Johnny Manziel Wowing Them at Manning Camp

[G-men]

I called Thomas Jones disastrous 2011 and career end after but still got shit for saying it at the time by everyone. But I was right, it was never brought up again and no one ever ate crow. I also said Vincent Jackson was better than Moss in early 2010 and that Moss was done as an elite receiver. Very long thread ensued and I got a ton of shit for it but guess what, I was exactly right. 2 seasons of less than 500 yards and one season where he sat out entirely while Jackson did nothing but play tremendously well.

This is the equivalent of Rams boasting about picking the Giants to win the Super Bowl with four teams left. You picked a 27 year old WR to be better than a 35 year old one with a terrible work ethic? Good work.

[jeffx]

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9537999/otl-ncaa-investigating-johnny-manziel-profiting-autographs

Now the NCAA is investigating this kid....

[strahanfan92]

[FedEx227]

Making money off your talent?

NOT ON THE NCAA'S WATCH!

/cashes billion dollar television contract check

[Argath]

Please post definitions of the words "amateur" and "professional" and then continue your argument.

[NAHSTE]

NCAA rulebook:

Who is making money off of your talents? Us? Good. You? Bad.

[Senser81]

Making money off your talent?

NOT ON THE NCAA'S WATCH!

/cashes billion dollar television contract check

Its actually kind of funny in that Manziel cannot even sign his own name without the NCAA stepping in and claiming jurisdiction...I hope Manziel or some athlete takes the NCAA to court. If there is some type of "scholar-athlete" NCAA agreement that a player is forced to sign, I would like to see that challenged in the courts, too.

It would be like attending Texas A&M as a student, and while in college you patent some type of invention, and the NCAA steps in and says they get to take whatever money you make from your invention. The whole situation is retarded.

[JimLeavy59]

"But they get a education"- NCAA shill

[NAHSTE]

It would be like attending Texas A&M as a student, and while in college you patent some type of invention, and the NCAA steps in and says they get to take whatever money you make from your invention. The whole situation is retarded.

[jeffx]

It would be like attending Texas A&M as a student, and while in college you patent some type of invention, and the NCAA steps in and says they get to take whatever money you make from your invention. The whole situation is retarded.

Refresh my memory....didn't something like this happen to Greg Anthony? When he was in college, didn't he start some kind of business, and the NCAA said no?

[jeffx]

"But they get a education"- NCAA shill

((cough))Dick Vitale((cough))

[Glenbino]

If I'm a school in the Pac 12, SEC, B1G, ACC or Big 12 then I'd be giving serious thought of trying to get out from under the NCAA umbrella.

There's no reason for these school's to have to play by the same rules as schools with a fraction of the budget especially when they have to deal with a much larger microscope on their programs despite being responsible for keeping the entire NCAA model afloat financially.

[NAHSTE]

If I'm a school in the Pac 12, SEC, B1G, ACC or Big 12 then I'd be giving serious thought of trying to get out from under the NCAA umbrella.

They already are. Mike Slive's comments at SEC Media Day a few weeks back were almost all slanted towards eventual sec-ession. "There's gotta be a better way" was the sentiment.

I think a Big 12 school president recently made similar comments. D1 football (and basketball) needs to move away from the non-revenue sports, because there's such a gulf between their objectives, incentives and missions now.

[ram29jackson]

This is the equivalent of Rams boasting about picking the Giants to win the Super Bowl with four teams left. You picked a 27 year old WR to be better than a 35 year old one with a terrible work ethic? Good work.

I picked it with 8 teams left. which is more and better then anyone can say for themselves here.
how can you make fun of it ? I actually did what all of you losers claim you do. I have proof. I did it twice. I am therefore superior.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

A lot of this mess with the NCAA and the guise of "amateur athletics" is just as much professional sports (in this case, the NFL). There is no viable alternative at this point other than to change the NCAA...which it needs...but there are too many damn moving parts it makes progress very slow. The NBA has at least avenues to enter professional ball...you can go overseas and play...you can play in the NBADL. Hockey has the ability to go play professionally or in the minor leagues or overseas or in college. Baseball, similarly...you can start off in the minors or go play college baseball. They have options. Football has NONE. ZERO.

As is, the NCAA needs to change up their idea of what amateur is...their definition is archaic. It is 2013...if a 19 year old can make money by doing something legal, I don't understand why the NCAA would forbid him from doing it.

If Johnny Manziel wants to acquire 1,000 8x10's, sign them, and sell them on ebay, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to use his face to star in a local car dealership commercial I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to copyright the name "Johnny Football" and sell T-Shirts with it, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed.

Now, should these transactions he monitored closely and strong accounting be done on each to make sure there is no dirty dealing? Yes. But restricting someone from making an income is some real commy bullshit.