Jets looking to part ways with Sanchez and Tebow

[Warner2BruceTD]

No way do I want Tebow at 1st and 9 at the goal line. The field is so compact at that point and you really don't need to worry much about Tebow passing. You don't take Brady out. With Brady you have the threat of a run (with running back) AND the threat of a pass. Tebow, you have the threat of a run with an occasional lucky pass. Tebow would have so much more value being more involved in the offense at another position.

It's as if you've never seen Tebow play.

He's most dangerous in the red zone.

Nobody is suggesting Brady should be coming out of the game in favor of Tebow for anything more than a small handful of plays for the purpose of deception or a change of pace. We aren't talking entire series here or every goal line snap.

[JeremyHight]

I could see a team getting Sanchez, but with that contract, there isn't a chance in hell any team trades for him. If he is cut, he'll be signed somewhere to backup.

[Glenbino]

No way do I want Tebow at 1st and 9 at the goal line. The field is so compact at that point and you really don't need to worry much about Tebow passing. You don't take Brady out. With Brady you have the threat of a run (with running back) AND the threat of a pass. Tebow, you have the threat of a run with an occasional lucky pass. Tebow would have so much more value being more involved in the offense at another position.

Yeah he's been awesome when the Jets and Broncos used him in the receiving game... not like those skills take a career to learn or anything

And he worked just fine in the RZ for Denver, it was him getting us there that was the hard part.

You put Tebow in the shotgun on first and it makes you prepare for a QB run, which opens up running lanes via the read option, or a short dump pass to one of two of the best TEs in the league, a luxury Tebow never had in Denver. If nothing is open you tell him to just throw it OOB..

Belechik and McDaniels aren't beyond expanding the offense and like I said before BOTH liked Tebow before the draft for some reason.

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[Warner2BruceTD]

Only if he agrees to play another positions and NOT QB. Tebow should learn how to be a QB or agree to move to another position. If Tebow goes to NE, they won't be taking out Brady and putting in Tebow, even for just the Red Zone. Tebow will be taking hand offs or catching passes from Brady.

How many 4th and 1's do you normally have in a game. Beli won't be taking Brady out at QB and putting in Tebow EXCEPT for maybe this one rare occurrence. Tebow's not a QB. He needs to agree to a position change and he'll end up being a lot more involved. I think he's a good person, very good athlete, but shit QB. The guy is a Football player, not a QB. Tebow could be very effective in the NFL if he wasn't so adamant about being a QB.

Not at QB.

Tebow "has agreed" to play many positions. He's lined up at TE and plays special teams with no complaint. He doesn't need to drop playing QB and "learn" anything, because his value is tied to the fact that he brings a different element to the QB position. Why would you take a special player who can do specialized things from one spot, and make him a full time mediocre TE or FB? I'd rather just have a real TE or FB.

OMG YOU CANT PLAY TEBOW AT QB

Why not? For a few plays per game, where he can do things other guys can't? We're not talking about dropping him back 25 times and asking him to throw 20 yard timing patterns.

[jms493]

Tebow was a great College Athlete....that is where it ends.

[ram29jackson]

...what a bunch of monkeys you guys are LOL

you bitch about media over doing the coverage of a sub par QB in Tebow.

And yet, what has this thread become ? A Tebow is/isnt, does/doesnt thread. You are no different or special then the rest of the American consumption lemmings LOL

[NAHSTE]

Not happening. Besides, he's more dangerous on 4th and 1 than Tebow would ever be.

True. Nobody overthrows Danny Woodhead on 4th and 1 like the GOAT, amirite?

[ram29jackson]

Tebow was a great College Athlete....that is where it ends.

obviously not, the story continues and so does his career

[bucky]

Why not? For a few plays per game, where he can do things other guys can't? We're not talking about dropping him back 25 times and asking him to throw 20 yard timing patterns.

There you go. A few plays per game. He's not a QB. Can he play on special teams? He has to do more than just a few plays per game to take up a roster spot. Can he play on special teams? Can he at least backup at FB, H-Back or TE? You have to justify the roster spot. He has to do more than just be a few plays per game QB. If he can do more, you can justify the Roster spot, and he could effectively be the third QB, what most teams usually have as the emergency QB. An emergency QB on the active roster. That would be a luxury.

