Feb 2009
              • 6663

              #96
              Marshall is on that second tier level of WRs in the league.....I don't hear anyone proclaiming him to be Larry Fitzgterald or Andre Johnson. However, the truth is the past 2 season he's had Chad Henne and Matt Moore as his QB and his put up decent numbers. I don't get people's issue....drops are an overrated stat as they don't take into account targets, ball placement, etc. It was obvious when he played with Cutler he had better days, as Cutler is a better QB, so it is reasonable to expect him to play better than what he did in Miami. Outside of Larry Fitzgerald who is elite I don't see many WRs putting up All-pro numbers with mediocre QB's.

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              • shag773
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 2721

                #97
                I thought it was a fair trade, I don't think the Dolphins got fleeced. The Dolphins overpaid to get him. The new regime in Miami didn't want him, and I think they got a good return considering his numbers the last two years.

                However, I'm not a big Brandon Marshall guy. This guy can't seem to keep his hands off of women, which is going to get him booted from the league. If I was running an NFL team, I wouldn't trade a box of jock straps for this nut.

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                • nwfisch
                  No longer a noob
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1365

                  #98
                  Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                  Personally, I think Brandon Marshall is incredibly overrated by most. He's not a top tier WR. When he's got a good QB throwing to him like Cutler...sure...he'll look good by proxy, but overall...he's good, but nothing special. They Dolphins traded two 2nds for him, they had him for two very pedestrian years, and flipped him for two 3rds...overall, not a bad return on an obviously depreciated asset.

                  He's dropped 23 passes in the past two seasons and has a total of 9 touchdowns.

                  Dat ain't good, ya'll.
                  3 1000 yard seasons QBed by the likes of Matt Moore, Chad Henne, and Kyle Orton :gayrod:

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #99
                    Originally posted by glenwillett
                    If they use him on bubble screens and allow him to make plays after the catch he'll be great because that's what he does well..

                    If they plan is to use him as a downfield guy he will go down in flames because that's just not what he does, which is shocking because he's so huge.

                    Hopefully Mike Tice or whomever is calling the plays on offense is smart enough to realize this.
                    Jeremy Bates is the passing game coordinator.

                    They know what Marshall can and can't do.

                    I think you're underselling Marshall as a down the field guy a bit. He's not Randy Moss but he can go up and get it if need be he's just not spectacular/great at it and it shouldn't be his primary function in the offense.

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                    • ralaw
                      Posts too much
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 6663

                      Originally posted by glenwillett
                      Pac-Man didn't miss any time before Goodell sat him for the year and had only been in the league for two seasons at the time. This is now six years of almost annual incidents involving Marshall in untoward situations, most surrounding the same circumstances, and the second time a team has gotten rid of him because they are tired of dealing with him.

                      If this turns out to be even 80% Marshall's fault and he did hit the woman, what happened to his wife notwithstanding, I think there's a very real chance he gets the same deal as Jones with the year long suspension with the availability of a review after 10 games.
                      I disagree for 2 reasons. Pac-Man's incidents were way more publicized and it also was the time when Goodell had just came on the scene with his hard stance suspension, player conduct policy, so he had to lower the boom a bit to make an example out of Pac-Man. If he was suspended for the year I'd be surprised.....especially considering the Bears knew before the trade (I'm sure they put some calls to NFL offices).

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                      • leaffan
                        Colton Orr Fan
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11082

                        Awesome thread.

                        Bears fans think he is the next coming saviour for there offense and dolphins fans are trashing him to no end calling him a bust.

                        This is normal for most players but the level it has gone to in this thread is fantastic for us outsiders wanting laughs.


                        Have the bears fixed their shit Oline yet? Marshall won't be getting any passes if cutlulz is still on the ground every play.

                        Leafs offseason training!

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                        • FirstTimer
                          Freeman Error

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 18729

                          Originally posted by leaffan
                          Awesome thread.

                          Bears fans think he is the next coming saviour for there offense and dolphins fans are trashing him to no end calling him a bust.