But he is not an effective, every down QB. I like Tebow. I'd like to see him utilized more. Just not behind center, except for a change of pace, read option, wildcat kind of play.

At times you seem to say he can play QB and at other times you seem to say only in very specialized situations. I'm just not sure if our opinions on Tebow are far off or not.

[bucky]

You put Tebow in the shotgun on first and it makes you prepare for a QB run, which opens up running lanes via the read option, or a short dump pass to one of two of the best TEs in the league, a luxury Tebow never had in Denver. If nothing is open you tell him to just throw it OOB..

Windows are a lot smaller in the Red Zone. I don't have much faith in Tebow completing a pass. Do respect his running down their.

[Warner2BruceTD]

There you go. A few plays per game. He's not a QB. Can he play on special teams? He has to do more than just a few plays per game to take up a roster spot. Can he play on special teams? Can he at least backup at FB, H-Back or TE? You have to justify the roster spot. He has to do more than just be a few plays per game QB. If he can do more, you can justify the Roster spot, and he could effectively be the third QB, what most teams usually have as the emergency QB. An emergency QB on the active roster. That would be a luxury.

But he is not an effective, every down QB. I like Tebow. I'd like to see him utilized more. Just not behind center, except for a change of pace, read option, wildcat kind of play.

At times you seem to say he can play QB and at other times you seem to say only in very specialized situations. I'm just not sure if our opinions on Tebow are far off or not.

I've said repeatedly that I don't think he's a long term option as starter. My stance all along is that he's a change of pace/specialty player/backup.

I don't understand this point you keep making that Tebow has to learn other positions to justify a roster spot. First of all, he has learned other positions. Secondly, what other backup QB's learn other positions to justify a roster spot? You say Tebow has to do more to justify having him, but there isn't another backup QB in the league who doesn anything other than wear a backwards hat and stand next to the coach.

Tebow, when utilized properly, is the most useful backup QB in the league, because he can play in specialized situations.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Windows are a lot smaller in the Red Zone. I don't have much faith in Tebow completing a pass. Do respect his running down their.

I'll ask again. Have you ever seen Tebow play? I'm being serious. Not highlights.

At Florida, and in Denver, he was always extremely dangerous in the red zone. It's probably his greatest strength, aside from short yardage. He gets the ball in the end zone with very good efficiency.

[Tailback U]

Lol again at the ball being in tebows hands over Brady's. you're out of your mind if you think Brady is going to be ok with that or if the pats would actually do that.

Not to mention why the hell would tebow want to be designated 4th and 1 guy his whole career. The whole idea is stupid. Sorry w2b.

[Glenbino]

Lol again at the ball being in tebows hands over Brady's. you're out of your mind if you think Brady is going to be ok with that or if the pats would actually do that.

Not to mention why the hell would tebow want to be designated 4th and 1 guy his whole career. The whole idea is stupid. Sorry w2b.

Just gonna leave this right here..

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=statsinfo&id=40449

Tebow also showed in 2011 he can finish drives. In 70 red zone plays with Tebow at quarterback last season the Broncos scored 20 touchdowns. That was the highest TD percentage (28.6) as any quarterback with as many plays over the past two seasons

Get him in the hands of somoene who can actually run a sophisticated NFL offense and away from that caveman Tony Sporano and he's a weapon... the eye test bears it out and so do the numbers.

And as far as Brady is concerned he's not going to have to worry about Tebow ever taking his job or the fans ever clamoring for it. He's just got another weapon to help the Pats win games. It never has seemed to bother him in the past, I don't see why it would now.

Plus if anyone can sell him on the idea its Belechik and McDaniels.

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[Glenbino]

Windows are a lot smaller in the Red Zone. I don't have much faith in Tebow completing a pass. Do respect his running down their.

Tebow creates windows when he draws defenders in as he nears the LOS. Seen it happen plenty of times. LBs and DBs leave coverage assignments much quicker in the RZ because obviously a QB run for 5 is much more damaging there than at midfield.

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