                          This is normal for most players but the level it has gone to in this thread is fantastic for us outsiders wanting laughs.


                          Have the bears fixed their shit Oline yet? Marshall won't be getting any passes if cutlulz is still on the ground every play.

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                          • ralaw
                            Posts too much
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 6663

                            Originally posted by leaffan
                            Awesome thread.

                            Bears fans think he is the next coming saviour for there offense and dolphins fans are trashing him to no end calling him a bust.

                            This is normal for most players but the level it has gone to in this thread is fantastic for us outsiders wanting laughs.


                            Have the bears fixed their shit Oline yet? Marshall won't be getting any passes if cutlulz is still on the ground every play.
                            I don't see Bears fans proclaiming much other than what it is, which is a real WR that actually has an impact on the game. TBH I can't fault them......much like the Ravens when Boldin came on the scene I was elated. When your best WR over the past few season has been a converted CB from college Marshall is a godsend.

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                            • nwfisch
                              No longer a noob
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1365

                              Originally posted by leaffan
                              Awesome thread.

                              Bears fans think he is the next coming saviour for there offense and dolphins fans are trashing him to no end calling him a bust.

                              This is normal for most players but the level it has gone to in this thread is fantastic for us outsiders wanting laughs.


                              Have the bears fixed their shit Oline yet? Marshall won't be getting any passes if cutlulz is still on the ground every play.
                              No one said Marshall's a savior brah. Learn how to spell. :wildthing:

                              He's better than Johnny Knox, Earl Bennett, Devin Hester, and Roy Williams.

                              Heck he's even better than Brandon Lloyd. :dtrain:

                              I guess by your logic, a team shouldn't upgrade a position of need until one unit is upgraded first. :gayrod:

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                              • Warner2BruceTD
                                2011 Poster Of The Year
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 26142

                                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                                LOL at Marshall "slugging a woman in the eye" to the point of it being blackened and not getting arrested for it.



                                Fishy story is fishy
                                Lol, look at FT going full homer already and white knighting this retard.

                                Get used to it, it won't be the last time. The guy is a nut.

                                Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                                Personally, I think Brandon Marshall is incredibly overrated by most. He's not a top tier WR. When he's got a good QB throwing to him like Cutler...sure...he'll look good by proxy, but overall...he's good, but nothing special. They Dolphins traded two 2nds for him, they had him for two very pedestrian years, and flipped him for two 3rds...overall, not a bad return on an obviously depreciated asset.

                                He's dropped 23 passes in the past two seasons and has a total of 9 touchdowns.

                                Dat ain't good, ya'll.
                                Boom.


                                Originally posted by shag773
                                I thought it was a fair trade, I don't think the Dolphins got fleeced. The Dolphins overpaid to get him. The new regime in Miami didn't want him, and I think they got a good return considering his numbers the last two years.

                                However, I'm not a big Brandon Marshall guy. This guy can't seem to keep his hands off of women, which is going to get him booted from the league. If I was running an NFL team, I wouldn't trade a box of jock straps for this nut.
                                Boom.

                                Finally some people who get it.

                                Look, I understand why Bears fans are happy, but this is a player who has been criminally overrated since he was on Denver catching 100 balls per season (80 of which were likely 5-yard outs and bubble screens, like that joke of a 20-catch game). Still a good player, but not a great player, and like it or not, at or near the same level as some of the other recently dealt WR's. So to get two premium draft choices for the guy, even before we consider his immense baggage, is more than fair, and we obviously have a bunch of Madden GM's in this thread who have no concept of the worthless trade value of NFL WR's. Clearly the Bears are gambling, here.

                                Comparing him directly to Lloyd or Holmes or whoever and breaking down careers is missing the point. Nobody cares what Lloyd or Marshall did four years ago. Ancient history to a GM. The recent past shows that the two players are right around he same tier as players (and c'mon, bringing up Marshall's QB's, considering the collection of stiffs Lloyd has played with? Be fair). Plus, Marshall is the kind of guy who looks much better in the boxscore, and not quite as good when you watch him play.

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